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| Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142287] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 19:32  |
Chr$
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I finally got the time to finish my Rockwell Intake and Bounds Carb install. HOLY COW!!!!! I thought my coach had power before, but this is insane!. I took off down the street like a bat outta hell. Hopefully with this and the new vacuum lines to the distributor advance, I should pass emissions, and everyone else on the freeway as well.
I checked the advance, it works, so wish me luck.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142327 is a reply to message #142287] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 22:51  |
Carl S.
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| Chr$ wrote on Sat, 03 September 2011 17:32 |
I finally got the time to finish my Rockwell Intake and Bounds Carb install. HOLY COW!!!!! I thought my coach had power before, but this is insane!. I took off down the street like a bat outta hell. Hopefully with this and the new vacuum lines to the distributor advance, I should pass emissions, and everyone else on the freeway as well.
I checked the advance, it works, so wish me luck.
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Awesome news Chr$. That should make a noticeable difference in gas mileage too. It will be interesting to see how much. Both those items are on my list. Good luck on the emissions test. Hope you pass.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142430 is a reply to message #142287] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 08:35 |
Steven Ferguson
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Chris,
On 4/18/2011, Senate Bill 1324 was signed into law by our Gov. Why are you
emissions testing your historical vehicle?
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I finally got the time to finish my Rockwell Intake and Bounds Carb
> install. HOLY COW!!!!! I thought my coach had power before, but this is
> insane!. I took off down the street like a bat outta hell. Hopefully with
> this and the new vacuum lines to the distributor advance, I should pass
> emissions, and everyone else on the freeway as well.
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> I checked the advance, it works, so wish me luck.
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> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> Scottsdale, AZ
> "The Escape Pod" A 77 Ex-Kingsley Featuring: Olds 455, Manny Power Drive,
> 3:21, Rockwell, Jim B QJET, Quadra bag. Still needs paint!
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> Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142439 is a reply to message #142430] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 09:50 |
Chr$
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Steven, Is it now on the list? Last I checked, it was not. Also, my coach was due in March. Do I need to get antique plates? I currently have AZ Highways plates on the coach.
I'll check Service AZ again...
Thanks for the tip.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142442 is a reply to message #142287] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 10:00 |
Chr$
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Steve, they amended it to be 1974 and older for the across the board exemption, but there is a provision for 1996 and older if they are insured with classic car insurance like Haggarty. I'm checking out Hagarty now to see if it is even worth it. I have state farm on by coach.
I did spend over $600 on the carb and intake, so if it fails, I can get an exemption anyway.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142567 is a reply to message #142442] |
Tue, 06 September 2011 07:40 |
Steven Ferguson
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Here's a copy of the entire bill as passed and signed by our Gov.
http://e-lobbyist.com/gaits/text/238853
AA. For the purposes of this section, "collectible vehicle" means a vehicle
that complies with both of the following:
1. Either:
(a) Bears a model year date of original manufacture that is at least fifteen
years old.
(b) Is of unique or rare design, of limited production and an object of
curiosity.
2. Meets both of the following criteria:
(a) Is maintained primarily for use in car club activities, exhibitions,
parades or other functions of public interest or for a private collection
and is used only infrequently for other purposes.
(b) Has a collectible vehicle or classic automobile insurance coverage that
restricts the collectible vehicle mileage or use, or both, and requires the
owner to have another vehicle for personal use. END_STATUTE
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Steve, they amended it to be 1974 and older for the across the board
> exemption, but there is a provision for 1996 and older if they are insured
> with classic car insurance like Haggarty. I'm checking out Hagarty now to
> see if it is even worth it. I have state farm on by coach.
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> I did spend over $600 on the carb and intake, so if it fails, I can get an
> exemption anyway.
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> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> Scottsdale, AZ
> "The Escape Pod" A 77 Ex-Kingsley Featuring: Olds 455, Manny Power Drive,
> 3:21, Rockwell, Jim B QJET, Quadra bag. Still needs paint!
>
> Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142598 is a reply to message #142567] |
Tue, 06 September 2011 12:04 |
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 05:40 |
(b) Has a collectible vehicle or classic automobile insurance coverage that
restricts the collectible vehicle mileage or use, or both, and requires the
owner to have another vehicle for personal use. END_STATUTE
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Steve, 2.b is the problem. I take mine in for emissions because it says on my renewal form "Emission Test Required" It is a PITA, but not that big a deal. This year I cranked my MSD adjustable timing knob down all the way, and the coach passed with flying colors.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142600 is a reply to message #142287] |
Tue, 06 September 2011 12:20 |
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Do you think it is more to do with a properly tuned carb. or the extra performace due to the aluminum intake?
