| Oil Lines [message #152356] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 23:07  |
RadioActiveGMC
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Awhile ago there was a discussion on how important it is to replace the oil lines (not sure what they are called) coming off of the filter. I'm ready to change mine out. How tough is it? I haven't gotten a chance to look at them yet. But if I recall people said the hoses rot from the inside out. I think JimK sells them for around $110 or something like that. Any special tools needed???
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152361 is a reply to message #152356] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 23:57  |
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| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 23:07 |
Awhile ago there was a discussion on how important it is to replace the oil lines (not sure what they are called) coming off of the filter. I'm ready to change mine out. How tough is it? I haven't gotten a chance to look at them yet. But if I recall people said the hoses rot from the inside out. I think JimK sells them for around $110 or something like that. Any special tools needed???
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No special tools. The hardest thing to to get the old ones loose. I good set of open end wrenches and I believe a socket to loosen one clamp is all I remember you need. If you have some line wrenches it might help to get the old ones loose.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152389 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 09:15 |
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Sir: I have installed them on a pit and on the ground with the wheel and liner and battery removed and both ways were fairly straight forward. Just use a back up wrench on the adapter fittings. Kinda tricky on the radiator end but quite do-able. Once I had to cut the old hose and use a box end wrench.
http://www.bdub.net/jrslaten.html
| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 00:07 |
Awhile ago there was a discussion on how important it is to replace the oil lines (not sure what they are called) coming off of the filter. I'm ready to change mine out. How tough is it? I haven't gotten a chance to look at them yet. But if I recall people said the hoses rot from the inside out. I think JimK sells them for around $110 or something like that. Any special tools needed???
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C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152407 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 11:57 |
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| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 21:07 |
Awhile ago there was a discussion on how important it is to replace the oil lines (not sure what they are called) coming off of the filter. I'm ready to change mine out. How tough is it? I haven't gotten a chance to look at them yet. But if I recall people said the hoses rot from the inside out. I think JimK sells them for around $110 or something like that. Any special tools needed???
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This is a photo shoot of what can happen if you don't do the job and how to do emergency repairs beside the road if you break a line on the road.
BTW, JR Slatten (spelling??) has a beautiful Stainless Steel set available. Maybe Jim also carries them. If so, you might consider it.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4028
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152480 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 22:53 |
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I do want to replace them. I have the passenger wheel well off, and I'm going to check it out. I have to finish my Mercedes restoration project first which should be early this week for the most part. Then I plan on taking out the batteries. So while it has no batteries of wheel well it sounds like a good time to start this project.
I am not sure of the source your telling me about for the stainless oil lines? Who is that? Are the expensive? Any there any cons using the standard replacement type??? I'm sure the pros of the stainless are it sounds like they'd last forever.
After this the other mechanical project I want to start is brake lines.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152481 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 22:56 |
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PS: The pics were helpful. It looks rather easy.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152482 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sat, 10 December 2011 23:01 |
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After thinking about it a minute and seeing the pics and comments on them. Can I take off the old lines, and bring them to a hose repair place? We have a industrial hose repair place in town That maybe cheapest if theres not something I'm missing.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil Lines [message #152516 is a reply to message #152482] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 11:02 |
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A couple years ago while driving I noticed a mist following our coach.
First thought - we didn't go thru a fog bank. seconds later I looked at
the dash to see the oil pressure reading O. Pulled over and shut it down.
The underside and parts of the side were covered in oil. Didn't know then
I could unhook the lines and re-attach the filter, fill with oil and drive.
Got a tow to a freightliner shop (Easter Monday - Holiday) they did not
have the line but got the parts to make a new one. After a few hours we
were back on the road. So they can be made to fit.
Best regards
Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock
77 Eleganza II
77 Kingsley
69 Avanti II
Planning - Across Canada rolling rally for August - September 2012
following a 4 day Cascaders Rally in White Rock.
Those interested email dwayne@havenproperties.ca
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
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> After thinking about it a minute and seeing the pics and comments on them.
> Can I take off the old lines, and bring them to a hose repair place? We
> have a industrial hose repair place in town That maybe cheapest if theres
> not something I'm missing.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil Lines [message #152518 is a reply to message #152482] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 11:08 |
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Michael,
I never had OEM hoses, so I can't be sure, but according to everything I've
been told, the original fittings can be removed and remounted on new hose.
It sounds like a DIY job, but certainly a hydraulic shop should be able to
do it easily. But they may want to sell you unnecessary new fittings.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
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> After thinking about it a minute and seeing the pics and comments on them.
