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Jiffyjet2 is currently offline  Jiffyjet2   United States
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On our second outing in the Pumpkin, I tried to raise the rear end to level the coach and waited for the pump to cut in and do it's thing. No action, so a quick look under the hood revealed a melted inline 30 amp fuse. I took the fuse block out and direct wired it and it started pumping...and pumping...and pumping, even though the pressure was about 140. I rapped on the Penn regulator with the end of my flash light, and it quit. Obviously, the regulator is sticking. This regulator is the original type that used to bolt on top of the pump, however, the PO changed the pump for a red colored Super Flow MV-50. I have a new Viair from Jim K and a new regulator, however, I'd like to keep this system working 'til the weather changes before I redo the air system. My question is this. Can the Penn regulator be fixed, or is it just a waste of time?
Thanks


Jess '74 Canyonlands "the Great Pumpkin" Tacoma, Washington
Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142070 is a reply to message #142067] Fri, 02 September 2011 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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New regulators are cheap. Just go to McMaster Carr, order one, and install it.

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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142077 is a reply to message #142070] Fri, 02 September 2011 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Part number? Tom

Going to Goshen, yes, we are.


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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142079 is a reply to message #142077] Fri, 02 September 2011 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fred v is currently offline  fred v   United States
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go to Home Depot and get an air compressor pressure switch for 20 bucks.


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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142089 is a reply to message #142067] Fri, 02 September 2011 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jiffyjet2 wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 01:30

On our second outing in the Pumpkin, I tried to raise the rear end to level the coach and waited for the pump to cut in and do it's thing. No action, so a quick look under the hood revealed a melted inline 30 amp fuse. I took the fuse block out and direct wired it and it started pumping...and pumping...and pumping, even though the pressure was about 140. I rapped on the Penn regulator with the end of my flash light, and it quit. Obviously, the regulator is sticking. This regulator is the original type that used to bolt on top of the pump, however, the PO changed the pump for a red colored Super Flow MV-50. I have a new Viair from Jim K and a new regulator, however, I'd like to keep this system working 'til the weather changes before I redo the air system. My question is this. Can the Penn regulator be fixed, or is it just a waste of time?
Thanks


Jess,

That is not called a regulator. It is called a pressure switch or a compressor control switch.

Can it can it be fixed?
Probably, but it is not worth messing with.
Grainger 5B419 - 23.12

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Air Pressure Regulator [message #142090 is a reply to message #142089] Fri, 02 September 2011 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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> That is not called a regulator.  It is called a pressure switch or a compressor control switch.
>

here is some poop
http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/levelsch.htm#power

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Re: [GMCnet] Air Pressure Regulator [message #142093 is a reply to message #142089] Fri, 02 September 2011 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,

That Ornamental vendor out in Fremont has a better deal!

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/816

$19.98 WITH the unloader!

For those of you who don't know what an unloader is - it vents the pump outlet to ambient so when it starts up it doesn't have to
fight 140 psi (pressure switch setting). However, it will require installing a "T" fitting in between the pump outlet and the check
valve that prevents air from flowing back into the pump from the air tank when it shuts off.

I know; I know Viair has a label on the outlet hose that says not to remove the outlet hose as there's special sealant or some other
reason. Ignore that and put in a "T". It's like the labels on mattresses and pillows! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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Jess,

That is not called a regulator. It is called a pressure switch or a compressor control switch.

Can it can it be fixed?
Probably, but it is not worth messing with.
Grainger 5B419 - 23.12

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] Air Pressure Regulator [message #142101 is a reply to message #142067] Fri, 02 September 2011 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There was no regulator in the air system on the on the GMC. There was
a pressure switch that is supposed to turn the compressor on and
off. The typical set point was on at 95 psi and off ant aprox 125
psi. The pressure switch is available at most hardware store and
GMCMI newsletter has several articles on them, see I45,P3, I46, P3 and
I63.P4 (That is issue and Page)
Grainger list this pressure switch which is commonly available at your
hardware store also. This is the one that I have seen in most coaches

<http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=3x682&op=search&Ntt=3x682&N=0&sst=subset
>

J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
Newsletter Editor/Publisher
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
75 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:30 AM, Jiffyjet2 wrote:

>
>
> On our second outing in the Pumpkin, I tried to raise the rear end
> to level the coach and waited for the pump to cut in and do it's
> thing. No action, so a quick look under the hood revealed a melted
> inline 30 amp fuse. I took the fuse block out and direct wired it
> and it started pumping...and pumping...and pumping, even though the
> pressure was about 140. I rapped on the Penn regulator with the end
> of my flash light, and it quit. Obviously, the regulator is
> sticking. This regulator is the original type that used to bolt on
> top of the pump, however, the PO changed the pump for a red colored
> Super Flow MV-50. I have a new Viair from Jim K and a new
> regulator, however, I'd like to keep this system working 'til the
> weather changes before I redo the air system. My question is this.
> Can the Penn regulator be fixed, or is it just a waste of time?
> Thanks
>
> --
> Jess
> '74 Canyonlands
> "the Great Pumpkin"
> Tacoma, Washington
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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142103 is a reply to message #142067] Fri, 02 September 2011 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jiffyjet2 wrote on Thu, 01 September 2011 22:30

On our second outing in the Pumpkin, I tried to raise the rear end to level the coach and waited for the pump to cut in and do it's thing. No action, so a quick look under the hood revealed a melted inline 30 amp fuse. I took the fuse block out and direct wired it and it started pumping...and pumping...and pumping, even though the pressure was about 140. I rapped on the Penn regulator with the end of my flash light, and it quit. Obviously, the regulator is sticking. This regulator is the original type that used to bolt on top of the pump, however, the PO changed the pump for a red colored Super Flow MV-50. I have a new Viair from Jim K and a new regulator, however, I'd like to keep this system working 'til the weather changes before I redo the air system. My question is this. Can the Penn regulator be fixed, or is it just a waste of time?
Thanks



Look here for the adjustments on an original Penn pressure switch. But, as others have said, not very expensive to simply replace it.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=15410&cat=4335


Rob Allen
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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142115 is a reply to message #142103] Fri, 02 September 2011 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for all the info. As I said in my querie, I have a new pump and pressure switch from Jim K as well as a new stainless tank, filter, relief valve, separator, etc. But I want to put off completely redoing the system for a few months and just wanted to know if there was a bandage I could apply to the Penn to get a few more trips out of it. Looks I'll just have to keep a hammer handy in case the Penn sticks again! Very Happy

Jess '74 Canyonlands "the Great Pumpkin" Tacoma, Washington
Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142118 is a reply to message #142079] Fri, 02 September 2011 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Same thing. Get one with the unloader. They are about $2.00 extra. You can use the unloader or forget it. Also you can install it now and connect up the unloader later. It is only one hose connection.

Ken


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Re: Air Pressure Regulator [message #142130 is a reply to message #142115] Fri, 02 September 2011 15:40 Go to previous message
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Jiffyjet2 wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 12:15

Thanks for all the info. As I said in my querie, I have a new pump and pressure switch from Jim K as well as a new stainless tank, filter, relief valve, separator, etc. But I want to put off completely redoing the system for a few months and just wanted to know if there was a bandage I could apply to the Penn to get a few more trips out of it. Looks I'll just have to keep a hammer handy in case the Penn sticks again! Very Happy


Jess,

It is not a big job to change out the pressure switch. There is no reason you can't do that now, then take it back off and switch it to your new tank later.


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