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| Original Drive Train [message #145903] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 08:05  |
LNelson
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I am interested in hearing how many are "out there" with coaches with original engine, tranny, and final drive and confident enough to take her anywhere....and with mileage well into the 100,000's????
Not saying no maintenance in the history, just no rebuilds.
Also, in my past life as a GMC'er, I know I towed with the 3.07 FD and can't recall how the 3.42 helped when I switched over. Looking at a coach with the original everything, very nice, too. My old coach was kissing 100k and did not scare me, but I had been through a tranny change (Danny Dunn) at about 90k.
I realize nobody's experience is transferable and my results may differ....but....nice knowing the experience of others.
So, I want someone to say, "hey, I have 156,000 miles on my original engine, never touched my tranny, and who needs other than the original final drive!!!".....or something like that.
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145908 is a reply to message #145903] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 08:16  |
Steven Ferguson
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Gordy and Carol James topped the 200,000 mark earlier this year. Motor has
never been touched.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Larry Nelson <larrynelsonarchitect@mchsi.com
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> I am interested in hearing how many are "out there" with coaches with
> original engine, tranny, and final drive and confident enough to take her
> anywhere....and with mileage well into the 100,000's????
>
> Not saying no maintenance in the history, just no rebuilds.
>
> Also, in my past life as a GMC'er, I know I towed with the 3.07 FD and
> can't recall how the 3.42 helped when I switched over. Looking at a coach
> with the original everything, very nice, too. My old coach was kissing 100k
> and did not scare me, but I had been through a tranny change (Danny Dunn) at
> about 90k.
>
> I realize nobody's experience is transferable and my results may
> differ....but....nice knowing the experience of others.
>
> So, I want someone to say, "hey, I have 156,000 miles on my original
> engine, never touched my tranny, and who needs other than the original final
> drive!!!".....or something like that.
> --
> Ex GMC'er, now an Ex Busnut
> Gonna get another GMC soon
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145911 is a reply to message #145908] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 09:24 |
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WD0AFQ
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Sat, 08 October 2011 08:16 |
Gordy and Carol James topped the 200,000 mark earlier this year. Motor has
never been touched.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Larry Nelson <larrynelsonarchitect@mchsi.com
> wrote:
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> I am interested in hearing how many are "out there" with coaches with
> original engine, tranny, and final drive and confident enough to take her
> anywhere....and with mileage well into the 100,000's????
>
> Not saying no maintenance in the history, just no rebuilds.
>
> Also, in my past life as a GMC'er, I know I towed with the 3.07 FD and
> can't recall how the 3.42 helped when I switched over. Looking at a coach
> with the original everything, very nice, too. My old coach was kissing 100k
> and did not scare me, but I had been through a tranny change (Danny Dunn) at
> about 90k.
>
> I realize nobody's experience is transferable and my results may
> differ....but....nice knowing the experience of others.
>
> So, I want someone to say, "hey, I have 156,000 miles on my original
> engine, never touched my tranny, and who needs other than the original final
> drive!!!".....or something like that.
> --
> Ex GMC'er, now an Ex Busnut
> Gonna get another GMC soon
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Larry, it will all be in how the thing was taken care of. Carol and Gordie are particular with their coach and don't let anything go when something needs attention. I am not surprised they have kissed 200,000 with that coach. Seems I can't kiss 10 k with an engine and I am easy on them. Did have 30 on the first one that popped in 2010.
Did you get the notes from Randy and me?
Dan
3 In Stainless Exhaust Headers
One Ton All Discs/Reaction Arm
355 FD/Quad Bag/Alum Radiator Manny Tran/New eng.
Holley EFI/10 Tire Air Monitoring System
Solarized Coach/Upgraded Windows
Satelite TV/On Demand Hot Water/3Way Refer
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145915 is a reply to message #145911] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 10:14 |
LNelson
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Dan, yes, got your notes but neither of you told me which way to go. C'mon.......
Seriously, I know what to look for, and I know the equations. If one coach has no awning, I might ask myself, "I wonder what a full length awning weighs vs a Walmart canopy stowed on the Jeep rack? Weight is everything. Even the difference between my Wrangler, which I bought new, and a Sammy, like I USED to tow behind my GMC...that is half a ton difference. Even when I had my bus, my next project was "weight reduction". I can't wait to join up with this disfunctional family again.
I realize that "mechanicals" are a crap shoot. Anytime you have two moving parts rubbing against each other, one could let go without warning. I am a big fan of oil analysis and used in on my bus, use it currently on the Twinkie and the Cessna 195 (Blackstone). But that process has to wait until I ACTUALLY BUY A COACH!!!
