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Gary Mau is currently offline  Gary Mau   United States
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Has anyone identified a more user friendly valve stem, suitable for use with the Eagle Wheels?

Gary Mau
Former 76 Royale owner
Davenport, IA
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135585 is a reply to message #135566] Fri, 22 July 2011 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.Gary.
I have been working on this
for for some time.There is no stock unit to fit it as
I have tried all stock units with bends and length,
Weld wheels had the same issue, but put in their own bent unit
Looks like that is what will be done here.




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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135588 is a reply to message #135585] Fri, 22 July 2011 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 17:23

.Gary.
I have been working on this
for for some time.There is no stock unit to fit it as
I have tried all stock units with bends and length,
Weld wheels had the same issue, but put in their own bent unit
Looks like that is what will be done here.




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as anyone identified a more user friendly valve stem, suitable for use
with the Eagle Wheels?
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Jim, did you come up with anything for the rusty hub covers and lug nuts? mine look awful.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135593 is a reply to message #135566] Fri, 22 July 2011 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,

Sorry, don't understand what you mean by "user friendly."

I have NO experience with Eagle wheels, the best I can do for you is provide
the link below to Haltec's catalog page for valve stems that fit the Alcoa
wheels. Suggest you check with JimK to see if the valve stem hole in Eagles
is the same as Alcoa's (9.7mm).

http://www.haltec.com/webdev/2004Catalog/31.pdf

Note: the TV-540 series seal with an O-ring, the TV-550 series seal with a
grommet. If you run Equal or Counteract balancing powder in your wheels the
TV-550 series WILL accept the filtered Schrader valves, the TV-540 series
will not!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135605 is a reply to message #135588] Fri, 22 July 2011 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fred v wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 15:35

... did you come up with anything for the rusty hub covers and lug nuts? mine look awful.


I just never installed the covers. With shiny dust covers it looks pretty good. I do get a little rust but it looks like it is coming from the washers, not the nuts.


But you where asking Jim.... he has this on the web site:
<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/972>


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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135623 is a reply to message #135593] Fri, 22 July 2011 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 17:43

Gary,

Sorry, don't understand what you mean by "user friendly."

I have NO experience with Eagle wheels, the best I can do for you is provide
the link below to Haltec's catalog page for valve stems that fit the Alcoa
wheels. Suggest you check with JimK to see if the valve stem hole in Eagles
is the same as Alcoa's (9.7mm).

http://www.haltec.com/webdev/2004Catalog/31.pdf

Note: the TV-540 series seal with an O-ring, the TV-550 series seal with a
grommet. If you run Equal or Counteract balancing powder in your wheels the
TV-550 series WILL accept the filtered Schrader valves, the TV-540 series
will not!

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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the Eagle rim center is different and they put the hole pointing straight toward the wheel center. you have to have an air nozzle with the ball shaped 90 deg. end in order to stick it through the hole and reach the valve stem. a 90 deg. stem seems to work OK.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135624 is a reply to message #135605] Fri, 22 July 2011 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike Miller wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 19:29

fred v wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 15:35

... did you come up with anything for the rusty hub covers and lug nuts? mine look awful.


I just never installed the covers. With shiny dust covers it looks pretty good. I do get a little rust but it looks like it is coming from the washers, not the nuts.


But you where asking Jim.... he has this on the web site:
<http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/972>

someone said Jim had a recall from Eagle for these chrome ones. i'm not paying another 60 bucks per wheel.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135634 is a reply to message #135588] Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fred,
Go to our web site and you'll see that we have SS 304 center caps and nuts.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, ALWAYS CALL.
The original caps and nuts come from Redd China. The wheels are made here.
If you have not figured it out by now, contact us and we will resolve
problems to satisfy both sides.
We have a special program to where we will send you the SS centers and
huts and have you return the Crap from Red China
for minimal cost.

If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design,I
would have done so by now.
People at American Eagle think I'm crazy.
Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard
valve can do so and I will give you $500



c

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:35 PM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 17:23
>> .Gary.
>> I have been working on this
>> for for some time.There is no stock unit to fit it as
>> I have tried all stock units with bends and length,
>> Weld wheels had the same issue, but put in their own bent unit
>> Looks like that is what will be done here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >  H
>>
>> as anyone identified a more user friendly valve stem, suitable for use
>> with the Eagle Wheels?
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>> > 76 Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135647 is a reply to message #135634] Sat, 23 July 2011 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07

Fred,


If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I would have done so by now. People at American Eagle think I'm crazy. Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard valve can do so and I will give you $500



Send me a check and I'll tell you how to do it. Or maybe I'll just corner the market and not tell you.

