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Fri, 16 September 2011 21:35  |
ejuk8em
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Hi All,
I'm trying to upgrade the dash lights in The Stray Dog.... (using Ken Novak's upgrade) and have run into a couple of things that I think someone out there might have already encountered. Here is what I could use some help with.
[Note: we have the dash front plate out and the "hood" that goes behind the dash pad which allows us to see in behind the dash frame itself]
1. When we pull the headlight switch, the headlights and running lights come on, but not the dash lights. We did get them to come on momentarily by twisting the headlight switch (using the motion that increases/decreases how bright the gauge back lights are supposed to be). However, after coming on briefly, maybe 10 seconds the first time - and then only a couple of flickers since, we cannot get them to come on again. I've checked the fuses behind the glove box and all of them seem to be in order. We checked the wiring going into the headlight switch and everything seems to be seated firmly. I'm wondering if the light switch might be bad or needs to be taken apart and cleaned????
2. The kit suggests using the wiring suppling the light that previously provided illumination to the original fiber optic strand to power up the new unit. However, that circuit is dead. We have traced it back to the main wiring harness and everything appeared to be fine. I did not find an inline fuse anywhere in the wiring that went back to the main harness so that is not it. Does anyone know which fuse in the glove box this is connected to - or what we should check next?
3. Finally, when we started digging into the wiring behind the radio we discovered an unplugged straight, white, six wire male plug about an inch long - with the sequence of blue/yellow/green/green/yellow/blue wires. I've searched the back of everything we can see and I can't find anything it should be plugged into. Does anyone recognize what that might be for??
Any help, hints, suggestions are most welcome. DC electrical is not my long suit!
Take care and thanks,
Lyle
Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
'73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia "The Stray Dog"
Pawnee, IL 62558
Pawnee Pride - Live It!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems [message #143622 is a reply to message #143619] |
Fri, 16 September 2011 22:02  |
Ken Burton
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If the fuses are good, it is more than likely the rotary resistor built in to the headlight switch. You might clean it or get a whole new switch from AutoZone for around $25.00.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems [message #143653 is a reply to message #143619] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 16:09 |
jayrabe
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Not 100% sure, but I think the little fuse marked "No Pwr" in the picture is for the dash lights. I didn't find any power there because I was checking things without the headlights turned on.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37190&title=chassis-fuse-blocka&cat=5676
Jay
> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:35:48 -0700
> From: ejuk8em@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
>
> Hi All,
> I'm trying to upgrade the dash lights in The Stray Dog.... (using Ken Novak's upgrade) and have run into a couple of things that I think someone out there might have already encountered. Here is what I could use some help with.
> [Note: we have the dash front plate out and the "hood" that goes behind the dash pad which allows us to see in behind the dash frame itself]
>
> 1. When we pull the headlight switch, the headlights and running lights come on, but not the dash lights. We did get them to come on momentarily by twisting the headlight switch (using the motion that increases/decreases how bright the gauge back lights are supposed to be). However, after coming on briefly, maybe 10 seconds the first time - and then only a couple of flickers since, we cannot get them to come on again. I've checked the fuses behind the glove box and all of them seem to be in order. We checked the wiring going into the headlight switch and everything seems to be seated firmly. I'm wondering if the light switch might be bad or needs to be taken apart and cleaned????
>
> 2. The kit suggests using the wiring suppling the light that previously provided illumination to the original fiber optic strand to power up the new unit. However, that circuit is dead. We have traced it back to the main wiring harness and everything appeared to be fine. I did not find an inline fuse anywhere in the wiring that went back to the main harness so that is not it. Does anyone know which fuse in the glove box this is connected to - or what we should check next?
>
> 3. Finally, when we started digging into the wiring behind the radio we discovered an unplugged straight, white, six wire male plug about an inch long - with the sequence of blue/yellow/green/green/yellow/blue wires. I've searched the back of everything we can see and I can't find anything it should be plugged into. Does anyone recognize what that might be for??
>
> Any help, hints, suggestions are most welcome. DC electrical is not my long suit!
>
> Take care and thanks,
> Lyle
>
>
> Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
> '73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia "The Stray Dog"
> Pawnee, IL 62558
> Pawnee Pride - Live It!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems [message #143668 is a reply to message #143653] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 18:26 |
powerjon
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Jay,
Refresh my memory. What year and model is your coach? If you would
put this information in your signature line it makes helping so much
easier.
The small fuse marked "Inst LPS" is for your panel lights. It is
covered up by the white wire in your picture. It is the 4 amp fuse.
