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| [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140344] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 19:54  |
mjbourgon
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Hi all
When I had blow out on recent trip longest part was waiting for service truck to come and change spare tire. After looking at situation I see all i need is a breaker bar, a 1 1/16 socket and a 7/8" socket. What are you guys using for a jack. would like something small and easy to stow
All ideas would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Marcel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140352 is a reply to message #140344] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 20:41  |
GeorgeRud
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JimK sells a nice small bottle jack as well as the jack hooks that allow you to raise the coach and change a tire.
I'd also recommend getting a piece of pipe that fits over the handle of the breaker bar as it does take some "oomph" to get the lugnuts off and then properly tightened after changing the tire.
George Rudawsky
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| jack hook safety [message #140363 is a reply to message #140352] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 22:35 |
bukzin
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When using the jack hooks, be sure they are all the way
inserted into the slots in the coach before lifting.
One of mine slipped out, broke the jack hook and nearly
removed my arm.
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140370 is a reply to message #140344] |
Sun, 21 August 2011 23:21 |
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Marcel:
Here's an email I submitted a couple of weeks ago:
I just created an album with photos and drawings of the Ford and Torin dual stage (two stage ram) jacks.
You can find it here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5846
To answer the next question; where did I get them:
I bought four new Ford Jacks from Ken Robinson at a GMCMI Convention somewhere. The one I have here in Sydney has a tag noting $35.
Someone has noted that "you" can buy them at a surplus shop somewhere in Elkhart, Indiana for $12 each. Since Elkhart, Indiana is
about 900 miles from Humble, Texas I reckon paying Ken the extra was cost effective. I spotted one on eBay but the guy was nuts, he
wanted $79 for it! USED!
The Torin Jacks are available from Applied GMC and Northern Tool. There is a two ton version of the Torin jack that looks exactly
like the four ton.
I also have the following items for jacking up the GMC with these tools:
1) Two Bogie hooks and a front crossmember jack plate from Terry Skinner
2) Four pieces of 3/4 plywood to put under the jacks on grass
3) Two Ragusa RV-105 Wedge Blocks that fit in the square holes in the bottom of the bogies
AFAIK Harbor Freight doe not sell dual stage bottle jacks.
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: marcel bourgon
Hi all
When I had blow out on recent trip longest part was waiting for service truck to come and change spare tire. After looking at
situation I see all i need is a breaker bar, a 1 1/16 socket and a 7/8" socket. What are you guys using for a jack. would like
something small and easy to stow
All ideas would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Marcel
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140386 is a reply to message #140370] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 06:45 |
Mr ERFisher
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> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5846
>
What a fun album
would be good to put some "search-able" words in the titles, and some
info as to why, and how these are valuable to the GMC community ( for
future generations ;>)
great post
gene
> To answer the next question; where did I get them:
>
> I bought four new Ford Jacks from Ken Robinson at a GMCMI Convention somewhere. The one I have here in Sydney has a tag noting $35.
> Someone has noted that "you" can buy them at a surplus shop somewhere in Elkhart, Indiana for $12 each. Since Elkhart, Indiana is
> about 900 miles from Humble, Texas I reckon paying Ken the extra was cost effective. I spotted one on eBay but the guy was nuts, he
> wanted $79 for it! USED!
>
> The Torin Jacks are available from Applied GMC and Northern Tool. There is a two ton version of the Torin jack that looks exactly
> like the four ton.
>
> I also have the following items for jacking up the GMC with these tools:
>
> 1) Two Bogie hooks and a front crossmember jack plate from Terry Skinner
> 2) Four pieces of 3/4 plywood to put under the jacks on grass
> 3) Two Ragusa RV-105 Wedge Blocks that fit in the square holes in the bottom of the bogies
>
> AFAIK Harbor Freight doe not sell dual stage bottle jacks.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marcel bourgon
>
> Hi all
> When I had blow out on recent trip longest part was waiting for service truck to come and change spare tire. After looking at
> situation I see all i need is a breaker bar, a 1 1/16 socket and a 7/8" socket. What are you guys using for a jack. would like
> something small and easy to stow
> All ideas would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Marcel
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140388 is a reply to message #140386] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 07:08 |
mjbourgon
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Thanks guys
Just emailed Jim Bounds this morning to order jack and hook. Putting
together a small first aid coach case. Jack, sockets, breaker bar, jack,
ground shoe and items for distributor and extra electrical fuel pump. Most
of these small anoyances could be fixed on the road very quickly now that I
have experienced the problems. Went to Alaska Last year, 10,000 miles and
no problems. Live and learn. A real good instruction on the distributor
would be as good thing for all.
