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| [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #130539] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 08:14  |
bdub
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FYI
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come along.
bdub . (fat chance)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #130558 is a reply to message #130555] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 09:37  |
peabody
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Colorado Does !! Can't get no good gas.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
> From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:30:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
>
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> Yes, but some states have their OWN ethanol mandates.
> However, if the ethanol is not subsidized by $ .45
> per gallon, the price of E10 will rise to the point
> where it is economically unviable and thus unsalable.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> > From: bdub@bdub.net
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:14:07 -0500
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> >
> > FYI
> >
> > www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
> >
> >
> >
> > Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come along.
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> > bdub . (fat chance)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #130570 is a reply to message #130558] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 10:43 |
k2gkk
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If/when Coloradans start having to pay
an added 50 cents per gallon and start
raising hell with their legislators,
just watch that state mandate disappear!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
lizzie1243@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:37:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
>
>
> Colorado Does !! Can't get no good gas.
>
>
> William S. Schurman
> P.O. 773325
> Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> 970-846-4212
> '78 Palm Beach
>
>
>
>
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> > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:30:11 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> >
> >
> > Yes, but some states have their OWN ethanol mandates.
> > However, if the ethanol is not subsidized by $ .45
> > per gallon, the price of E10 will rise to the point
> > where it is economically unviable and thus unsalable.
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > From: bdub@bdub.net
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:14:07 -0500
> > > Subject: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > >
> > > FYI
> > >
> > > www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come along.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > bdub . (fat chance)
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131652 is a reply to message #130570] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 10:23 |
peabody
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A recent editorial in the DENVER POST stated that the US Senate voted overwhelmingly to stop the ethanol subsidy. While it may not happen this time the subsidy will not be renewed when it comes up for renewal in the near future. Watch the lobbyists scramble.
BTW: the corn raised on my farm goes to feed chickens in the Carolinas.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass 7% Grade
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
'90 SHO
'66 912
> From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:43:07 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
>
>
> If/when Coloradans start having to pay
> an added 50 cents per gallon and start
> raising hell with their legislators,
> just watch that state mandate disappear!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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> lizzie1243@hotmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:37:18 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> >
> >
> > Colorado Does !! Can't get no good gas.
> >
> >
> > William S. Schurman
> > P.O. 773325
> > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> > 970-846-4212
> > '78 Palm Beach
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:30:11 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, but some states have their OWN ethanol mandates.
> > > However, if the ethanol is not subsidized by $ .45
> > > per gallon, the price of E10 will rise to the point
> > > where it is economically unviable and thus unsalable.
> > >
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > From: bdub@bdub.net
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:14:07 -0500
> > > > Subject: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > >
> > > > FYI
> > > >
> > > > www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come along.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > bdub . (fat chance)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131662 is a reply to message #131652] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 11:16 |
Kingsley Coach
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What??
Bill, are you saying your corn gives chickens gas? <g>
Mike in NS
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM, bill schurman <lizzie1243@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> A recent editorial in the DENVER POST stated that the US Senate voted
> overwhelmingly to stop the ethanol subsidy. While it may not happen this
> time the subsidy will not be renewed when it comes up for renewal in the
> near future. Watch the lobbyists scramble.
> BTW: the corn raised on my farm goes to feed chickens in the Carolinas.
>
>
> William S. Schurman
> P.O. 773325
> Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass 7% Grade
> 970-846-4212
> '78 Palm Beach
> '90 SHO
> '66 912
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:43:07 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> >
> >
> > If/when Coloradans start having to pay
> > an added 50 cents per gallon and start
> > raising hell with their legislators,
> > just watch that state mandate disappear!
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> >
> > lizzie1243@hotmail.com
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:37:18 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > >
> > >
> > > Colorado Does !! Can't get no good gas.
> > >
> > >
> > > William S. Schurman
> > > P.O. 773325
> > > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> > > 970-846-4212
> > > '78 Palm Beach
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:30:11 -0500
> > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but some states have their OWN ethanol mandates.
> > > > However, if the ethanol is not subsidized by $ .45
> > > > per gallon, the price of E10 will rise to the point
> > > > where it is economically unviable and thus unsalable.
