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GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151242] Thu, 01 December 2011 20:09 Go to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Please can anyone tell me the size/type of wheel bearings i need to replace the old ones back and front. I know it may be too much info to expect but thought i would ask and see.

regards


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151246 is a reply to message #151242] Thu, 01 December 2011 20:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:09 PM, steve & debbie wrote:

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>
> Please can anyone tell me the size/type of wheel bearings i need to replace the old ones back and front. I know it may be too much info to expect but thought i would ask and see.
>
> regards
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach

The front wheel bearings use a Timken Set #23.

For the rear:

The inner bearing (cone) is Timken LM-501349
The outer bearing (cone) is Timken LM-15103S

The inner cup is Timken LM-501310
The outer cup is Timken LM-15243

You will also have to replace the seals for the front and the rear. I can give you the numbers if you need them.



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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151247 is a reply to message #151242] Thu, 01 December 2011 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most of us have had great success with the Timkin bearings.
They command more, but Dave Lenzi,Jeff Sirum, Tom Hampton, Jim Bounds
and I use them.
I have the honor of supplying them to them most of the time as I give
them a quantity discount.
On the front, if your not aware when I speak of the bearing clearance
after it is assembled on the hub, then you should stop and ask what
that is about.
Do not waste your time clamping them on a vise, it just gives an indicator.
Dave L found out couple years ago that the inner seal on a non
National seal was generating metal particles as the bearing spun.
Lot of you that are using the heavy duty front end are running on Red
Chinese bearings so don't brag that your gong to go 200,000 miles on
them.






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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151248 is a reply to message #151242] Thu, 01 December 2011 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Forgot to say that I personally would not use any other bearings but the Timkens.

Emery

On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:09 PM, steve & debbie wrote:

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> Please can anyone tell me the size/type of wheel bearings i need to replace the old ones back and front. I know it may be too much info to expect but thought i would ask and see.
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> 77 Palm Beach
> EX G4WDT
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Re: GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151258 is a reply to message #151242] Thu, 01 December 2011 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Make it easy on yourself and order them from Jim K.

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151278 is a reply to message #151258] Fri, 02 December 2011 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well i may end up ordering some but i do not have a huge piggy bank... so i try and find ways to save $$. The GMC's are a bit like Banks they eat Cash Very Happy, did i say that ?????

Someone refers to their coach as a money pit. they got that right ...

Thanks for the post.

Regards


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151283 is a reply to message #151242] Fri, 02 December 2011 01:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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you can read here

http://gmcmotorhome.info/rear.html#BEARINGS

and here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html#ZERK

and to never do the front end again use the one-ton V-II sold here (good
price too)
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1043

gene

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>
> Please can anyone tell me the size/type of wheel bearings i need to
> replace the old ones back and front. I know it may be too much info to
> expect but thought i would ask and see.
>
> regards
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> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151285 is a reply to message #151247] Fri, 02 December 2011 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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so don't brag that your gong to go 200,000 miles on

why not?
- better to change the OEM bearings every 30,000 miles?

-you sell them
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1043

- never heard of a failure yet (make sure axles are long enough so they do
not pull out of the bearings)

- spec. to 300,000 miles

- can still get new parts (un-like the TORO axles)

- 4 bolts to change one bearing (no $600 puller)
http://goo.gl/4vaZZ

- new life for old GMC's
http://gmcmotorhome.info/front.html

- 100,000 miles will be ok for me....

JMHO
gene

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Re: GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151299 is a reply to message #151278] Fri, 02 December 2011 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Thu, 01 December 2011 23:37

Well i may end up ordering some but i do not have a huge piggy bank... so i try and find ways to save $$. The GMC's are a bit like Banks they eat Cash Very Happy, did i say that ?????

Someone refers to their coach as a money pit. they got that right ...

Thanks for the post.

Regards



It won't cost you any more to get them from the right source and you will know you are getting the right thing. BTDT.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151302 is a reply to message #151299] Fri, 02 December 2011 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, I'm one who named my coach "Money Pit"
but my wife calls it the "Money PIG!"

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~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: carljr3b@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:21:09 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ?
>
>
>
> glacierfl wrote on Thu, 01 December 2011 23:37
> > Well i may end up ordering some but i do not have a huge piggy bank... so i try and find ways to save $$. The GMC's are a bit like Banks they eat Cash :d, did i say that ?????
> >
> > Someone refers to their coach as a money pit. they got that right ...
> >
> > Thanks for the post.
> >
> > Regards
>
>
>
> It won't cost you any more to get them from the right source and you will know you are getting the right thing. BTDT.
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151313 is a reply to message #151302] Fri, 02 December 2011 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Hello

When i first saw the quote "The Money Pit", i thought oh dear what have i done getting a GMC Motorhome......