Actually, I bought some angle extensions at Quartzsite in January of 2010 that take care of the job beautifully. I'll see if I can find a reference to them somewhere on line.

They look like these only mine are chrome.
http://www.wheel-weight.com/Angled-Metal-Valve-Extension-170.html

I'll keep looking.

Ken B.


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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135648 is a reply to message #135647] Sat, 23 July 2011 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 03:25

jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07

Fred,


If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I would have done so by now. People at American Eagle think I'm crazy. Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard valve can do so and I will give you $500



Send me a check and I'll tell you how to do it. Or maybe I'll just corner the market and not tell you.

Actually, I bought some angle extensions at Quartzsite in January of 2010 that take care of the job beautifully. I'll see if I can find a reference to them somewhere on line.

They look like these only mine are chrome.
http://www.wheel-weight.com/Angled-Metal-Valve-Extension-170.html

I'll keep looking.

Ken B.

Here is another place but the price is a little steep:
http://rvdiscountsuppliers.com/rv-parts-rv-wheel-accessories.htm

http://rvdiscountsuppliers.com/rv-parts-rv-wheel-accessories.htm

I found a complete valve in China but it was for the smaller .453" diameter hole and had a minimum of 10,000 piece order.


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135649 is a reply to message #135647] Sat, 23 July 2011 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 03:25

jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07

Fred,


If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I would have done so by now. People at American Eagle think I'm crazy. Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard valve can do so and I will give you $500



Send me a check and I'll tell you how to do it. Or maybe I'll just corner the market and not tell you.

Actually, I bought some angle extensions at Quartzsite in January of 2010 that take care of the job beautifully. I'll see if I can find a reference to them somewhere on line.

They look like these only mine are chrome.
http://www.wheel-weight.com/Angled-Metal-Valve-Extension-170.html

I'll keep looking.

Ken B.


Here are some on ebay at $5 + when you throw it the shipping:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-Tire-Valve-Extensions-90-degree-bend-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35b3c0ab79QQitemZ230649015161QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTru ckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories






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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135662 is a reply to message #135647] Sat, 23 July 2011 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken B,

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On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07
>> If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I would have done so by now.  People at American Eagle think I'm crazy.  Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard  valve can do so and I will give you $500
>
> Send me a check and I'll tell you how to do it.   Or maybe I'll just corner the market and not tell you.
...
> http://www.wheel-weight.com/Angled-Metal-Valve-Extension-170.html
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135672 is a reply to message #135647] Sat, 23 July 2011 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Sat, 23 July 2011 03:25

jimk wrote on Fri, 22 July 2011 23:07

Fred,


If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I would have done so by now. People at American Eagle think I'm crazy. Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard valve can do so and I will give you $500



Send me a check and I'll tell you how to do it. Or maybe I'll just corner the market and not tell you.

Actually, I bought some angle extensions at Quartzsite in January of 2010 that take care of the job beautifully. I'll see if I can find a reference to them somewhere on line.

They look like these only mine are chrome.
http://www.wheel-weight.com/Angled-Metal-Valve-Extension-170.html

I'll keep looking.

Ken B.

Ken, i tried extensions and they leak badly.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135673 is a reply to message #135634] Sat, 23 July 2011 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote snip

We have a special program to where we will send you the SS centers and
huts and have you return the Crap from Red China
for minimal cost.

If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design,I
would have done so by now.
People at American Eagle think I'm crazy.
Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard
valve can do so and I will give you $500

[/quote]
thanks Jim, i'll call.

Jim, you sent me some right angle stems that worked perfect.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135681 is a reply to message #135634] Sat, 23 July 2011 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I sent the following to Jim OFF NET earlier so I could change the message to
HTML format and include a copy of the page out of the Haltec Tire Valve
catalog with the details of the valve stems listed below.

Regards,
Rob M.

**********************************************************************

Jim,

I took this off net so I could change the email format from plain text to
HTML which allowed me to paste in a picture of the section in the Haltec
catalog.

If you haven't tried the following it's worth a shot.

If the diameter of the hole in the wheel for the valve stem is 9.7 mm
(0.3818886 in / Drill Letter V = 0.3770).

