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| How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150561] |
Wed, 23 November 2011 20:55  |
glacierfl
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Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want to repair it. I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes apart but no joy. I notice that the lower part is riveted into the frame. Do you have to remove these rivets to dismantle ???
Regards
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
EX G4WDT
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150566 is a reply to message #150561] |
Wed, 23 November 2011 21:01  |
Bruce Hart
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Good topic, I ned to take my dash out so I can seal up all the drafts
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:55 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want to repair it.
> I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes apart but no
> joy. I notice that the lower part is riveted into the frame. Do you have to
> remove these rivets to dismantle ???
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> Regards
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 77 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150571 is a reply to message #150561] |
Wed, 23 November 2011 21:52 |
Ken Henderson
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Steve & Bruce,
Most of the plasticizer has been baked out of that old plastic so it's very
brittle. Here's a photo of the underside of the assembly. It's hard to
know where to stop, so don't look at the following photos.
Ken H.
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM, steve & debbie <zzdebz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want to repair it.
> I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes apart but no
> joy...
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| Re: How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150574 is a reply to message #150561] |
Wed, 23 November 2011 23:53 |
Adrien G.
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Steve,
The dash has fasteners on the bottom and on top next to the windshield. The side panels have fastener on the floor, on top, in the rear under the wall panel, and 2 ea. in the front ( remove glove box and reach through the glove box and feel for those ).
The side panel need to move back to give space to the dash to come out. Removal of one or both of the side panel makes it much easier to move the dash out.
The big trick is removing the top screws at the windshield, without removing the windshields. The screws are vertical, but the glass is not, and the screws are most likely rusted in.
Do all the insulating and sealing while you can, the fire wall, floor to wall, gas fill tube to floor to eliminate air infiltration and noise reduction.
I plastic welded the dash cracks and covered with pleather.
I don't think the dash fastening of a 77 is too much different then a 75.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150575 is a reply to message #150571] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 00:00 |
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mike miller
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 23 November 2011 19:52 |
Steve & Bruce,
Most of the plasticizer has been baked out of that old plastic so it's very
brittle. Here's a photo of the underside of the assembly. It's hard to
know where to stop, so don't look at the following photos.
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> Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want
> to repair it.
> I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes
> apart but no joy...
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Link???
Maybe this one(?):
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=23846>
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150579 is a reply to message #150575] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 04:40 |
Bruce Hart
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Great Job Mike!
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 23 November 2011 19:52
> > Steve & Bruce,
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> > Most of the plasticizer has been baked out of that old plastic so it's
> very
> > brittle. Here's a photo of the underside of the assembly. It's hard to
> > know where to stop, so don't look at the following photos.
> >
> > >
> > > Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want
> > > to repair it.
> > > I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes
> > > apart but no joy...
>
> Link???
> Maybe this one(?):
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=23846>
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> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> (#1)'73 26' exPainted D. -- (#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23'
> Birchaven Side Bath
> http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150583 is a reply to message #150581] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 08:52 |
Don A
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That is a great photo essay of Ken's beautiful new dash.
But doesn't answer the question of how the orginal comes apart.
I also have to do that soon.
Thanks
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
[IMG]http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6109/G2.jpg[/IMG]
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150606 is a reply to message #150587] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 14:08 |
Ken Henderson
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I'll admit my first response to this thread was somewhat facetious. But
not entirely. My real answer is: DON'T plan to re-install a removed OEM
dash. After having removed mine, I'm more convinced than ever that it's
easier to build a replacement from scratch than to replace it. Not only
will repairing the damage to the OEM unit be a real pain, it will leave
most of the original design shortcomings in place.
My album may not show it, but the ad hoc design, fabrication, and
installation of the new dash wasn't really a big job. Most of the sheet
metal folds were made using a 40 year old 18" Japanese bench brake for
which I probably paid $9.95. Only a couple of pieces were longer and
required the machine shop's brake -- I could have done those with some
boards and C-clamps.
Now if you don't like the rectilinear designs of most DIY dashes and want
something nearly original, consider Frank Jenkins' fiberglass copy of the
OEM dash. At least it provides a solid platform to begin with.
JMHO,
Ken H.
Don A wrote on Thu, 24 November 2011 06:52
> > ...
> > But doesn't answer the question of how the orginal comes apart.
> > ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150608 is a reply to message #150606] |
Thu, 24 November 2011 15:27 |
sgltrac
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Ken I totally agree. I'm going to build custom no frills dash with gauges top mounted in individual pods. I have a decent complete dash pulled from a parts coach just for reference to build the new one. It is so brittle everywhere you could go on and on trying to repair it all. The ducting for dash air is the only thing worth saving I think. But the ducting uses the underside of the dash to complete the top of defroster ducting. If everything is functioning in your dash but the top is ugly, I would explore cosmetic remedys that leave the dash in place. By the time u pull it and re-instal it it will be in worse shape than if you had left it alone
Jwit
Sully
77 royale
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ???
I'll admit my first response to this thread was somewhat facetious. But
not entirely. My real answer is: DON'T plan to re-install a removed OEM
dash. After having removed mine, I'm more convinced than ever that it's
easier to build a replacement from scratch than to replace it. Not only
will repairing the damage to the OEM unit be a real pain, it will leave
most of the original design shortcomings in place.
My album may not show it, but the ad hoc design, fabrication, and
installation of the new dash wasn't really a big job. Most of the sheet
metal folds were made using a 40 year old 18" Japanese bench brake for
which I probably paid $9.95. Only a couple of pieces were longer and
required the machine shop's brake -- I could have done those with some
boards and C-clamps.
Now if you don't like the rectilinear designs of most DIY dashes and want
something nearly original, consider Frank Jenkins' fiberglass copy of the
OEM dash. At least it provides a solid platform to begin with.
JMHO,
Ken H.
Don A wrote on Thu, 24 November 2011 06:52
> > ...
> > But doesn't answer the question of how the orginal comes apart.
> > ...
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150652 is a reply to message #150651] |
Fri, 25 November 2011 21:42 |
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Wow, Don & Susan!
That would seem to be a good photo to have posted for ALL to see!
I'd surely like to have a copy and I'd bet a lot of othere would!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: don.jeffers@frontier.com
> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 21:39:03 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ???
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> glacierfl wrote on Wed, 23 November 2011 21:55
> > Hello out there, i have parts of the dash broken, and i want to repair it. I have looked for photos showing how the whole thing comes apart but no joy. I notice that the lower part is riveted into the frame. Do you have to remove these rivets to dismantle ???
> >
> > Regards
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> Hello Steve and Debbie,
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> Send me a PM (private message) with your email address and I will send you a photo of the tool we made from a cheap screwdriver to take the forward screws out without breaking up the dase or taking the windshield out.
>
> Don & Susan Jeffers
> 78 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do i dismantle dash ??? [message #150658 is a reply to message #150653] |
Fri, 25 November 2011 22:15 |
powerjon
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The GMC Photo Site.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/help.html
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Nov 25, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Don Jeffers wrote:
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> [quote title=k2gkk wrote on Fri, 25 November 2011 22:42]
> Wow, Don & Susan!
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> That would seem to be a good photo to have posted for ALL to see!
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> I'd surely like to have a copy and I'd bet a lot of othere would!
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> ~ OK
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> Where and how do I post the photo?
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> I posted the photo on a previous iteration of the forum, but I think
> that is long gone.
>
> Don & Susan Jeffers
> 78 Eleganza II
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