If its done in stages and you do not keep a count, then it's cheap right ????? LOL

Regards


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151315 is a reply to message #151313] Fri, 02 December 2011 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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glacierfl wrote on Fri, 02 December 2011 10:26

Hello

When i first saw the quote "The Money Pit", i thought oh dear what have i done getting a GMC Motorhome......

If its done in stages and you do not keep a count, then it's cheap right ????? LOL

Regards



This is true, but you're in for a shock when you decide to total it up someday! Confused


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151319 is a reply to message #151315] Fri, 02 December 2011 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
glacierfl   United States
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Carl

I am scared to do that.

Money spent on rivet nut tools and other sundry stuff, like insulation boards, cans of foam spray,replacment led lights for roof to name but a few.

I am sure is approaching $1000 already.

Thats before the normal stuff to do like brakes wheel bearings etc etc...

But you know its still better than paying over $100,000 for a new RV, that may even have a rotted out roof later down the road ...

cheers and beers.


Steve & Debbie Monticello, FL 77 Palm Beach :- Aurora EX G4WDT
Re: GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151327 is a reply to message #151242] Fri, 02 December 2011 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve or Debbie, not sure who is writing, but if you are in Florida, I would suggest you have either Jim Bounds at the Co-op in Orlando or Jeff Sirum do you front bearing. They CANNOT be removed and properly re-installed without specialized tools !!!!

Unless you can borrow the tools and have excellent mechanical
abilities, I doubt you could do the fronts by yourself without someone experienced looking over your shoulder. The expense of the tools takes a long time to amoratize vs the occassional expense of having a GMC shop do the job. The original schedule for changing/checking the front bearings I believe was every 25000 miles. Even if you drove 5000 miles per year, that means only doing the fronts every 5 years. I don't know the price of the front bearing labor at a GMC shop but its only once every 5 years. If it were me and unless someone real good wanted to help, I'd have it done at a GMC shop and buy a spare set of bearings so that 5 years done the road I'd be sure to have the parts. I bought a bearing tool several years ago so I could help if someone broke down in Southern Ontario and so far never used the tool. I don't have a GMC YET !!!!!

As Jim K says, the 1 ton front end conversion changes this whole story and if your coach needs knuckles and or hubs it makes the 1 ton conversion much closer to the price of the repairs.
DAVE KING


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151336 is a reply to message #151278] Fri, 02 December 2011 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steve,
If you have time, I will show you how to inspect each roller and race
and help you save $.
Being a true Ornamental, I use to spend time and reuse parts until we
started our shop.
Now we cannot take chance or have the time to inspect in a way that we
can stand behind our work without installing new parts.








On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Well i may end up ordering some but i do not have a huge piggy bank... so i try and find ways to save $$. The GMC's are a bit like Banks they eat Cash  :d, did i say that ?????
>
> Someone refers to their coach as a money pit. they got that right ...
>
> Thanks for the post.
>
> Regards
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach
> EX G4WDT
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151360 is a reply to message #151315] Fri, 02 December 2011 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First rule of hobbies, cars or GMCs:  NEVER add it up.  It leads only to grief.
 
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glacierfl wrote on Fri, 02 December 2011 10:26
> Hello
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> When i first saw the quote "The Money Pit", i thought oh dear what have i done getting a GMC Motorhome......
>
> If its done in stages and you do not keep a count, then it's cheap right ????? LOL
>
> Regards



This is true, but you're in for a shock when you decide to total it up someday! :?
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151363 is a reply to message #151360] Fri, 02 December 2011 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's like beer. Figure out how much you'll need, double it, then add a little...

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151374 is a reply to message #151363] Fri, 02 December 2011 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary

....even then there isn't enough ! <g>

Mike in NS

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> It's like beer. Figure out how much you'll need, double it, then add a
> little...
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> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
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> grief.
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151377 is a reply to message #151374] Fri, 02 December 2011 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree! But then, there is always 101 Wild Turkey...

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> ....even then there isn't enough !  <g>
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC wheel bearing specifications ? [message #151395 is a reply to message #151374] Fri, 02 December 2011 22:53 Go to previous message
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Gary,
I'm a midget compared to you, so I get by on less.
Sometimes it is OK to be short and small. Maybe Grace will not agree,
but were talking about drinking.





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> Gary
>
> ....even then there isn't enough !  <g>
>
> Mike in NS
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> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's like beer. Figure out how much you'll need, double it, then add a
>> little...
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > First rule of hobbies, cars or GMCs:  NEVER add it up.  It leads only to
>> grief.
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>> > --johnny
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