| inner wheel well [message #149899] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 12:53  |
John Kelley
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some one took the inner wheel well out of the passenger side,-now the battery is exposed-how do they fit, anyone have experance with replaceing them? why would you remove it??
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| Re: inner wheel well [message #149921 is a reply to message #149919] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 16:41  |
bwevers
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I heard that the wheel well liners were an option on the early coaches. I've seen coaches running around without the liners. I guess it depends on the roads you drive on....
Regards,
Bill
Bill Wevers GMC49ers, GMC Western States
1975 Glenbrook - Manny Powerdrive, OneTon
455 F Block, G heads
San Jose
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| Re: inner wheel well [message #149948 is a reply to message #149899] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 20:16 |
Chr$
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I run without mine, but I also haven't driven in rain yet...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: inner wheel well [message #149955 is a reply to message #149899] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 20:54 |
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mike miller
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| John Kelley wrote on Thu, 17 November 2011 10:53 |
some one took the inner wheel well out of the passenger side,-now the battery is exposed-how do they fit, anyone have experance with replaceing them? why would you remove it??
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Removing the inner wheel well (liners) makes it MUCH easier to access some items on the side of the engine and some find it easier to change the batteries from the wheel well.
Putting the wheel wells liners back in can be a pain. (I have damaged the body where the liners bolt on... be carefull.) But leaving them out has issues. I have had to scrape mud off my batteries (got stuck...) and I once put a flap behind my headlight to keep the wiring from getting soaked. But what if you never drove off pavement or in the rain? Maybe, but make sure you have our front hatches latched down real good. I had a side-wind blow open a front hatch at freeway speed.
KenH has a method of cutting the liner in two. Making it (the inner part) a lot easier to remove and reinstall.
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3609>
Someday I need to try it.... I have four of them under the cover in the backyard.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] inner wheel well [message #149959 is a reply to message #149955] |
Thu, 17 November 2011 21:05 |
Ken Henderson
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BUT, I must report one flaw in my design: You have to remove the wheel to
get to the mid-line screws. It might be feasible to make the cut nearer
the outside and make the screws accessible with the wheel in place. In my
case, since I have flares in the the way, the mod is a great improvement,
but removing the OEM configuration is easier.
Ken H.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
> ...KenH has a method of cutting the liner in two. Making it (the inner
> part) a lot easier to remove and reinstall.
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3609>
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| Re: [GMCnet] inner wheel well [message #149971 is a reply to message #149959] |
Fri, 18 November 2011 00:25 |
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mike miller
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 17 November 2011 19:05 |
BUT, I must report one flaw in my design: You have to remove the wheel to
get to the mid-line screws. It might be feasible to make the cut nearer
the outside and make the screws accessible with the wheel in place. In my
case, since I have flares in the the way, the mod is a great improvement,
but removing the OEM configuration is easier.
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I was actually thinking of having the split just inboard of the inner edge of the tire that way the liner would proved some protection even with only one half in. BUT... I could split the liner at the outer edge of the tire IF it that would make more sense. (ie: easier to remove and re-install.)
I also planned using bolts or maybe even 1/4 turn fasteners. (Zuz fasteners??) Would that make it easier to remove even with the tire in place?
It is nice to learn from other peoples experiences. (You cannot really call them mistakes...) I have been thinking about this for a while... maybe I should actually DO something....
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] inner wheel well [message #149976 is a reply to message #149971] |
Fri, 18 November 2011 06:18 |
Ken Burton
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I have had mine out for years and many thousands of miles. I have never had any problems because of it.
I have driven in heavy rain on many occasions.
I originally took them out after my engine fire to do repairs to various things. I initially left them off so I could check for engine leaks and the general condition of things that I changed or "improved" during that repair. I still have them out and see no reason to reinstall them. I sure like to be able to visually check things at any time I want and the easy access to work on anything in that area.
Blaine, Diane, and I just replaced the upper A-frame bushings last week on my coach. We had easy access to everything without having to remove the wheel liners.
If I ever have another engine fire, I'll be able to easily get to the top of the engine with a fire extinguisher. I couldn't do that before and that was a major impediment in trying to extinguish that fire. If you reinstall them, I strongly suggest you drill a several 1.5" holes in each liner one so you can stick a foam fire extinguisher in there and hit the top of the engine.
I have slung mud around there after parking on grass for a few days of rain. I spun the wheels getting out. The mud washed out easily. I have never needed to do it manually because the water on the road does if for me. The one time I really got it muddy in Manitoba, it was clean again by the time I got home 1,100 miles later.
When you drive in the rain, the water is splashed everywhere around the lower engine compartment whether you have liners in or not. I think we are just talking about how much water you are spraying around.
I do not think I'll ever reinstall them. There are too many benefits from leaving them out. I'm saving them for the next owner.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] inner wheel well [message #149983 is a reply to message #149971] |
Fri, 18 November 2011 06:40 |
Ken Henderson
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If I were doing it now, I'd probably cut a crescent out of the inner wall
and possibly use Dzus fasteners. That would leave protection for my
forward-mounted batteries and eliminate the need to disconnect the mud flap
from the cross-bar which is also attached to the lower rear of the liner.
Leaving the crescents out might satisfy all of KenB's concerns also.
When I did the current mod, I didn't have the shop facilities I have now --
simplicity was a major concern; the straight aluminum splices met that
criterion..
Ken H.
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Mike Miller wrote:
> ...
> I was actually thinking of having the split just inboard of the inner edge
> of the tire that way the liner would proved some protection even with only
> one half in. BUT... I could split the liner at the outer edge of the tire
> IF it that would make more sense. (ie: easier to remove and re-install.)
>
> I also planned using bolts or maybe even 1/4 turn fasteners. (Zuz
> fasteners??) Would that make it easier to remove even with the tire in
> place?
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>
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| Re: inner wheel well [message #149991 is a reply to message #149899] |
Fri, 18 November 2011 08:24 |
Chr$
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I may put them back in, but cut them way down just to capture any crud off the rolling wheels and keep it off the plywood above. The plywood is my only concern, but I may also install some alum or 1/8" polypro sheeting there...
I like having unfettered access to everything under there.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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