Thanks again to all for the help
Marcel in Hot, but DRY El Paso
----- Original Message -----
From: "gene Fisher" <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 04:45
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5846
>
What a fun album
would be good to put some "search-able" words in the titles, and some
info as to why, and how these are valuable to the GMC community ( for
future generations ;>)
great post
gene
> To answer the next question; where did I get them:
>
> I bought four new Ford Jacks from Ken Robinson at a GMCMI Convention
> somewhere. The one I have here in Sydney has a tag noting $35.
> Someone has noted that "you" can buy them at a surplus shop somewhere in
> Elkhart, Indiana for $12 each. Since Elkhart, Indiana is
> about 900 miles from Humble, Texas I reckon paying Ken the extra was cost
> effective. I spotted one on eBay but the guy was nuts, he
> wanted $79 for it! USED!
>
> The Torin Jacks are available from Applied GMC and Northern Tool. There is
> a two ton version of the Torin jack that looks exactly
> like the four ton.
>
> I also have the following items for jacking up the GMC with these tools:
>
> 1) Two Bogie hooks and a front crossmember jack plate from Terry Skinner
> 2) Four pieces of 3/4 plywood to put under the jacks on grass
> 3) Two Ragusa RV-105 Wedge Blocks that fit in the square holes in the
> bottom of the bogies
>
> AFAIK Harbor Freight doe not sell dual stage bottle jacks.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marcel bourgon
>
> Hi all
> When I had blow out on recent trip longest part was waiting for service
> truck to come and change spare tire. After looking at
> situation I see all i need is a breaker bar, a 1 1/16 socket and a 7/8"
> socket. What are you guys using for a jack. would like
> something small and easy to stow
> All ideas would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Marcel
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140402 is a reply to message #140388] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 08:05 |
Jim Bounds
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I was happy that everything went well with marcell's "time of need". I do this a great deal for folks. One of the great features of the GMC is the "support group" and community that comes along with having a GMC. As Marcel pointed out, I am a firm beliver in having "contingency" plans for things that can happen to systems you rely upon on the open road. It's important to have "countermeasures' when things happen out there on the superslab.
I promote backups on the fuel delivery system of a second electric fuel pump on the aux tank plumbed to the front tank & wired to the "aux. fuel" switch. I suggest having a module, coil & pickup which make up pretty much every part that normally will fail in your ignition system and a way to test for power to the dist plus a couple of tools to replace them. A way to jack up a wheel would be nice but really if you had roadside assistance let the tow driver lump that tire while you have a beer-- just have a cell phone with service, a tow service and a charge card. There are a few more pieces/parts you can carry that don;t require a trailer-- small silly stuff you may never need after you are prepared (Murphy's garlic necklace).
As marcel did, you need to look at issues on the road as part of the experience and roll with it all. Good show Marcel, you made it and any trip that gets you there and back again is a good one!
Jim Bounds
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----- Original Message -----
From: marcel bourgon <mjbourgon@earthlink.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Cc:
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road
Thanks guys
Just emailed Jim Bounds this morning to order jack and hook. Putting
together a small first aid coach case. Jack, sockets, breaker bar, jack,
ground shoe and items for distributor and extra electrical fuel pump. Most
of these small anoyances could be fixed on the road very quickly now that I
have experienced the problems. Went to Alaska Last year, 10,000 miles and
no problems. Live and learn. A real good instruction on the distributor
would be as good thing for all.
Thanks again to all for the help
Marcel in Hot, but DRY El Paso
----- Original Message -----
From: "gene Fisher" <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 04:45
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road
> You can find it here:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5846
>
What a fun album
would be good to put some "search-able" words in the titles, and some
info as to why, and how these are valuable to the GMC community ( for
future generations ;>)
great post
gene
> To answer the next question; where did I get them:
>
> I bought four new Ford Jacks from Ken Robinson at a GMCMI Convention
> somewhere. The one I have here in Sydney has a tag noting $35.
> Someone has noted that "you" can buy them at a surplus shop somewhere in
> Elkhart, Indiana for $12 each. Since Elkhart, Indiana is
> about 900 miles from Humble, Texas I reckon paying Ken the extra was cost
> effective. I spotted one on eBay but the guy was nuts, he
> wanted $79 for it! USED!
