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Fri, 16 December 2011 10:05  |
JP Winger
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Hi,
After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it was twisted and was in a hurry.
I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the original manual.
Thanks!
JP
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153182 is a reply to message #153180] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 10:24  |
GeorgeRud
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Pretty much the same procedure. Loosen the bolts on the compressor, move it inward, replace the belt.
Use something to pry the AC compressor back outwards to take the slack out of the belt, and tighten the belt.
If you're up north and the weather is cold, you can run without the belt untill you need the AC once again. I hate working outside in the cold weather!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153188 is a reply to message #153182] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 11:19 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Sometimes that AC compressor can be a bugger to swing over. I usually forget to loosen one of the bolts or not loosen it enough. Also, on my coach the recommended belt is always tight and I have to work hard to get it over the pulley. I swear that the next time I will get one 1" longer but when the time comes I always forget. Thankfully it doesn't come up for replacement very often.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153194 is a reply to message #153180] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 12:22 |
Ken Henderson
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JP,
One caution I don't think anyone has mentioned: Don't do like I too
frequently do: I tighten the adjusting bolt, retest the tension, and then,
relieved, close things up and put my tools away. WITHOUT retightening the
pivot bolts, which are just as important!
While you're installing the A/C belt, go back and recheck all the bolts on
the alternator and PS pump -- chances are those belts may need retightening
now anyway. And don't do my other dumb trick -- try to adjust without
loosening the pivots.
Ken H.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, JP Winger wrote:
> After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and
> install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it
> was twisted and was in a hurry.
>
> I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference
> diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the
> original manual.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153206 is a reply to message #153194] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 14:41 |
JP Winger
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Hi,
Thanks all, working at it 3 bolts right? 2 at each end and one underneath. I loosened it but can't get the belt over, really tight. Hope I got the right one! Any tricks, have tried I've the AC sheath which is really hard to access, and have tried from underneath trying to get it over the crank ( or is the bottom one the water pump?) sheath.
Regards,
JP
John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidalocations@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> JP,
>
> One caution I don't think anyone has mentioned: Don't do like I too
> frequently do: I tighten the adjusting bolt, retest the tension, and then,
> relieved, close things up and put my tools away. WITHOUT retightening the
> pivot bolts, which are just as important!
> While you're installing the A/C belt, go back and recheck all the bolts on
> the alternator and PS pump -- chances are those belts may need retightening
> now anyway. And don't do my other dumb trick -- try to adjust without
> loosening the pivots.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, JP Winger wrote:
>
>
>> After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and
>> install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it
>> was twisted and was in a hurry.
>>
>> I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference
>> diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the
>> original manual.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153207 is a reply to message #153206] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 15:00 |
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I have a dayco? 15605DR Drive Right belt from pep boys, Larry Davick pulled the number for me off Gene's site whatever that is. Can't see how I can get it on, trying to pry it etc, presume I can only loosen the AC?! And it's as far as it will go.
Jp
> Gene's site shows Dayco 15605 for AC
> Larry Davick
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On Dec 16, 2011, at 15:41, JP Winger <lavidalocations@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks all, working at it 3 bolts right? 2 at each end and one underneath. I loosened it but can't get the belt over, really tight. Hope I got the right one! Any tricks, have tried I've the AC sheath which is really hard to access, and have tried from underneath trying to get it over the crank ( or is the bottom one the water pump?) sheath.
> Regards,
> JP
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidalocations@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> JP,
>>
>> One caution I don't think anyone has mentioned: Don't do like I too
>> frequently do: I tighten the adjusting bolt, retest the tension, and then,
>> relieved, close things up and put my tools away. WITHOUT retightening the
>> pivot bolts, which are just as important!
