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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131953 is a reply to message #131951] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 11:14   |
Ken Henderson
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Dan,
All GMC's came with the TH425 transmission, a variant of the same one
used in the Olds Toronado and the Cad Eldorado from 1966 to 1978.
For the sake of organization, it's always best to start a new subject
thread, by creating a completely new message, rather than "hijacking"
an existing thread on another subject. Thanks.
Ken H.
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <dan6@cox.net> wrote:
> Anyone know what auto transmission was provided in the 76 Eleganza II?
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131960 is a reply to message #131947] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 11:52 |
storm'n
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Thank you Rob. BTW my daughter just got into Toronto for 2 weeks from Brisbain, she said it's cold there.
Regards, Norm.
, June 25, 2011, 11:19 AM
Norm,
I forwarded this to Bill Bryant to see if he has it in his library. The $100
is a bit steep.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] GMC history
Anybody interested in this?
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131965 is a reply to message #131953] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 12:20 |
dan6
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Ken,
thanks for the info.
Being new to this site, I don't know how to create new messages.
Can you advise,
thanks again,
Dan
---- Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Dan,
>
> All GMC's came with the TH425 transmission, a variant of the same one
> used in the Olds Toronado and the Cad Eldorado from 1966 to 1978.
>
> For the sake of organization, it's always best to start a new subject
> thread, by creating a completely new message, rather than "hijacking"
> an existing thread on another subject. Thanks.
>
> Ken H.
>
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> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <dan6@cox.net> wrote:
> > Anyone know what auto transmission was provided in the 76 Eleganza II?
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131969 is a reply to message #131939] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 12:37 |
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I always thought it might have worked for him. But what would they cost today??
I like the dash in the drawing but I would have tried to change the window glass. I don't mind a pillar where the side glass comes together to meet the front glass. And if it cuts the price of a window down, even better.
I thought I read the molds for the panels are rusting, perhaps beyond recovery now. And is the process even available anymore to make those panels???
With what we know today, the body frame needs to be beefed up to prevent the old age bulge, which makes our doors look like they do not fit the door frame anymore.
Maybe even the vehicle frame beefed up a bit.
And good insulation with windows with reflective tint to keep the heat out.
Just dreaming
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131974 is a reply to message #131960] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 13:27 |
jimk
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Dan,
were here to help, not to slap your hand.
They tollerate me as they know I will never learn.
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:
> Thank you Rob. BTW my daughter just got into Toronto for 2 weeks from Brisbain, she said it's cold there.
> Â Â Regards, Norm.
>
>
> , June 25, 2011, 11:19 AM
>
>
> Norm,
>
> I forwarded this to Bill Bryant to see if he has it in his library. The $100
> is a bit steep.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Norm Bowker
> Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2011 10:54 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] GMC history
>
> Anybody interested in this?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m656&
> item=120741726781&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D895562550121904739
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131994 is a reply to message #131969] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 17:46 |
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From a regulatory point of view. Can you manufacture something 35 years old, or must it meet today's requirements? The Ford V-10 Triton with the 4EOD set beside it would be a natural. Wonder what it would cost to build the chain case and final drive castings......
--johnny
--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC history
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 5:37 PM
I always thought it might have worked for him. But what would they cost today??
I like the dash in the drawing but I would have tried to change the window glass. I don't mind a pillar where the side glass comes together to meet the front glass. And if it cuts the price of a window down, even better.
I thought I read the molds for the panels are rusting, perhaps beyond recovery now. And is the process even available anymore to make those panels???
With what we know today, the body frame needs to be beefed up to prevent the old age bulge, which makes our doors look like they do not fit the door frame anymore.
Maybe even the vehicle frame beefed up a bit.
And good insulation with windows with reflective tint to keep the heat out.
Just dreaming
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74 GLACIER X, 260
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #131999 is a reply to message #131974] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 18:17 |
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I don't think anyone ever started out to defraud (I'm tired of the word
Scam) anyone of anything. People have dreams and if they can get enough
investors on board, others who buy into the dream, there is a chance that
success will follow.
Guys like John DeLorean, Preston Tucker, and the Dodge Brothers had a dream
in mind, not a Scam !
Mike in NS
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dan,
> were here to help, not to slap your hand.
> They tollerate me as they know I will never learn.
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Norm Bowker <bowks43@rogers.com> wrote:
> > Thank you Rob. BTW my daughter just got into Toronto for 2 weeks from
> Brisbain, she said it's cold there.
> > Regards, Norm.
> >
> >
> > , June 25, 2011, 11:19 AM
> >
> >
> > Norm,
> >
> > I forwarded this to Bill Bryant to see if he has it in his library. The
> $100
> > is a bit steep.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > Sydney, Australia
> > AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Norm Bowker
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2011 10:54 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: [GMCnet] GMC history
> >
> > Anybody interested in this?
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.m656&
> > item=120741726781&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D895562550121904739
> > _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132007 is a reply to message #131994] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 19:33 |
Larry C
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Understanding how the car test stations work, it would have to meet todays standards.
Should not be that tough, there are good choices. I am unsure if the front wheel drive can be continued today, but I don't know whats available.
thoughts
Gatsbys' CRUISER 08-18-04
74 GLACIER X, 260/455-APC-4 Bagg'r
Remflex Manifold gaskets
CampGrounds needed, Add yours to "PLACES" />
http://www.gmceast.com/travel
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132009 is a reply to message #131999] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 19:45 |
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| Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 25 June 2011 16:17 |
I don't think anyone ever started out to defraud (I'm tired of the word
Scam) anyone of anything. People have dreams and if they can get enough
investors on board, others who buy into the dream, there is a chance that
success will follow.