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145920 is a reply to message #145903] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 11:27 |
jhbridges
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Not over 100k yet - but the parts coach is box stock, runs and shifts like it should. Needs a gasket on the right exhaust maniforld right now, unless I find a crack when I get around to checking. The driver is at 85K, runs and shifts fine. It's had headers added, and the trans serviced with new filter and fluid. Properly cared for,k and not ragged, the 455 ought to run many miles.
--johnny
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From: Larry Nelson <larrynelsonarchitect@mchsi.com>
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Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train
I am interested in hearing how many are "out there" with coaches with original engine, tranny, and final drive and confident enough to take her anywhere....and with mileage well into the 100,000's????
Not saying no maintenance in the history, just no rebuilds.
Also, in my past life as a GMC'er, I know I towed with the 3.07 FD and can't recall how the 3.42 helped when I switched over. Looking at a coach with the original everything, very nice, too. My old coach was kissing 100k and did not scare me, but I had been through a tranny change (Danny Dunn) at about 90k.
I realize nobody's experience is transferable and my results may differ....but....nice knowing the experience of others.
So, I want someone to say, "hey, I have 156,000 miles on my original engine, never touched my tranny, and who needs other than the original final drive!!!".....or something like that.
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Gonna get another GMC soon
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145932 is a reply to message #145922] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 16:39 |
mschultz
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OK I will bite on this topic. We too are not at 100,000 and a 403 at that. No upgrades to the final drive or work as far as I know to the engine. Carburated. Anyway, third owner. Turning 98,000 miles on this trip. I guess you always have questions and worries about these things, but I am always amazed how she continues to purr on and will deal with the whatevers as they occur. Owning classic equipment, which I am adicted to, always requires a cell phone, black list if there is such a thing and a healthy credit card. People on this forum have told me of 403 engines going 300,000 miles and I only hope my carma will allow for such fortune. Our last big trip had transmission written all over it and only required a governor cleaning and new modulater to make like new. The final drive in these flat lands of Michigan are no problem, the only question is how much gas you want to consume and how fast do you want to drive. I have achieved 12mpg in the past. So, after driving it like I stole it into the night to see my new granddaugher and camping in my daughter's drive way, I am halfway through another fun filled adventure.The only question I have about GMC ownership is what is next on the horizon. And the wife declared today in front of witnesses that we like it and it is fun. Can not beat that.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Original Drive Train [message #145953 is a reply to message #145932] |
Sat, 08 October 2011 23:38 |
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ljdavick
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Great good new on the Grandbaby!
We were talking just last night about how remarkably reliable these old girls are. Until they're not.
For now my girl is remarkable.
Larry Davick
On Oct 8, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Michael Schultz <mschultz2002@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> OK I will bite on this topic. We too are not at 100,000 and a 403 at that. No upgrades to the final drive or work as far as I know to the engine. Carburated. Anyway, third owner. Turning 98,000 miles on this trip. I guess you always have questions and worries about these things, but I am always amazed how she continues to purr on and will deal with the whatevers as they occur. Owning classic equipment, which I am adicted to, always requires a cell phone, black list if there is such a thing and a healthy credit card. People on this forum have told me of 403 engines going 300,000 miles and I only hope my carma will allow for such fortune. Our last big trip had transmission written all over it and only required a governor cleaning and new modulater to make like new. The final drive in these flat lands of Michigan are no problem, the only question is how much gas you want to consume and how fast do you want to drive. I have achieved 12mpg in the past. So, after driving it like
I
> stole it into the night to see my new granddaugher and camping in my daughter's drive way, I am halfway through another fun filled adventure.The only question I have about GMC ownership is what is next on the horizon. And the wife declared today in front of witnesses that we like it and it is fun. Can not beat that.
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| Re: Original Drive Train [message #145957 is a reply to message #145903] |
Sun, 09 October 2011 06:00 |
chasingsummer
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i have 118k and adding. 455 all stock that i know of.
i bought sight un seen this past june, flew to iowa and drove home. lost ignition module, then created poor wiring connection.the black list and this forum is why i bought one. i know i can get the support i need. there are some very smart people on this site. Really nice too,
trip thru mountains a couple months back, maybe 500 or so miles round trip including 2 hours driving hard on the blue ridge parkway.
recently i did my timing chain and water pump. the old chain looked like it was a cheep replacement from stock who knows when. watr pump was slightly longer than stock but looked original.
i am planning a fishing trip to nc coast now. i would like to find some where i can just park and mind my own business for 3 days withing walking distance to salt water.
i know things can break, but i trust mine to take me anywhere. i am not sure about towing since the true specs i think only list 1000 lbs, but i do plan on towing trailer and 2 bikes to sturgis next august.
i think it mainly depends onhow the first owner ( and second if he used it much) took care of it, that was the person who showed it the most love, He had the most out of pocket money in it.
my 2 cents
bgk
brian
asheboro, nc
75 eleganza, 74 build
119k miles and counting,
DOG HOUSE
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