> > > >
> > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > > > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > > > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > > > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > > > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > > > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > > > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > > > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > From: bdub@bdub.net
> > > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:14:07 -0500
> > > > > Subject: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI
> > > > >
> > > > >
> www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come
> along.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > bdub . (fat chance)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131668 is a reply to message #131662] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 12:00 |
peabody
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BIG GRIN. Very clever. Are you drinking that hi test Canadian beer ?????
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
'90 SHO
'66 912
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:16:12 -0300
> From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
>
> What??
> Bill, are you saying your corn gives chickens gas? <g>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:23 PM, bill schurman <lizzie1243@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > A recent editorial in the DENVER POST stated that the US Senate voted
> > overwhelmingly to stop the ethanol subsidy. While it may not happen this
> > time the subsidy will not be renewed when it comes up for renewal in the
> > near future. Watch the lobbyists scramble.
> > BTW: the corn raised on my farm goes to feed chickens in the Carolinas.
> >
> >
> > William S. Schurman
> > P.O. 773325
> > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass 7% Grade
> > 970-846-4212
> > '78 Palm Beach
> > '90 SHO
> > '66 912
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:43:07 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > >
> > >
> > > If/when Coloradans start having to pay
> > > an added 50 cents per gallon and start
> > > raising hell with their legislators,
> > > just watch that state mandate disappear!
> > >
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > lizzie1243@hotmail.com
> > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:37:18 -0600
> > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Colorado Does !! Can't get no good gas.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > William S. Schurman
> > > > P.O. 773325
> > > > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > > > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> > > > 970-846-4212
> > > > '78 Palm Beach
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: k2gkk@hotmail.com
> > > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 09:30:11 -0500
> > > > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but some states have their OWN ethanol mandates.
> > > > > However, if the ethanol is not subsidized by $ .45
> > > > > per gallon, the price of E10 will rise to the point
> > > > > where it is economically unviable and thus unsalable.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > > > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > > > > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > > > > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > > > > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > > > > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > > > > ~~ ~ ~ (TZE166V101966) ~ ~ ~~
> > > > > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > > > > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------------------------------
> > > > > > From: bdub@bdub.net
> > > > > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 08:14:07 -0500
> > > > > > Subject: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/16/senate-strikes-at-ethanol-handout/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hopefully the beginning of the end if something dumber doesn't come
> > along.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bdub . (fat chance)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131767 is a reply to message #131652] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 22:19 |
Surbo
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| peabody wrote on Thu, 23 June 2011 10:23 |
BTW: the corn raised on my farm goes to feed chickens in the Carolinas.
William S. Schurman
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Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass 7% Grade
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Howdy;
For those not familiar with ethanol production and the thinking that the corn is wasted for production of ethanol, and there will be an acute food shortage by using corn for this purpose, here is some short facts about DDG. The local feedlots in my area take the DDG wet, or what we call 'mash'. It will keep for several weeks, both winter and summer, and is like candy to the livestock. In 2010, one farmer fed 131 people, and the claim that the corn producers gets the ethanol subsidy is false. Ethanol is blended by the FUEL producers, as demanded by the US Gov, and THEY recieve the subsidy.
Distillers Grain
Distillers grain is an important co-product of drymill ethanol production. Drymill ethanol production process uses only the starch portion of the corn, which is about 70% of the kernel. All the remaining nutrients - protein, fat, minerals, and vitamins - are concentrated into distillers grain, a valuable feed for livestock. A bushel of corn weighs 56 pounds and will produce at least 2.8 gallons of ethanol and 17 pounds of distillers grain.
Distillers grain can be fed to livestock wet or dry. Dried distillers grain (DDG) is the most common variety. Drying the distillers grain increases its shelf life and improves its ability to be transported over longer distances. If a consistent nearby market can be secured, ethanol producers can supply the feed as wet distillers grain (WDG). The wet form is not as easily transportable, but the cost of drying the product is removed.
Dried distillers grain with solubles (DDGS) is the form available to the feed industry. The liquid that is separated from the mash during the distilling process is partially dehydrated into a syrup, then added back onto the dried distillers grain to create DDGS.
DDGS is a high quality feedstuff ration for dairy cattle, beef cattle, swine, poultry, and aquaculture. The feed is an economical partial replacement for corn, soybean meal, and dicalcium phosphate in livestock and poultry feeds. Historically, over 85% of DDGS has been fed to dairy and beef cattle, and DDGS continues to be an excellent, economical feed ingredient for use in ruminant diets.
