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[GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151556] Sun, 04 December 2011 12:28 Go to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Back in July '09, Emery reminded us of how to measure the specified angle
of a pork chop (torsion bar adjusting arm). I didn't pay a lot of
attention back then but over the past few days I've become more interested.
After the initial setting of the GMC's ride height, after installing the
1-Ton upgrade, I took a short test ride. When I checked the ride height
again in preparation for refining the alignment, I found the height 1-1/2"
to 2" lower than we'd just set it. Because I needed to order longer bolts
to gain more adjustment range, the project was delayed for a few days.

When the $4.82 each 1/2-20x3-1/2" Gr.8 bolts arrived, had their tips
rounded, and were installed, I found that I could not reach the specified
ride height. I still need to raise the coach about 3/4" on both sides even
though the pork chops can more no farther because they hit the top of the
crossmember.

Having found 5 pork chops in my GMC "junk", I hoped to have a ready
solution to the problem, so I searched out Emery's email. To understand
it, I had to follow each step precisely, laying the PC on a piece of graph
paper and performing the steps. The first photo in the album below is the
result. Unfortunately, I have one 16* PC, presumably from a Toronado, and
four 23* ones. I need two 25.5* or, preferably, 28* units to correct my
problem.

Anyone got an 28* pork chops? I sure hate to spend $500 for the adjustable
ones JimK's now offering. I might drive a nose-dragger for a while. :-(

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5964

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151559 is a reply to message #151556] Sun, 04 December 2011 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ken, I thought they were less than half that price. I better go take a look.
My plan was to get a set.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151561 is a reply to message #151559] Sun, 04 December 2011 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ken, I ran and checked the price. 249.95 a pair. I can still afford them. You scared me.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151587 is a reply to message #151556] Sun, 04 December 2011 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ken,

The adjusting bolt on the pax side of Double Trouble is screwed all the way in. I bought a set of the adjustable pork chops to
install when I get back there in February.

They were $249.50 for a pair.

Maybe if you turn the torsion bars around it will fix the problem?

Sorry just couldn't resist! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson


Back in July '09, Emery reminded us of how to measure the specified angle
of a pork chop (torsion bar adjusting arm). I didn't pay a lot of
attention back then but over the past few days I've become more interested.
After the initial setting of the GMC's ride height, after installing the
1-Ton upgrade, I took a short test ride. When I checked the ride height
again in preparation for refining the alignment, I found the height 1-1/2"
to 2" lower than we'd just set it. Because I needed to order longer bolts
to gain more adjustment range, the project was delayed for a few days.

When the $4.82 each 1/2-20x3-1/2" Gr.8 bolts arrived, had their tips
rounded, and were installed, I found that I could not reach the specified
ride height. I still need to raise the coach about 3/4" on both sides even
though the pork chops can more no farther because they hit the top of the
crossmember.

Having found 5 pork chops in my GMC "junk", I hoped to have a ready
solution to the problem, so I searched out Emery's email. To understand
it, I had to follow each step precisely, laying the PC on a piece of graph
paper and performing the steps. The first photo in the album below is the
result. Unfortunately, I have one 16* PC, presumably from a Toronado, and
four 23* ones. I need two 25.5* or, preferably, 28* units to correct my
problem.

Anyone got an 28* pork chops? I sure hate to spend $500 for the adjustable
ones JimK's now offering. I might drive a nose-dragger for a while. :-(

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5964

Ken H.


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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151591 is a reply to message #151587] Sun, 04 December 2011 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Rob, did you get those from Suspension Maxx?

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement


> Ken,
>
> The adjusting bolt on the pax side of Double Trouble is screwed all the
> way in. I bought a set of the adjustable pork chops to
> install when I get back there in February.
>
> They were $249.50 for a pair.
>
> Maybe if you turn the torsion bars around it will fix the problem?
>
> Sorry just couldn't resist! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
>
> Back in July '09, Emery reminded us of how to measure the specified angle
> of a pork chop (torsion bar adjusting arm). I didn't pay a lot of
> attention back then but over the past few days I've become more
> interested.
> After the initial setting of the GMC's ride height, after installing the
> 1-Ton upgrade, I took a short test ride. When I checked the ride height
> again in preparation for refining the alignment, I found the height 1-1/2"
> to 2" lower than we'd just set it. Because I needed to order longer bolts
> to gain more adjustment range, the project was delayed for a few days.
>
> When the $4.82 each 1/2-20x3-1/2" Gr.8 bolts arrived, had their tips
> rounded, and were installed, I found that I could not reach the specified
> ride height. I still need to raise the coach about 3/4" on both sides
> even
> though the pork chops can more no farther because they hit the top of the
> crossmember.
>
> Having found 5 pork chops in my GMC "junk", I hoped to have a ready
> solution to the problem, so I searched out Emery's email. To understand
> it, I had to follow each step precisely, laying the PC on a piece of graph
> paper and performing the steps. The first photo in the album below is the
> result. Unfortunately, I have one 16* PC, presumably from a Toronado, and
> four 23* ones. I need two 25.5* or, preferably, 28* units to correct my
> problem.
>
> Anyone got an 28* pork chops? I sure hate to spend $500 for the
> adjustable
> ones JimK's now offering. I might drive a nose-dragger for a while. :-(
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5964
>
> Ken H.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151594 is a reply to message #151591] Sun, 04 December 2011 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Gary,

I contacted them directly and they asked me to pay JimK for them, which I did.

He's become a dealer for them.

The price is the same whether you buy them from Suspension Maxx or JimK.

When I get back to the USA in February I will install them and write a procedure on how to do it.

Regards,
Rob
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Worobec

Rob, did you get those from Suspension Maxx?

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151602 is a reply to message #151559] Sun, 04 December 2011 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Ruff is currently offline  John Ruff   United States
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I can no longer affore pork chops. I am lucky at todays prices to afford hot dogs! Smile

John Ruff

WD0AFQ wrote on Sun, 04 December 2011 11:46

Ken, I thought they were less than half that price. I better go take a look.
My plan was to get a set.
Dan



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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151634 is a reply to message #151561] Sun, 04 December 2011 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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My mistake! I just remembered the bad news number, not the number of
adjustable pork chops it covered! :-)

Sorry, JimK.

Ken H.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Dan Gregg wrote:

>
>
> Ken, I ran and checked the price. 249.95 a pair. I can still afford them.
> You scared me.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop Measurement [message #151638 is a reply to message #151587] Sun, 04 December 2011 21:59 Go to previous message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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You're probably right; that would proably fix it for a day or two -- just
long enough for you to say, "See, I told you!" . :-)

Ken H.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:
...
>
> Maybe if you turn the torsion bars around it will fix the problem?
>
> Sorry just couldn't resist! ;-)
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