>
> The Torin Jacks are available from Applied GMC and Northern Tool. There is
> a two ton version of the Torin jack that looks exactly
> like the four ton.
>
> I also have the following items for jacking up the GMC with these tools:
>
> 1) Two Bogie hooks and a front crossmember jack plate from Terry Skinner
> 2) Four pieces of 3/4 plywood to put under the jacks on grass
> 3) Two Ragusa RV-105 Wedge Blocks that fit in the square holes in the
> bottom of the bogies
>
> AFAIK Harbor Freight doe not sell dual stage bottle jacks.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marcel bourgon
>
> Hi all
> When I had blow out on recent trip longest part was waiting for service
> truck to come and change spare tire. After looking at
> situation I see all i need is a breaker bar, a 1 1/16 socket and a 7/8"
> socket. What are you guys using for a jack. would like
> something small and easy to stow
> All ideas would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Marcel
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140418 is a reply to message #140402] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 09:11 |
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Add both a flat plate for under the bottle jack, and either jack stands, or blocking material to your list and you are good to go.
Flat plate for soft ground, Rob's suggestion of plywood squares is excellent, easy to do and easy on the pocket book. Ragusa also makes an aluminum plate for this function. Blocking material to catch the coach, if it comes off the jack, or the jack fails. Simple as chunks of 4 x 4, or 6 x 6, and an odd 2 x 4 piece, or as elaborate as jack stands. Think how fast a GMC can be attracted to the ground by gravity. I'm sure that Rob can figure the drop speed, and how fast the clearance under the coach will close.
I carry all of the above.
Tom Phipps,
not an engineer, but know bunches of them.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140420 is a reply to message #140418] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 09:27 |
Robin Hood
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S=1/2(a)(t^2).
.33m=1/2(10m/s^2)(t^2)
.66m=10m/s^2(t^2)
.066/s^2=(t^2)
.257s=t
So about a quarter of a second to fall 13 inches or so.
If I ever go back to school, I want to be a physicist. :)
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Add both a flat plate for under the bottle jack, and either jack stands, or blocking material to your list and you are good to go.
> Flat plate for soft ground, Rob's suggestion of plywood squares is excellent, easy to do and easy on the pocket book. Ragusa also makes an aluminum plate for this function. Blocking material to catch the coach, if it comes off the jack, or the jack fails. Simple as chunks of 4 x 4, or 6 x 6, and an odd 2 x 4 piece, or as elaborate as jack stands. Think how fast a GMC can be attracted to the ground by gravity. I'm sure that Rob can figure the drop speed, and how fast the clearance under the coach will close.
> I carry all of the above.
>
> Tom Phipps,
> not an engineer, but know bunches of them.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140514 is a reply to message #140423] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 18:39 |
Ken Henderson
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I sure wouldn't do that let the air out trick! ESPECIALLY if they're steel
side walls. Forevermore after that exercise, that tire will be the most
likely one to blow out because of the stress on the sidewalls where the
coach rests on them.
Ken H.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey;
>
> Try this. When you get your jack-hook and bottle jack, let the air
> out of one of the bogie tires and drop the suspension on that side and
> see if you can get the jack-hook and bottle jack to fit. When a tire
> blows it usually drops to the rim and it can take out the air line to
> the bag (talking stock system here). Lat year when I had a tire blow
> out, the jack-hook and bottle jack wouldn't fit under the coach. Had
> to use the original jack to swing the old tire off and the spare back
> on. Just a thought.
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Jacking up coach on the road [message #140551 is a reply to message #140535] |
Mon, 22 August 2011 19:56 |
Ken Henderson
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No, I didn't miss the point, which is certainly valid: Most jack hooks, and
jacks, won't work with a flat tire. That's why I have a little stubby one
to put under the frame to lift the bogie just enough to get the hook and
jack in place. Even that sometimes requires digging out a little dirt.
What I wanted to be sure of is that no one damages a sidewall by
intentionally letting all the air out.
Ken H.
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Gary Berry <duallycc@gmail.com> wrote:
> See, you missed the point all together...
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > I sure wouldn't do that let the air out trick! ESPECIALLY if they're
> steel
> > side walls. Forevermore after that exercise, that tire will be the most
> > likely one to blow out because of the stress on the sidewalls where the
> > coach rests on them.
> >
> > Ken H.
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