> Can I take off the old lines, and bring them to a hose repair place? We
> have a industrial hose repair place in town That maybe cheapest if theres
> not something I'm missing.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil Lines [message #152520 is a reply to message #152518] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 11:22 |
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Yes, the original hose fittings are easy to replace. They just screw
into the end of the hose. No need to crimp them I did this back in
1992 when living in the San Fransisco area.
However back then it was very difficult to find the correct diameter
hose. I don't know if it is even available today.
I changed to JR Slatens stainless hose several years ago so don't
worry about them anymore.
Emery Stora
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
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> Michael,
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> I never had OEM hoses, so I can't be sure, but according to
> everything I've
> been told, the original fittings can be removed and remounted on new
> hose.
> It sounds like a DIY job, but certainly a hydraulic shop should be
> able to
> do it easily. But they may want to sell you unnecessary new fittings.
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> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com>
> wrote:
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>> After thinking about it a minute and seeing the pics and comments
>> on them.
>> Can I take off the old lines, and bring them to a hose repair
>> place? We
>> have a industrial hose repair place in town That maybe cheapest if
>> theres
>> not something I'm missing.
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152538 is a reply to message #152480] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 14:01 |
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Michael
If I were you I'd pay the extra bucks for the Teflon-stainless hoses as they are bullet proof and will not need changing again. I had mine made up at a hose shop 20 years ago before JR supplied them. JR's hoses are as good as it gets. It's like an insurance policy you don't want to gamble your engine with a fabric hose when it gets old.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152548 is a reply to message #152480] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 16:52 |
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| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 20:53 |
I am not sure of the source your telling me about for the stainless oil lines? Who is that? Are the expensive? Any there any cons using the standard replacement type??? I'm sure the pros of the stainless are it sounds like they'd last forever.
After this the other mechanical project I want to start is brake lines.
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Here is a link to JR Slaton's site:
http://www.bdub.net/slaton/
The prices are listed, and very inexpensive. He will ship them to you and then you can send him a check. Very trusting guy, says he does not get burnt.
In my emergency, I had the ruptured line in hand, went to a hose shop in Lewiston Idaho, gave the old one to the guy, 20 minutes later he came back with the repaired line, used the original fittings. Cost was amazing, under $10, about 6 years ago.
I purchased the JR Slaton lines from him at a GMC rally. Never put them on, sold them with the coach.
JRS makes the best air valves for the original air bag system (power level). Buy them and never look back.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152563 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 19:11 |
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Great info. On the 455 Tube Set for $45 (priced right up my alley) is that the product I can use to replace my old hoses? If so, $45 I'm buying some!
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152564 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 19:14 |
RadioActiveGMC
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Wonder how much the table he sells costs its sweet.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152571 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 20:06 |
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Wow- I was just thinking. When I first bought my coach. It literally blew the engine within maybe a hr or two of ownership driving it back to AZ from CA. After I was researching this I remember losing oil pressure on a big climb and by the time I got to the roadside the coach filled with smoke and the engine was blown. I wonder if the oil line blew. I didn't know a darn thing about motorhomes at the time and only had it a literally not even a few hrs when the engine blew. The mechanics never remotely told me what may have caused it.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
Michael, Onans smell, "Go solar/wind power!"
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152576 is a reply to message #152356] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 20:20 |
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If you didn't see the smoke from the oil spraying, good chance that wasn't it. This can also cause a fire so best to replace.
My advice:
1) By The JR Slatten lines
2) Use flare nut wrenches when working on flair nuts.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152582 is a reply to message #152563] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 20:43 |
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| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sun, 11 December 2011 19:11 |
Great info. On the 455 Tube Set for $45 (priced right up my alley) is that the product I can use to replace my old hoses? If so, $45 I'm buying some!
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I think you are misunderstanding the hose setup on a 455. Connecting to the oil filter adapter is a pair of rigid tubes tht run forward along the engine. Those are the $45.00 items. The from the ends of those tubes to the radiator are two flexible lines. Those are he $85.00 items. I suggest you replace them both unless the tubes on your are rust free.
On the 403 there are no rigid tubes. The 403 used flexible lines the whole way. That is why the 403 lines are longer (and more expensive).
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Oil Lines [message #152591 is a reply to message #152480] |
Sun, 11 December 2011 21:16 |
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| Mr.RadioActive wrote on Sat, 10 December 2011 22:53 |
After this the other mechanical project I want to start is brake lines.
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If you want to do SS brake lines post here for advice before you buy.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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