>> While you're installing the A/C belt, go back and recheck all the bolts on
>> the alternator and PS pump -- chances are those belts may need retightening
>> now anyway. And don't do my other dumb trick -- try to adjust without
>> loosening the pivots.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, JP Winger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and
>>> install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it
>>> was twisted and was in a hurry.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference
>>> diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the
>>> original manual.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153208 is a reply to message #153207] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 15:28 |
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JP,
I don't know if this is of any help, or not, but look at this drawing from the manual. It shows all the bolts and torque settings. The bolts in the back were not obvious to me, and I struggled just as you are with the beast.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/1844/AC_Diagram.jpg>
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "JP Winger" <lavidalocations@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:00:37 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
I have a dayco? 15605DR Drive Right belt from pep boys, Larry Davick pulled the number for me off Gene's site whatever that is. Can't see how I can get it on, trying to pry it etc, presume I can only loosen the AC?! And it's as far as it will go.
Jp
> Gene's site shows Dayco 15605 for AC
> Larry Davick
John-Paul Winger skype:lavidalocations
US+1 310 9231126 NZ+64 21 997919
On Dec 16, 2011, at 15:41, JP Winger <lavidalocations@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks all, working at it 3 bolts right? 2 at each end and one underneath. I loosened it but can't get the belt over, really tight. Hope I got the right one! Any tricks, have tried I've the AC sheath which is really hard to access, and have tried from underneath trying to get it over the crank ( or is the bottom one the water pump?) sheath.
> Regards,
> JP
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidalocations@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> JP,
>>
>> One caution I don't think anyone has mentioned: Don't do like I too
>> frequently do: I tighten the adjusting bolt, retest the tension, and then,
>> relieved, close things up and put my tools away. WITHOUT retightening the
>> pivot bolts, which are just as important!
>> While you're installing the A/C belt, go back and recheck all the bolts on
>> the alternator and PS pump -- chances are those belts may need retightening
>> now anyway. And don't do my other dumb trick -- try to adjust without
>> loosening the pivots.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, JP Winger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and
>>> install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it
>>> was twisted and was in a hurry.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference
>>> diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the
>>> original manual.
>>>
>>>
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Fri, 16 December 2011 15:30 |
George DV
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JP
The a/c belt is the hardest to fit..
It takes a 60+ inch belt and with the part number you cite, looks like
it is correct. one.
One trick you might try is>>>> fit the belt on lower pulley[crank ] and
a/c pulley as much as you can and WITH FINGERS OUT OF THE WAY, jog the
engine using the key switch.
Just a momentary jog.
May take a second or third try
Belt will either slip on or off.
BE CAREFUL
It works
George DV
1976 Glenbrook
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12/16/2011 12:41 PM, JP Winger wrote:ay try is
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> Hi,
> Thanks all, working at it 3 bolts right? 2 at each end and one underneath. I loosened it but can't get the belt over, really tight. Hope I got the right one! Any tricks, have tried I've the AC sheath which is really hard to access, and have tried from underneath trying to get it over tengine he crank ( or is the bottom one the water pump?) sheath.
> Regards,
> JP
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidalocations@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Ken Henderson<hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> um
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153210 is a reply to message #153207] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 15:32 |
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oops.
On re-reading your note - here is a better answer.
The only adjustment to the A/C Belt comes from the compressor and moving it is something I've done with a very wide pry-bar (but gently).
And Gene's site is <www.gmcmotorhome.info>
and the diagram of the compressor is here:
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/uploads/1844/AC_Diagram.jpg>
< http://tinyurl.com/879ye8p>
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
----- Original Message -----
From: "JP Winger" <lavidalocations@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 1:00:37 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
I have a dayco? 15605DR Drive Right belt from pep boys, Larry Davick pulled the number for me off Gene's site whatever that is. Can't see how I can get it on, trying to pry it etc, presume I can only loosen the AC?! And it's as far as it will go.
Jp
> Gene's site shows Dayco 15605 for AC
> Larry Davick
John-Paul Winger skype:lavidalocations
US+1 310 9231126 NZ+64 21 997919
On Dec 16, 2011, at 15:41, JP Winger <lavidalocations@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks all, working at it 3 bolts right? 2 at each end and one underneath. I loosened it but can't get the belt over, really tight. Hope I got the right one! Any tricks, have tried I've the AC sheath which is really hard to access, and have tried from underneath trying to get it over the crank ( or is the bottom one the water pump?) sheath.
