| [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152166] |
Thu, 08 December 2011 13:22  |
Gary Berry
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Hey All;
I seem to have a problem with hydraulic jacks used to stabilize the
Stretch whether it's here at home or when we are out and about. They
all seem to leak down. I think the problem is that I purchase these
things at Wally World (it seems every trip I have to buy another one).
The 2, 4, and 8 ton units all seem to fail sooner or later. They all
seem to be made in C###a. Where can I get some good American made
jacks? What are others using? Thanks...
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Gary and Diana Berry
73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152193 is a reply to message #152166] |
Thu, 08 December 2011 18:44  |
Don A
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[quote Gary Berry wrote ...a problem with hydraulic jacks
.... They all seem to leak down. [/quote]
Gary have you considered rebuilding them with new O rings. Used to be able to buy rebuild kits for floor jacks. Of course these are from C. I have had a kit for about 10 years for one of my floor jacks, need to get roundtoit.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152215 is a reply to message #152209] |
Thu, 08 December 2011 20:56 |
Rivers
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To whom it may concern, I have worked in hydralics for 20 years, repairing rebuilding and building jacks and pneumatics. I would never never work
under a load supported by jacks alone. That;s including ones I've built or repaired.
Just what I do
Rivers
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Gary Berry wrote on Thu, 08 December 2011 11:22
> I seem to have a problem with hydraulic jacks used to stabilize the
> Stretch whether it's here at home or when we are out and about. They all seem to leak down. ...
From what I have always believed (not sure where I "learned" this): Jacks, especially hydraulic jacks, are not designed to be long term support. That is what jack stands are for.
Granted, a GOOD jack should be fine for months if not years. It is just you can not buy GOOD new jacks at any price.
Of course I have been told that I am full of... something... maybe good advice? :twisted:
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152245 is a reply to message #152166] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 06:23 |
Steven Ferguson
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Gary,
For storage and leveling/stabilizing at parks, I cut the pistons out of
the hydraulic units and welded a small, maybe 3" square plate to the
bottom. I would stick the Ragusa bogey insert in, place the removed piston
under it, then screw the piston insert up until it would start to lift the
coach. Believe it or not, I could nearly raise the coach off the tires
using this method, fingers only. If you raise the coach to full height,
then screw the insert all the way up, then deflate the bags, you can
accomplish the lift completely. This is a great use for leaking bottle
jacks and the pistons don't take up nearly as much room as the complete
hydraulic jacks do. There are photos on the photo site of this.
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey All;
>
> I seem to have a problem with hydraulic jacks used to stabilize the
> Stretch whether it's here at home or when we are out and about. They
> all seem to leak down. I think the problem is that I purchase these
> things at Wally World (it seems every trip I have to buy another one).
> The 2, 4, and 8 ton units all seem to fail sooner or later. They all
> seem to be made in C###a. Where can I get some good American made
> jacks? What are others using? Thanks...
>
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152248 is a reply to message #152245] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 09:36 |
petemosss
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Hey Rivers, I have 2 Red Tourin floor Jacks @ 2-3 years old that drop like a rock. Is it worth trying to fix? What should be done?
Pete
74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152249 is a reply to message #152166] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 09:43 |
sgltrac
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If you have a shop in the area which repairs hydraulics (such as jaxx inc in seattle) you can take them in for an estimate. I have found that Chinese import rams like on a tool town engine crane I have to not be repairable. Its not that the shops aren't capable just that they cannot obtain proper parts. My experience with a shop floor jack and above mentioned crane.
Sully
77 royale
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Hey Rivers, I have 2 Red Tourin floor Jacks @ 2-3 years old that drop like a rock. Is it worth trying to fix? What should be done?
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74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152258 is a reply to message #152255] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 11:00 |
emerystora
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Hi Gary
If you move your propane tank back just a little you can store two of
those jacks just in front of the tank.
Since there is a sloping wall behind the tank you have to cut two 3/4"
plywood blocks the size of the tank feet and drill new holes and use
longer bolts. Move it back just far enough so that the bolts still go
through the metal supports beneath the floor.
An additional advantage is that by lifting the tank you can coil a 25'
length of 3/4" garden hose to use as a macerator extension. I also
store my bogie and jack handleslifts under the tank.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe. NM
On Dec 9, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey All;
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> Thanks for all of the great information. Since these are of Cxxxese
> extraction, I'm not going to rebuild them.I like the Ford jack, but I
> only have so much room behind my refer to store things and those would
> be too big. I think I'm going to tear the current jacks apart and do
> the SteveF modification only with a bigger base. Thanks again.
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Steven Ferguson
> <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Gary,
>> For storage and leveling/stabilizing at parks, I cut the pistons
>> out of
>> the hydraulic units and welded a small, maybe 3" square plate to the
>> bottom.
> --
> Gary and Diana Berry
> 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152344 is a reply to message #152311] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 22:26 |
Ken Burton
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| Gary Berry wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 18:12 |
Hey Emery;
I like that you carry the original jack. I do too...
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73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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I've got one of those somewhere. I do not know if I would ever be able to figure out how to use it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152349 is a reply to message #152344] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 22:34 |
Ken Henderson
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Bolted on a pipe pedestal, mounted on a 16.5' wheel, it comes in VERY handy
under my rack.
Ken H.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
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> Gary Berry wrote on Fri, 09 December 2011 18:12
> > Hey Emery;
> >
> > I like that you carry the original jack. I do too...
>
> I've got one of those somewhere. I do not know if I would ever be able to
> figure out how to use it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hydraulic Jacks [message #152355 is a reply to message #152178] |
Fri, 09 December 2011 23:03 |
Richard Denney
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On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> The red Torin Jack is made in China and can be purchased at:
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> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
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I have one of those. I can't get it to stay retracted. I open the valve and
lower it, but then it tries to extend by magic and can't be constrained.
I bought it to help level and stabilize the coach at places (such as our
ham radio contest mountain) where the ground is none too level. It works
fine for that. I would never use it for long-term support, nor would I
ever, ever, ever work under the coach when it is only supported by a
hydraulic jack. But for stabilization for a couple of days, it's perfect,
considering its size. Or considering the size it would be if it stayed
retracted.
I need the two-stage extension for my application, though. I use it with a
jack hook under the bogie on the low side.
Rick "wishing I'd also bought those Ford-branded jacks you got in Delaware"
Denney
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'73 230 "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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