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[GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139833] Thu, 18 August 2011 14:39 Go to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Does anyone have direct experience removing the bearings from the Wallace 3
bearing front hubs, or have plans for a bearing puller for them? I am
repairing a 1977 Eleganza II 26 footer that is equipped with them. The front
brake rotors are beyond service limits and need to be replaced, therefore
the bearings need to be pulled from the hub. The conventional Thoma type
pullers will not work due to the hub's design. All responses will be
appreciated. Thanks
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139839 is a reply to message #139833] Thu, 18 August 2011 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

If I had that problem, I'd call Bill Bramlett or Ken Rose. I don't know if
either of them has ever touched a Wallace hub, but their the best candidates
I know.

Ken H.


On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have direct experience removing the bearings from the Wallace 3
> bearing front hubs, or have plans for a bearing puller for them? I am
> repairing a 1977 Eleganza II 26 footer that is equipped with them. The
> front
> brake rotors are beyond service limits and need to be replaced, therefore
> the bearings need to be pulled from the hub. The conventional Thoma type
> pullers will not work due to the hub's design. All responses will be
> appreciated. Thanks
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139845 is a reply to message #139839] Thu, 18 August 2011 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, thank you for your timely response. One of our GMC Cascaders who has
Wallace hubs on his coach made his own puller for the hubs and is passing
through Salem on Sat & will drop it off so I can use it. Problem solved
thanks to the GMC Forum. Ain't it great!!.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Jim,
>
> If I had that problem, I'd call Bill Bramlett or Ken Rose. I don't know if
> either of them has ever touched a Wallace hub, but their the best
> candidates
> I know.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have direct experience removing the bearings from the Wallace
> 3
> > bearing front hubs, or have plans for a bearing puller for them? I am
> > repairing a 1977 Eleganza II 26 footer that is equipped with them. The
> > front
> > brake rotors are beyond service limits and need to be replaced, therefore
> > the bearings need to be pulled from the hub. The conventional Thoma type
> > pullers will not work due to the hub's design. All responses will be
> > appreciated. Thanks
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139853 is a reply to message #139845] Thu, 18 August 2011 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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could replace them with a "one ton" VII kit , for about the same
effort, which has new :
hubs,
knuckles
rotors
cv joints
boots
calipers
bearings
bushings

and will not need an more service for over 200,000 miles ;>)

gene

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ken, thank you for your timely response. One of our GMC Cascaders who has
> Wallace hubs on his coach made his own puller for the hubs and is passing
> through Salem on Sat & will drop it off so I can use it. Problem solved
> thanks to the GMC Forum. Ain't it great!!.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, OR
> 78 GMC Royale 403
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> If I had that problem, I'd call Bill Bramlett or Ken Rose.  I don't know if
>> either of them has ever touched a Wallace hub, but their the best
>> candidates
>> I know.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone have direct experience removing the bearings from the Wallace
>> 3
>> > bearing front hubs, or have plans for a bearing puller for them? I am
>> > repairing a 1977 Eleganza II 26 footer that is equipped with them. The
>> > front
>> > brake rotors are beyond service limits and need to be replaced, therefore
>> > the bearings need to be pulled from the hub. The conventional Thoma type
>> > pullers will not work due to the hub's design. All responses will be
>> > appreciated. Thanks
>> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139869 is a reply to message #139853] Thu, 18 August 2011 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene, what I would do if it were mine. The Owner is "fairly frugal" and only
wants to replace the rotors that were eaten up by running the pads down to
the metal backings. He wanted to just replace the linings on the tore up
rotors and I refused to do that, so he agreed to the rotors. Life is full of
choices, I guess.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:50 PM, gene Fisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:

