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Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152450] Sat, 10 December 2011 18:58 Go to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,

Recently took the refer cabinet away from the wall to look at insulation.

1:- wheel well below refer has NO insulation at all....

2:- Insulation that was on inner walls was not constant thickness, if any at all.

3:- Between bathroom and wooden cabinet there is NO insulation at all...

4:- signs of water getting into coach through wheel well. Being thrown between the wheel liner and wooden floor. ???

Also pipes are not insulated....

So my question is How easy is it to remove the bathroom wooden cabinet, to insulate pipes and bathroom ??

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152492 is a reply to message #152450] Sun, 11 December 2011 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Steve,

The OEM showers are (that I know) FRP (fiberglass) and are fastened to a wood riser in the floor in front and back. Besides disconnecting the plumbing, need move the refrigerator module and shower back panel.

You write wooden cabinets. If a PO has redone that area, then without been there I can't really help you.

If the medicine cabinet part is OEM. It comes out by removing the screws that are just inside the alum track frame. That'll give access to a portion of the coach side wall.

The easy way to insulate. Scrape off what's there and glue foam board with expanding foam (foam in a can). Put some pressure on the foam board to keep the can foam from expanding the board foam outward.

Hope this is of some help.


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Re: Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152523 is a reply to message #152450] Sun, 11 December 2011 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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You can also take the inside shelf out from under the sink. Once there you can insulate the wall, pipes, and top of fenderwell.
Dan


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Re: Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152534 is a reply to message #152523] Sun, 11 December 2011 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
zhagrieb is currently offline  zhagrieb   United States
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I was able to insulate behind the bath without removing the module. As I was installing an on demand water heater behind the refrig I already the refrig out. I removed the wall between refrig compartment and bath and was then able to slide 2 one half inch sheets of semi rigid foam insulation into the spaces between wheel well and bath module, on top of the wheel well and between bath module and outside wall. In order to get 1" behind the medicine cabinet I moved the cabinet out 3/4". I was able to get a total of 1" of insulation in all areas. The area I couldn't reach with the stiff stuff, between the end of the wheel liner and the bedroom wall, I used foil faced "bubble Wrap" insulation that I could fold and slip into place. All insulation came from Lowes.

Glenn


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Re: [GMCnet] Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152540 is a reply to message #152492] Sun, 11 December 2011 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg and April is currently offline  Greg and April   United States
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Stupid question time.....

Why not just use some spray in or pour in expanding foam insulation?


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak


>
>
> Steve,
>
> The OEM showers are (that I know) FRP (fiberglass) and are fastened to a
> wood riser in the floor in front and back. Besides disconnecting the
> plumbing, need move the refrigerator module and shower back panel.
>
> You write wooden cabinets. If a PO has redone that area, then without been
> there I can't really help you.
>
> If the medicine cabinet part is OEM. It comes out by removing the screws
> that are just inside the alum track frame. That'll give access to a
> portion of the coach side wall.
>
> The easy way to insulate. Scrape off what's there and glue foam board with
> expanding foam (foam in a can). Put some pressure on the foam board to
> keep the can foam from expanding the board foam outward.
>
> Hope this is of some help.
> --
> Adrien
> 75 Glenbrook
> Yuba City,Ca.

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Re: [GMCnet] Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152549 is a reply to message #152540] Sun, 11 December 2011 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello,

Many thanks for all your input i have some good ideas to be getting on with. Have taken the fridge cabinet out, was not as hard as i had thought. Of course getting it back in may not be as easy.

Did not know either that you can remove the medicine cabinet, and get access to behiond the bathroom. Thats going to make things a lot easier....

Found also that PO had put a turn buckle in, BUT had removed all the back area of the refer cabinet, in order to get the turn buckle installed. Of course this means the cabinet is not sealed off. Planning to install a 3 way refer i managed to get hold of.

Will have to totally seal cabinet off. I do have a carbon monoxide sensor/alarm module, so thats going to be a good addition.

Sooooo the plan is !!!!! to remake all external cabinet parts in red oak, and wax them, so it looks like natural wood, i love that kind of look...

A little unsure of my wood working skills, but how do you know if you do not try it ????....

Plenty of schemes after that, funny how one thing leads to 15 others !!! Rolling Eyes

For now lots of insulating to get done.

cheers and beers



Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152578 is a reply to message #152450] Sun, 11 December 2011 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Don't forget to be sure the refer "chimney" is in place or make a new one. Creates proper air flow in at bottom and out at top.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Installing bathroom insulation ??, & wheel well leak [message #152611 is a reply to message #152578] Mon, 12 December 2011 00:51 Go to previous message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello

I did think about that John, decided to make a rectangular housing to fit right up against the roof vent, so i can seal the vent to the cabinet around it, if that makes any sense...

Plus the addition of a strut or something to house 2 x 12v low current computer fans. I have a few of those with LED's in, left over from a tower computer i built last year, not doing anything.

I bet at night with those on would look odd as the roof vent might have an eerie glow, might start a trend here LOL

They would be switchable ummmm well seems like a good plan. They would draw air towards the top which help with air flow....

cheers and beers


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
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