JR Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jay Rabe wrote:
>
> Not 100% sure, but I think the little fuse marked "No Pwr" in the
> picture is for the dash lights. I didn't find any power there
> because I was checking things without the headlights turned on.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37190&title=chassis-fuse-blocka&cat=5676
> Jay
>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:35:48 -0700
>> From: ejuk8em@yahoo.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I'm trying to upgrade the dash lights in The Stray Dog.... (using
>> Ken Novak's upgrade) and have run into a couple of things that I
>> think someone out there might have already encountered. Here is
>> what I could use some help with.
>> [Note: we have the dash front plate out and the "hood" that goes
>> behind the dash pad which allows us to see in behind the dash frame
>> itself]
>>
>> 1. When we pull the headlight switch, the headlights and running
>> lights come on, but not the dash lights. We did get them to come on
>> momentarily by twisting the headlight switch (using the motion that
>> increases/decreases how bright the gauge back lights are supposed
>> to be). However, after coming on briefly, maybe 10 seconds the
>> first time - and then only a couple of flickers since, we cannot
>> get them to come on again. I've checked the fuses behind the glove
>> box and all of them seem to be in order. We checked the wiring
>> going into the headlight switch and everything seems to be seated
>> firmly. I'm wondering if the light switch might be bad or needs to
>> be taken apart and cleaned????
>>
>> 2. The kit suggests using the wiring suppling the light that
>> previously provided illumination to the original fiber optic strand
>> to power up the new unit. However, that circuit is dead. We have
>> traced it back to the main wiring harness and everything appeared
>> to be fine. I did not find an inline fuse anywhere in the wiring
>> that went back to the main harness so that is not it. Does anyone
>> know which fuse in the glove box this is connected to - or what we
>> should check next?
>>
>> 3. Finally, when we started digging into the wiring behind the
>> radio we discovered an unplugged straight, white, six wire male
>> plug about an inch long - with the sequence of blue/yellow/green/
>> green/yellow/blue wires. I've searched the back of everything we
>> can see and I can't find anything it should be plugged into. Does
>> anyone recognize what that might be for??
>>
>> Any help, hints, suggestions are most welcome. DC electrical is not
>> my long suit!
>>
>> Take care and thanks,
>> Lyle
>>
>>
>> Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
>> '73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia "The Stray Dog"
>> Pawnee, IL 62558
>> Pawnee Pride - Live It!
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 30' Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems [message #143671 is a reply to message #143668] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 19:21 |
ejuk8em
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After a very helpful (and ok, I'll admit a bit embarrassing) phone call from Ken... I now know that the little fuse on the bottom of the panel that is marked "no power" in Jay's pic is for the dash panel lights. Upon closer inspection... I find that ours is blown. Sheesh!!! Somebody on the list said it first.. always check the simple stuff first!!!!
Take care,
Lyle
Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
'73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia - The Stray Dog
Pawnee, IL 62558
Pawnee Pride - Live It!
--- On Sat, 9/17/11, John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net> wrote:
From: John Wright <powerjon@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, September 17, 2011, 6:26 PM
Jay,
Refresh my memory. What year and model is your coach? If you would
put this information in your signature line it makes helping so much
easier.
The small fuse marked "Inst LPS" is for your panel lights. It is
covered up by the white wire in your picture. It is the 4 amp fuse.
JR Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jay Rabe wrote:
>
> Not 100% sure, but I think the little fuse marked "No Pwr" in the
> picture is for the dash lights. I didn't find any power there
> because I was checking things without the headlights turned on.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37190&title=chassis-fuse-blocka&cat=5676
> Jay
>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:35:48 -0700
>> From: ejuk8em@yahoo.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I'm trying to upgrade the dash lights in The Stray Dog.... (using
>> Ken Novak's upgrade) and have run into a couple of things that I
>> think someone out there might have already encountered. Here is
>> what I could use some help with.
>> [Note: we have the dash front plate out and the "hood" that goes
>> behind the dash pad which allows us to see in behind the dash frame
>> itself]
>>
>> 1. When we pull the headlight switch, the headlights and running
>> lights come on, but not the dash lights. We did get them to come on
>> momentarily by twisting the headlight switch (using the motion that
>> increases/decreases how bright the gauge back lights are supposed
>> to be). However, after coming on briefly, maybe 10 seconds the
>> first time - and then only a couple of flickers since, we cannot
>> get them to come on again. I've checked the fuses behind the glove
>> box and all of them seem to be in order. We checked the wiring
>> going into the headlight switch and everything seems to be seated
>> firmly. I'm wondering if the light switch might be bad or needs to
>> be taken apart and cleaned????