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142607 is a reply to message #142600] |
Tue, 06 September 2011 14:23 |
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| Jon wrote on Tue, 06 September 2011 10:20 |
Do you think it is more to do with a properly tuned carb. or the extra performace due to the aluminum intake?
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As the aluminum intake is the same design (in order to fit under the hatch) just missing the cross-over, there is no "extra preformance due to the aluminum intake." (Or so little that you couldn't feel it... except the lighter wallet!)
So if that was all that was changed... must be the correct carb.
Note: There are other reasons for the aluminum intake.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142660 is a reply to message #142287] |
Tue, 06 September 2011 23:50 |
Chr$
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Guys, see my details about passing emissions today in my other thread about vacuum. This carb performed better loaded than before the rebuild. It failed this morning because I failed to set the Idle high enough.
I plan to goto the MVD tomorrow to talk about the exemption. If I get the antique plates, that may do it, but those plates are kinda ugly, IMHO, and I have the AZ highways plates. They are cool.
The Classic insurance I looked at doesn't appear to cover "Camping type vehicles" so the insurance does me no damn good.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142684 is a reply to message #142442] |
Wed, 07 September 2011 11:33 |
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| Chr$ wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 08:00 |
Steve, they amended it to be 1974 and older for the across the board exemption, but there is a provision for 1996 and older if they are insured with classic car insurance like Haggarty. I'm checking out Hagarty now to see if it is even worth it. I have state farm on by coach.
I did spend over $600 on the carb and intake, so if it fails, I can get an exemption anyway.
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I tried every classic car insurer out there and plead my case for covering collector motorhomes, but no luck. I did go the collector car route on the 77 Celica GT Liftback I'm restoring and for $80 a year I got it covered and tagged legally. Of course in it's current state it's a little rough for the streets of Ahwatukee.
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142714 is a reply to message #142287] |
Wed, 07 September 2011 18:27 |
Chr$
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The carb gave me the better performance, not the intake. just no more vacuum leaks internally also probably helped.
Was at MVD today. No dice. the plate doesn't guarantee the no emissions test, and they are still running under the rules that 1966 and older only. so much for legislation. Of course, there is the collector car plate, but the GMC MH is not on the collector car list. Assholes. I died a little bit today having to sit in that filthy place for an hour.
Steve lives in Sierra Vista, which probably has no emissions req like Sedona, which is where I'll be registering next year at my mom's place.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!! [message #142715 is a reply to message #142714] |
Wed, 07 September 2011 19:08 |
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Chr$,
I swapped the Holley carb on Double Trouble for a Dick Paterson Q-jet and the performance improved, however, when I swapped the OEM
distributor for one of his re-curved distributors it made a bigger difference than the carb!
I do know that both the vacuum and mechanical advance in the OEM distributor was working properly therefore it had to be the way he
sets up the advance curve. The initial setting is 12° and at max mechanical and vacuum its 40° total.
Here's the spec's on the dizzie (Aussie):
Distributor Specifications
Type: HEI - Modified
Application: GMC Motorhome
Engine: 455 Oldsmobile
Final drive: 3.07
Tow: No
Initial setting: 12° @ 600 RPM
RPM Advance
Centrifugal
800 2°
1000 5°
1250 10°
1500 12°
1750 13°
2000 14°
2250 16°
2500 18° 30° = Total
Vacuum
6" 0°
8" 2°
10" 6°
12" 10° 40° = Initial + Centrifugal + Vacuum
BTW I have Dick's permission to publish this info.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Choffat
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 9:28 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Holy Secondaries!!!!
The carb gave me the better performance, not the intake. just no more vacuum leaks internally also probably helped.
Was at MVD today. No dice. the plate doesn't guarantee the no emissions test, and they are still running under the rules that 1966
and older only. so much for legislation. Of course, there is the collector car plate, but the GMC MH is not on the collector car
list. Assholes. I died a little bit today having to sit in that filthy place for an hour.
Steve lives in Sierra Vista, which probably has no emissions req like Sedona, which is where I'll be registering next year at my
mom's place.
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-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
"The Escape Pod" A 77 Ex-Kingsley Featuring: Olds 455, Manny Power Drive, 3:21, Rockwell, Jim B QJET, Quadra bag. Still needs
paint!
Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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