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Just curious [message #140565] Mon, 22 August 2011 21:19 Go to next message
Smitty52 is currently offline  Smitty52   United States
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What is the weight difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? For some reason I have been curious about that.

Thanks


Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140570 is a reply to message #140565] Mon, 22 August 2011 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne,

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_motorhome

Quote

Gross vehicle weight rating for the 23-foot (7.0 m) coach was 11,500 pounds (5,200 kg) and 12,500 pounds (5,700 kg) for the 26-foot
(7.9 m) coach.

Unquote

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Rob M.


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What is the weight difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? For some reason I have been curious about that.

Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140571 is a reply to message #140565] Mon, 22 August 2011 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne,

Go th the http://www.gmcmi.com/ site.

Click on models and you will see all the floor plans.

On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Wayne E LaMothe wrote:

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> What is the weight difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? For some reason I have been curious about that.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140573 is a reply to message #140570] Mon, 22 August 2011 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've ran my '73 230 across truck scales a number of times and fully
loaded come in around #10,000. No way those scales are off by #1500 and
I don't know what I'm doing to weigh less.

Then again, is GVW the maximum weight vs the actual weight?

Kelvin


> Wayne,
>
> Here you go:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_motorhome
>
> Quote
>
> Gross vehicle weight rating for the 23-foot (7.0 m) coach was 11,500 pounds (5,200 kg) and 12,500 pounds (5,700 kg) for the 26-foot
> (7.9 m) coach.
>
> Unquote
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> What is the weight difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? For some reason I have been curious about that.
>
> Thanks

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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140574 is a reply to message #140573] Mon, 22 August 2011 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kelvin Dietz wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 20:47

I've ran my '73 230 across truck scales a number of times and fully
loaded come in around #10,000. No way those scales are off by #1500 and
I don't know what I'm doing to weigh less.




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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140576 is a reply to message #140573] Mon, 22 August 2011 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's the maximum, no direct relation to actual.

Ken H.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:

> I've ran my '73 230 across truck scales a number of times and fully
> loaded come in around #10,000. No way those scales are off by #1500 and
> I don't know what I'm doing to weigh less.
>
> Then again, is GVW the maximum weight vs the actual weight?
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Re: Just curious [message #140604 is a reply to message #140565] Tue, 23 August 2011 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Smitty52 wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 22:19

What is the weight difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? For some reason I have been curious about that.

Thanks

Wayne,

If the number Ken B recorded are to be believed (I have doubt of some). Vehicle weight is highly variable. Shortly before we departed on our first excursion, the coach crossed a local scale at 9460# - Full Fuel, some water, clothing and some provisions. Ours is a GMC fit (Gemini) with plywood interior. The later coaches were particle board and that added at least 350#. And that is for a 23' at the end of '73.

It is easy for me to believe that the newer coaches 3' longer could be real close to 11k dry.

Matt


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Re: Just curious [message #140636 is a reply to message #140604] Tue, 23 August 2011 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the info. I saw the WIKI info and was wondering if the dry weight was 1000lbs difference and that was reflected in the GVWR being 1000lbs different.

Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
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Re: Just curious [message #140640 is a reply to message #140565] Tue, 23 August 2011 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Smitty52 wrote on Mon, 22 August 2011 19:19

... difference between the 23 and 26 foot models? ...


About three feet...



... and 2000lbs.

My 1973 26 foot, GM up-fitted side bath, weighs in just under 12,000lbs. My 1978 rear bath, Coachman upfitted, Birchaven is just over 10,000lbs. Both loaded about the same. I have not weighed the 1977... but it isn't a complete, usable coach so that weight isn't useful to this discussion.

Note that the extra space in the 26 foot often leads it to be loaded more than the 23 foot coaches.

Other differences:

The 23 foot is much easier to park and turns a little tighter. As it "fits" in a normal parking spot (as long as you watch the area around the door) it helps to have the option to park on the "car side" of rest areas, especially at night when the trucks fill the other side. I have been told it is easier to pull the motor out the top of a 23.

Most 26 foot coaches have more storage space and three "seating/bed" areas. (Compared to the two areas in the 23 foot coaches.)

If you only have a "need" for 2 "seating/bed" areas, I would recommend the shorter, lighter, easier to maneuver coach.


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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140641 is a reply to message #140640] Tue, 23 August 2011 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many 26' owners entering our 23' for the first time exclaim "this is so much
bigger than ours". It's because of the rear bath an my remodeling which
enlarged the right side window and eliminated the "wine cabinet". We don't
want a 26' -- gave the one we had to our son.

This gives some feel for the arrangement (the captains' chairs and table
have now been replaced with a sofa):
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=451&cat=3055

Ken H.


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:

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> ...
> If you only have a "need" for 2 "seating/bed" areas, I would recommend the
> shorter, lighter, easier to maneuver coach.
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140659 is a reply to message #140641] Tue, 23 August 2011 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really neat, Ken, but if you have ditched the
captain chairs and tables, where do you eat?

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> From: hend4800@bellsouth.net
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:12:06 -0400
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Just curious
>
> Many 26' owners entering our 23' for the first time exclaim "this is so much
> bigger than ours". It's because of the rear bath an my remodeling which
> enlarged the right side window and eliminated the "wine cabinet". We don't
> want a 26' -- gave the one we had to our son.
>
> This gives some feel for the arrangement (the captains' chairs and table
> have now been replaced with a sofa):
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=451&cat=3055
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > ...
> > If you only have a "need" for 2 "seating/bed" areas, I would recommend the
> > shorter, lighter, easier to maneuver coach.

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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140679 is a reply to message #140659] Tue, 23 August 2011 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Either on the gas powered dining table:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3329

or on the cockpit table for quickies:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24363&title=another-view-of-the-ex&cat=4899

http://goo.gl/QLStT

or, my lap, if I have my way. :-)

Ken H.


On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

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> Really neat, Ken, but if you have ditched the
> captain chairs and tables, where do you eat?
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #140973 is a reply to message #140679] Thu, 25 August 2011 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, are those ramco mirrors in the background of you computer photos?

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On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Either on the gas powered dining table:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3329
>
> or on the cockpit table for quickies:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24363&title=another-view-of-the-ex&cat=4899
>
> http://goo.gl/QLStT
>
> or, my lap, if I have my way. :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com
> >wrote:
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> >
> > Really neat, Ken, but if you have ditched the
> > captain chairs and tables, where do you eat?
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Just curious [message #141006 is a reply to message #140973] Thu, 25 August 2011 21:45 Go to previous message
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Not this one:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=459&cat=3055


But this one is:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=11997&cat=4054



Ken H.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Todd Sullivan <sgltrac@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken, are those ramco mirrors in the background of you computer photos?
>
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