>>
>> 2. The kit suggests using the wiring suppling the light that
>> previously provided illumination to the original fiber optic strand
>> to power up the new unit. However, that circuit is dead. We have
>> traced it back to the main wiring harness and everything appeared
>> to be fine. I did not find an inline fuse anywhere in the wiring
>> that went back to the main harness so that is not it. Does anyone
>> know which fuse in the glove box this is connected to - or what we
>> should check next?
>>
>> 3. Finally, when we started digging into the wiring behind the
>> radio we discovered an unplugged straight, white, six wire male
>> plug about an inch long - with the sequence of blue/yellow/green/
>> green/yellow/blue wires. I've searched the back of everything we
>> can see and I can't find anything it should be plugged into. Does
>> anyone recognize what that might be for??
>>
>> Any help, hints, suggestions are most welcome. DC electrical is not
>> my long suit!
>>
>> Take care and thanks,
>> Lyle
>>
>>
>> Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
>> '73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia "The Stray Dog"
>> Pawnee, IL 62558
>> Pawnee Pride - Live It!
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems [message #143674 is a reply to message #143668] |
Sat, 17 September 2011 19:40 |
jayrabe
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Apologies Gene. Should know better by now ...
:-)
Jay Rabe
76 PB
Portland, OR
> From: powerjon@chartermi.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:26:13 -0400
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
>
> Jay,
> Refresh my memory. What year and model is your coach? If you would
> put this information in your signature line it makes helping so much
> easier.
> The small fuse marked "Inst LPS" is for your panel lights. It is
> covered up by the white wire in your picture. It is the 4 amp fuse.
>
> JR Wright
> GMC GreatLaker
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> 78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
> 1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
> On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jay Rabe wrote:
>
> >
> > Not 100% sure, but I think the little fuse marked "No Pwr" in the
> > picture is for the dash lights. I didn't find any power there
> > because I was checking things without the headlights turned on.
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37190&title=chassis-fuse-blocka&cat=5676
> > Jay
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:35:48 -0700
> >> From: ejuk8em@yahoo.com
> >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> >> Subject: [GMCnet] Help: Dash Light Upgrade Problems
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm trying to upgrade the dash lights in The Stray Dog.... (using
> >> Ken Novak's upgrade) and have run into a couple of things that I
> >> think someone out there might have already encountered. Here is
> >> what I could use some help with.
> >> [Note: we have the dash front plate out and the "hood" that goes
> >> behind the dash pad which allows us to see in behind the dash frame
> >> itself]
> >>
> >> 1. When we pull the headlight switch, the headlights and running
> >> lights come on, but not the dash lights. We did get them to come on
> >> momentarily by twisting the headlight switch (using the motion that
> >> increases/decreases how bright the gauge back lights are supposed
> >> to be). However, after coming on briefly, maybe 10 seconds the
> >> first time - and then only a couple of flickers since, we cannot
> >> get them to come on again. I've checked the fuses behind the glove
> >> box and all of them seem to be in order. We checked the wiring
> >> going into the headlight switch and everything seems to be seated
> >> firmly. I'm wondering if the light switch might be bad or needs to
> >> be taken apart and cleaned????
> >>
> >> 2. The kit suggests using the wiring suppling the light that
> >> previously provided illumination to the original fiber optic strand
> >> to power up the new unit. However, that circuit is dead. We have
> >> traced it back to the main wiring harness and everything appeared
> >> to be fine. I did not find an inline fuse anywhere in the wiring
> >> that went back to the main harness so that is not it. Does anyone
> >> know which fuse in the glove box this is connected to - or what we
> >> should check next?
> >>
> >> 3. Finally, when we started digging into the wiring behind the
> >> radio we discovered an unplugged straight, white, six wire male
> >> plug about an inch long - with the sequence of blue/yellow/green/
> >> green/yellow/blue wires. I've searched the back of everything we
> >> can see and I can't find anything it should be plugged into. Does
> >> anyone recognize what that might be for??
> >>
> >> Any help, hints, suggestions are most welcome. DC electrical is not
> >> my long suit!
> >>
> >> Take care and thanks,
> >> Lyle
> >>
> >>
> >> Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
> >> '73 Pineapple Yellow Sequoia "The Stray Dog"
> >> Pawnee, IL 62558
> >> Pawnee Pride - Live It!
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
> >> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> >> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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