Guys like John DeLorean, Preston Tucker, and the Dodge Brothers had a dream
in mind, not a Scam !
Mike in NS
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When I had my GMC, and about 2006, I was camping in a Forest Service Campground on highway 12 in Idaho. A fellow came over to talk, and about GMC's. It was Don Wheat, and a nicer guy you could not ever meet. He told me he had all the financing lined up, had a factory leased, and without warning one of the banks involved pulled the 7 to 10 million line of credit he had established (I can't recall the exact number). Was totally out of his control and killed the project.
He (at that time) owned a plant which manufactured high line truck campers in Oregon, again the name is also gone from me now. He still owned a GMC then, but was camping in one of his truck campers.
Yes, he had a dream, and it did not come to pass, but even years later when I talked to him, I had no feeling whatsoever that the dream was a scam.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132013 is a reply to message #132007] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 20:00 |
jhbridges
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Well, you got to wonder... is there room in there for a 3208 (Cat) and a T4 Allison like you see in smaller busses? You'd have to work out the drive axles, but it would make a hell of a coach.
--johnny
--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC history
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 12:33 AM
Understanding how the car test stations work, it would have to meet todays standards.
Should not be that tough, there are good choices. I am unsure if the front wheel drive can be continued today, but I don't know whats available.
thoughts
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74 GLACIER X, 260
455/APC/4 bagg'r(ver3)
Remflex Manifold gaskets
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132015 is a reply to message #132009] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 20:05 |
Kingsley Coach
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Rob
I think Don owns the following:
http://www.alaskancamper.com/
They're extremely popular with the rugged outdoorsy type ....and speaking of
guys with a dream who just had a series of events that foiled them, there's
always Malcolm Bricklin..a one time neighbour..sort of.
Mike
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Rob Allen <profmail@wildblue.net> wrote:
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 25 June 2011 16:17
> > I don't think anyone ever started out to defraud (I'm tired of the word
> > Scam) anyone of anything. People have dreams and if they can get enough
> > investors on board, others who buy into the dream, there is a chance that
> > success will follow.
> > Guys like John DeLorean, Preston Tucker, and the Dodge Brothers had a
> dream
> > in mind, not a Scam !
> >
> > Mike in NS
>
>
> When I had my GMC, and about 2006, I was camping in a Forest Service
> Campground on highway 12 in Idaho. A fellow came over to talk, and about
> GMC's. It was Don Wheat, and a nicer guy you could not ever meet. He told
> me he had all the financing lined up, had a factory leased, and without
> warning one of the banks involved pulled the 7 to 10 million line of credit
> he had established (I can't recall the exact number). Was totally out of
> his control and killed the project.
>
> He (at that time) owned a plant which manufactured high line truck campers
> in Oregon, again the name is also gone from me now. He still owned a GMC
> then, but was camping in one of his truck campers.
>
> Yes, he had a dream, and it did not come to pass, but even years later when
> I talked to him, I had no feeling whatsoever that the dream was a scam.
>
> --
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> former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132017 is a reply to message #131965] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 20:48 |
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Dan,
1) Put gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org in your email address book.
2) Create a "new" message in you email program.
3) Paste gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org into the To.. field.
4) Make sure the message is a Plain Text message.
5) Complete the Subject: Line
6) Complete the body of the message.
7) Hit Send
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of dan6@cox.net
Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 3:21 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Cc: Ken Henderson
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC history
Ken,
thanks for the info.
Being new to this site, I don't know how to create new messages.
Can you advise,
thanks again,
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132022 is a reply to message #131999] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 21:15 |
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC history
Sat, 25 June 2011 19:17
Kingsley Coach
I don't think anyone ever started out to defraud (I'm tired of the word
Scam) anyone of anything. People have dreams and if they can get enough
investors on board, others who buy into the dream, there is a chance that
success will follow.
Guys like John DeLorean, Preston Tucker, and the Dodge Brothers had a dream
in mind, not a Scam !
Mike in NS
>
>
Mike, I believe you are correct, Don Wheat really did try to make the Wheat Motorhome, but lost his financial backing along the way.
Now, "the rest of the story" (you didn't really expect me to let this pass without some comments did you ;^)
GMC was looking for someone to sell the motorhome rights to. I was told that AM General built 2 prototypes and decided not to preceed any further (have no idea what happened to them, probably scrapped them so the development effort could be written off.
Next was Don Wheat, he in fact had hired several ex-GMC execs. as key people. He spent some time finding a location to manufacture his MH and ended up at Rancho Cucomuga, CA. He never actually completed a WMC MH, but bought 2 GMCs from I believe Tony Bell (Jim Bounds might know more). At first he said the WMC was going to use the GM 454, later the word was he would use the Ford 460.
I spoke with Don W several years ago, he sounded like he was trying to still revive the WMC, ever the consumate salesman.
NOTE: Don't forget that GMC built a coach with a TRANSVERSE 454 (turn it around and you don't have to worry about running a shaft thru the oil pan. (see page 313 of my history CD for several options GMC was looking at.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC history [message #132026 is a reply to message #132017] |
Sat, 25 June 2011 21:34 |
dan6
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-got it,
thanks.
--- Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Dan,
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> 1) Put gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org in your email address book.
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> 2) Create a "new" message in you email program.
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> 3) Paste gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org into the To.. field.
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> 4) Make sure the message is a Plain Text message.
>
> 5) Complete the Subject: Line
>
> 6) Complete the body of the message.
>
> 7) Hit Send
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of dan6@cox.net
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 3:21 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Ken Henderson
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC history
>
> Ken,
> thanks for the info.
> Being new to this site, I don't know how to create new messages.
> Can you advise,
> thanks again,
> Dan
>
>
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