> Regards,
> JP
>
> John-Paul Winger / US+1 310 9231126 / NZ+64 21 997919 / lavidalocations@gmail.com / Skype: lavidalocations
>
> On Dec 16, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> JP,
>>
>> One caution I don't think anyone has mentioned: Don't do like I too
>> frequently do: I tighten the adjusting bolt, retest the tension, and then,
>> relieved, close things up and put my tools away. WITHOUT retightening the
>> pivot bolts, which are just as important!
>> While you're installing the A/C belt, go back and recheck all the bolts on
>> the alternator and PS pump -- chances are those belts may need retightening
>> now anyway. And don't do my other dumb trick -- try to adjust without
>> loosening the pivots.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, JP Winger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> After tackling a shredded Alt belt in Manhattan I'm about to try and
>>> install the AC belt I picked up last night. I cut the previous one as it
>>> was twisted and was in a hurry.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty green so does anyone have any tips, advice or reference
>>> diagrams that may help, I couldn't find anything on changing belts in the
>>> original manual.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153223 is a reply to message #153221] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 20:21 |
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Same here! I've often wondered if I could cut a notch in the cowl just enough to slide a belt through, but whenever I look at it I come away with the thought that it's impossible.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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From: "Matt Colie" <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
I only just now figured out why I never have any problem getting new belts on......
My fan is so tight in the shroud that I can't get a belt past the fan. So, I have to set the fan drive loose from the water pump shaft (and set it carefully against the radiator). Then, I remove, replace and route all the belts and remount the fan drive. Then I get to set the belt tension.
It is also nice that I have never had to adjust the power steering pump belt since I put the dual belt on the alternator.
Matt
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SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153226 is a reply to message #153223] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 20:54 |
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| ljdavick wrote on Fri, 16 December 2011 21:21 |
Same here! I've often wondered if I could cut a notch in the cowl just enough to slide a belt through, but whenever I look at it I come away with the thought that it's impossible.
Larry Davick
From: "Matt Colie"
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 6:13:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
I only just now figured out why I never have any problem getting new belts on......
My fan is so tight in the shroud that I can't get a belt past the fan. So, I have to set the fan drive loose from the water pump shaft (and set it carefully against the radiator). Then, I remove, replace and route all the belts and remount the fan drive. Then I get to set the belt tension.
It is also nice that I have never had to adjust the power steering pump belt since I put the dual belt on the alternator.
Matt
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Hey Larry,
I just got this other idea!!
Take the fan blade out and cut about 1/2 inch off just one blade, then paint it so that blade is easy to find.
Actually, if I ever have the shroud out, it will become a two piece.....
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153232 is a reply to message #153226] |
Fri, 16 December 2011 21:35 |
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""Hey Larry,
I just got this other idea!!
Take the fan blade out and cut about 1/2 inch off just one blade, then paint it so that blade is easy to find.
""
Ahhh-not so sure about that one!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153314 is a reply to message #153226] |
Sat, 17 December 2011 15:40 |
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Sounds like a potential problem with an imbalanced fan.
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Greg H.
"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."
Doctor Zhivago
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Colie" <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 19:54
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
>
> I only just now figured out why I never have any problem getting new belts
> on......
>
> My fan is so tight in the shroud that I can't get a belt past the fan. So,
> I have to set the fan drive loose from the water pump shaft (and set it
> carefully against the radiator). Then, I remove, replace and route all the
> belts and remount the fan drive. Then I get to set the belt tension.
>
> It is also nice that I have never had to adjust the power steering pump
> belt since I put the dual belt on the alternator.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice? [message #153345 is a reply to message #153339] |
Sat, 17 December 2011 19:15 |
Greg and April
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Sorry - migraine last night and only 2 hrs of sleep this morning.
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Greg H.
"Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite
of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous
system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be
forever violated with impunity."
Doctor Zhivago
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From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 17:14
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Changing AC Belt - any advice?
> Greg,
>
> Matt was KIDDING!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg and April
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> Sounds like a potential problem with an imbalanced fan.
>
> Greg H.
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