> could replace them with a "one ton" VII kit , for about the same
> effort, which has new :
> hubs,
> knuckles
> rotors
> cv joints
> boots
> calipers
> bearings
> bushings
>
> and will not need an more service for over 200,000 miles ;>)
>
> gene
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:35 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ken, thank you for your timely response. One of our GMC Cascaders who has
> > Wallace hubs on his coach made his own puller for the hubs and is passing
> > through Salem on Sat & will drop it off so I can use it. Problem solved
> > thanks to the GMC Forum. Ain't it great!!.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, OR
> > 78 GMC Royale 403
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> If I had that problem, I'd call Bill Bramlett or Ken Rose. I don't know
> if
> >> either of them has ever touched a Wallace hub, but their the best
> >> candidates
> >> I know.
> >>
> >> Ken H.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:39 PM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Does anyone have direct experience removing the bearings from the
> Wallace
> >> 3
> >> > bearing front hubs, or have plans for a bearing puller for them? I am
> >> > repairing a 1977 Eleganza II 26 footer that is equipped with them. The
> >> > front
> >> > brake rotors are beyond service limits and need to be replaced,
> therefore
> >> > the bearings need to be pulled from the hub. The conventional Thoma
> type
> >> > pullers will not work due to the hub's design. All responses will be
> >> > appreciated. Thanks
> >> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139915 is a reply to message #139869] Thu, 18 August 2011 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jim,

I just looked at this brochure on Bdub's website and noted that the Wallace
hubs have a grease "cert."

http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings1.htm

In fact it appears that they have TWO grease zerks; one is located in the
housing outboard of the third bearing (see photos Unit 1 and Unit 3). The
second is located in the knuckle (see photo Unit 2).

It seems to me that this is better setup for greasing the bearings than a
single zerk in the knuckle. The zerk in the third bearing housing would
flush old grease out of the third bearing and outer OEM bearing. You then
connect the grease gun to the zerk in the knuckle.

However, I can't tell if there is enough clearance between the brake rotor
and the fitting to get a grease gun adapter in there. It stands to reason
that you should be able to do that or why bother to put the zerk there.

Regards,
Rob M.


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Gene, what I would do if it were mine. The Owner is "fairly frugal" and only
wants to replace the rotors that were eaten up by running the pads down to
the metal backings. He wanted to just replace the linings on the tore up
rotors and I refused to do that, so he agreed to the rotors. Life is full of
choices, I guess.
Jim



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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139938 is a reply to message #139915] Thu, 18 August 2011 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Thu, 18 August 2011 21:04

Jim,

I just looked at this brochure on Bdub's website and noted that the Wallace
hubs have a grease "cert."

http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings1.htm

In fact it appears that they have TWO grease zerks; one is located in the
Regards,
Rob M.





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My coach has Wallace hubs and I have had the Knuckle off to install ball joints and mine have one grease zerk per knuckle.


Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI, Just LOVE It!
Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139940 is a reply to message #139938] Thu, 18 August 2011 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Rob
> My coach has Wallace hubs and I have had the Knuckle off to install ball joints and mine have one grease zerk per knuckle.

yup, that is what my brochure said

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/wallace1.html


gene

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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #139970 is a reply to message #139940] Fri, 19 August 2011 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,

Here's a link to a Wallace brochure on Bdub's site:

http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings1.htm

Here's a link to a picture I cropped out of that brochure:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40230

Here's a link to a picture of Chuck Boyd's knuckle with the zerk inserted:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=35781

As I noted in photo 40230 above I thought the part in the square was a zerk.

Larry,

Do your Wallace Hubs have something there?

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #140273 is a reply to message #139970] Sat, 20 August 2011 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 19 August 2011 04:30

Gene,

Here's a link to a Wallace brochure on Bdub's site:

http://www.bdub.net/publications/Wallace_Bearings/Wallace_Bearings1.htm

Here's a link to a picture I cropped out of that brochure:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=40230

Here's a link to a picture of Chuck Boyd's knuckle with the zerk inserted:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=35781

As I noted in photo 40230 above I thought the part in the square was a zerk.

Larry,

Do your Wallace Hubs have something there?

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia

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Rob,
I don't know what that is but it sure looks like the zerk fitting. I know mine has one fitting and it is about in this location as shown in foto IF I remember correctly.




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Re: [GMCnet] Wallace Hub Bearing Puller [message #140282 is a reply to message #140273] Sat, 20 August 2011 22:50 Go to previous message
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Jim,

You've got a GMC there with the Wallace hubs that you're going to
disassemble, could you take a picture of them and post them as it would
clear this up.

Regards,
Rob

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Rob,

I don't know what that is but it sure looks like the zerk fitting. I know
mine has one fitting and it is about in this location as shown in foto IF I
remember correctly.

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