| [GMCnet] wind power [message #149586] |
Sun, 13 November 2011 20:18  |
glwgmc
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Lots of smart money in this game, but only in very specific circumstances. The National Labs have been studying this for a few decades or more and there is no universal conclusion. In some settings, with some combinations of other generation technology, with some combinations of grid dynamics control and some very defined constant wind current regions a few kinds of wind turbines seem to make some sense. One of the really big hurdles is the grid dynamics issue. The more points of entry (different generation facilities) in a given region of the grid the more difficult it is to control the behavior of the localized grid and how that effects the rest of the grid at each inter-tie point. Sounds complicated, and it is. No slam dunk here. It is "easy" to speculate about how much wind power is available around the world and how that could be harnessed to supply the world's electricity needs, but no one has yet figured out how to really do it. So, with all this kind of stuff,
walk slowly and look for the really smart money. Go where they go and no where else. Unless, of course, you can find Nicola Tesla running around somewhere, then follow him......
Jerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] wind power [message #149610 is a reply to message #149600] |
Mon, 14 November 2011 03:24  |
James Hupy
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Perhaps we can install some privately owned turbines downwind from
Washington DC and power them with all the hot air that is expelled daily
from there. <Grin> How about a small ducted fan housed in an attractive
streamlined containment on top of our GMCs that would power a dc generator
to charge our batteries with free wind energy while underway. Yes I know,
you have to burn fossil fuel to move the GMC, and the energy spent to gain
what the ducted fan would put out would be greater than driving a belt
driven alternator. I just needed that last comment for GMC content.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Dolph Santorine
<dolph@dolphsantorine.com>wrote:
> Careful, congress might get wind of this (pun intended) and some
> Congressman will say it's going to tip over.....
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> On Nov 13, 2011, at 11:14 PM, Gary Berry wrote:
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> > I'm really worried that with all of the wind turbines around the
> > earth that they are actually slowing the earth's rotation. We need to
> > develop a big stationary turbine jet engine to counteract this. I'm
> > just saying...
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> > Gary and Diana Berry
> > 73 CL Stretch in Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] wind power [message #149612 is a reply to message #149610] |
Mon, 14 November 2011 03:32 |
Ken Burton
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I use to tell my daughter that with all of the stuff we are launching into space that the earth was getting lighter. I said that would change it's orbit around the sun and bring on earth warming. I asked her to prove me wrong.
She never took the challenge. She knew it was all BS.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] wind power [message #149615 is a reply to message #149614] |
Mon, 14 November 2011 03:52 |
Ken Burton
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| James Hupy wrote on Mon, 14 November 2011 03:40 |
Ken, your idea has more scientific evidence to support it than many of the
crackpot theories that "they" are putting forth. Better not let Bob Dole
hear you talk. He might list you as one of his confidential sources in the
scientific community that he quotes as experts in their field. Didn't say
that many of his experts were standing in corn fields and selling the idea
of mixing that stuff with gasoline instead of making it into whiskey.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I use to tell my daughter that with all of the stuff we are launching into
> space that the earth was getting lighter. I said that would change it's
> orbit around the sun and bring on earth warming. I asked her to prove me
> wrong.
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> She never took the challenge. She knew it was all BS.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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I was just having a little fun with her and trying to challenge her to think out of the box.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] wind power [message #149617 is a reply to message #149615] |
Mon, 14 November 2011 04:20 |
Dolph Santorine
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Whisky is a great idea. Besides, it has at least some food value.
Dolph Santorine
adolph@Santorine.org
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
On Nov 14, 2011, at 4:52 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> James Hupy wrote on Mon, 14 November 2011 03:40
>> Ken, your idea has more scientific evidence to support it than many of the
>> crackpot theories that "they" are putting forth. Better not let Bob Dole
>> hear you talk. He might list you as one of his confidential sources in the
>> scientific community that he quotes as experts in their field. Didn't say
>> that many of his experts were standing in corn fields and selling the idea
>> of mixing that stuff with gasoline instead of making it into whiskey.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, OR
>> 78 GMC Royale 403
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>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>
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>>> I use to tell my daughter that with all of the stuff we are launching into
>>> space that the earth was getting lighter. I said that would change it's
>>> orbit around the sun and bring on earth warming. I asked her to prove me
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> She never took the challenge. She knew it was all BS.
>>> --
>>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>>> 76 Palm Beach
>>> Hebron, Indiana
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> I was just having a little fun with her and trying to challenge her to think out of the box.
>
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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