I would suggest you contact:

Myers Tires
Oakland Distribution Center
15003 Wicks Blvd
San Leandro CA, 94577

Phone: 510-632-3404
Toll free: 800-292-4687 CA
Fax: 510-632-8679

Order:

1 ea TV-553C

1 ea TV-553E

1 ea TV-554D

They are about $4.00 each.

Try each one of them to see which one fits best. If none of them work
you're probably only out $20 (including tax and shipping).

As we used to say in Saigon when some asshole would try to buy a pot
when we played poker; "for 20 bucks; "I'd watch to monkeys screw for $20!"

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kanomata

If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I
would have done so by now.

People at American Eagle think I'm crazy.

Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard
valve can do so and I will give you $500

Jim Kanomata

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Re: Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135700 is a reply to message #135566] Sat, 23 July 2011 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim K:
"We have a special program to where we will send you the SS centers and huts and have you return the Crap from Red China
for minimal cost."

Jim, I bought a set of 7 eagle wheels and have the same problems others are having with the rust coming mostly from the washers and lug nuts. I love the wheels but the rust destroys the look and it is very frustrating after having spent so much money for the wheels.

Can you explain what your exchange program is for us?

I also see the "eagle" scroll on the hubcaps on the website but I got plain chrome look caps. Are these another accessory, are they chrome or SS ?

Michael

Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135782 is a reply to message #135672] Sun, 24 July 2011 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't had any problem mine. You much have bought those cheap Chinese ones.



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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135835 is a reply to message #135681] Sun, 24 July 2011 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have done that, no results after spending lots of time and funds.
Solution is to bend a longer straight stem.



On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I sent the following to Jim OFF NET earlier so I could change the message to
> HTML format and include a copy of the page out of the Haltec Tire Valve
> catalog with the details of the valve stems listed below.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> **********************************************************************
>
> Jim,
>
> I took this off net so I could change the email format from plain text to
> HTML which allowed me to paste in a picture of the section in the Haltec
> catalog.
>
> If you haven't tried the following it's worth a shot.
>
> If the diameter of the hole in the wheel for the valve stem is 9.7 mm
> (0.3818886 in / Drill Letter V = 0.3770).
>
> I would suggest you contact:
>
> Myers Tires
> Oakland Distribution Center
> 15003 Wicks Blvd
> San Leandro CA, 94577
>
> Phone: 510-632-3404
> Toll free: 800-292-4687 CA
> Fax: 510-632-8679
>
> Order:
>
> 1 ea TV-553C
>
> 1 ea TV-553E
>
> 1 ea TV-554D
>
> They are about $4.00 each.
>
> Try each one of them to see which one fits best. If none of them work
> you're probably only out $20 (including tax and shipping).
>
> As we used to say in Saigon when some asshole would try to buy a pot
> when we played poker; "for 20 bucks; "I'd watch to monkeys screw for $20!"
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kanomata
>
> If it was so easy as to replace the valve stem with another design, I
> would have done so by now.
>
> People at American Eagle think I'm crazy.
>
> Anyone out there that can show me how to solve it with a standard
> valve can do so and I will give you $500
>
> Jim Kanomata
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135850 is a reply to message #135700] Sun, 24 July 2011 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I keep seeing notes that folks are having trouble with rust from lug
nuts & washers. I haven't had the problem, perhaps because my Alcoa
nuts are phosphated or otherwise blackened. But if I did have a
rusting problem, I'd try what I've done on most rust problems for the
past 20 years: use Extend to coat them. For those not familiar with
it, Extend is a tannin and vinyl based rust conversion solution.
Applied sloppily with a brush, sponge, or spray, it looks like 1%
milk. When it dries, the iron-based object is pretty uniformly black,
especially where there was any surface rust. A top coat of enamel
will provide more protection, but I've left steel item exposed to the
weather for years without top coating and with no further rusting.

Here's more info: http://www.alan.net/prgshoptips/rustconv.html

HTH,

Ken H.


On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 11:39 AM, MICHAEL FOSTER <mfoster356@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
...
> Jim, I bought a set of 7 eagle wheels and have the same problems others are having with the rust coming mostly from the washers and lug nuts.  I love the wheels but the rust destroys the look and it is very frustrating after having spent so much money for the wheels.
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Re: [GMCnet] Eagle Wheel Valve Stems [message #135871 is a reply to message #135835] Sun, 24 July 2011 19:29 Go to previous message
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Jim,

I kinda figger'd that but thought I'd give it a shot anyway.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kanomata

I have done that, no results after spending lots of time and funds.
Solution is to bend a longer straight stem.

Jim

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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