Bob Drewes in SESD, where corn made 700K gallons of ethanol in 2010, and feed a lot of beef & dairy; (are you doing your part for alternative fuels??)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131779 is a reply to message #131767] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 23:47 |
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USAussie
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Bob,
It's really nice to hear "just the facts."
Hey, the penny just dropped when you mentioned "mash" I realized that
ethanol is what gets distilled into booze! What a dope!
When I was working in the lab at Hamilton Standard Space Systems Department
we had a 55 gallon drum of the stuff to use for testing purposes. I remember
seeing a big ATF tax stamp on it. They had it out where people could get to
it easily UNTIL management realized the rate of consumption didn't match the
rate used for testing purposes! They then locked it up and you had to have a
test procedure that authorized you to get it.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 1:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News
Howdy;
For those not familiar with ethanol production and the thinking that the
corn is wasted for production of ethanol, and there will be an acute food
shortage by using corn for this purpose, here is some short facts about DDG.
The local feedlots in my area take the DDG wet, or what we call 'mash'. It
will keep for several weeks, both winter and summer, and is like candy to
the livestock. In 2010, one farmer fed 131 people, and the claim that the
corn producers gets the ethanol subsidy is false. Ethanol is blended by the
FUEL producers, as demanded by the US Gov, and THEY recieve the subsidy.
Distillers Grain
Distillers grain is an important co-product of drymill ethanol production.
Drymill ethanol production process uses only the starch portion of the corn,
which is about 70% of the kernel. All the remaining nutrients - protein,
fat, minerals, and vitamins - are concentrated into distillers grain, a
valuable feed for livestock. A bushel of corn weighs 56 pounds and will
produce at least 2.8 gallons of ethanol and 17 pounds of distillers grain.
Distillers grain can be fed to livestock wet or dry. Dried distillers grain
(DDG) is the most common variety. Drying the distillers grain increases its
shelf life and improves its ability to be transported over longer distances.
If a consistent nearby market can be secured, ethanol producers can supply
the feed as wet distillers grain (WDG). The wet form is not as easily
transportable, but the cost of drying the product is removed.
Dried distillers grain with solubles (DDGS) is the form available to the
feed industry. The liquid that is separated from the mash during the
distilling process is partially dehydrated into a syrup, then added back
onto the dried distillers grain to create DDGS.
DDGS is a high quality feedstuff ration for dairy cattle, beef cattle,
swine, poultry, and aquaculture. The feed is an economical partial
replacement for corn, soybean meal, and dicalcium phosphate in livestock and
poultry feeds. Historically, over 85% of DDGS has been fed to dairy and beef
cattle, and DDGS continues to be an excellent, economical feed ingredient
for use in ruminant diets.
Bob Drewes in SESD, where corn made 700K gallons of ethanol in 2010, and
feed a lot of beef & dairy; (are you doing your part for alternative
fuels??)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131797 is a reply to message #131767] |
Fri, 24 June 2011 07:41 |
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Bob,
Thanks for the information.
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Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com
http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Bob Drewes wrote:
> Howdy;
>
> For those not familiar with ethanol production and the thinking that the corn
> is wasted for production of ethanol, and there will be an acute food shortage
> by using corn for this purpose, here is some short facts about DDG. The local
> feedlots in my area take the DDG wet, or what we call 'mash'. It will keep for
> several weeks, both winter and summer, and is like candy to the livestock. In
> 2010, one farmer fed 131 people, and the claim that the corn producers gets
> the ethanol subsidy is false. Ethanol is blended by the FUEL producers, as
> demanded by the US Gov, and THEY recieve the subsidy.
>
> Distillers Grain
>
> Distillers grain is an important co-product of drymill ethanol production.
> Drymill ethanol production process uses only the starch portion of the corn,
> which is about 70% of the kernel. All the remaining nutrients - protein, fat,
> minerals, and vitamins - are concentrated into distillers grain, a valuable
> feed for livestock. A bushel of corn weighs 56 pounds and will produce at
> least 2.8 gallons of ethanol and 17 pounds of distillers grain.
>
> Distillers grain can be fed to livestock wet or dry. Dried distillers grain
> (DDG) is the most common variety. Drying the distillers grain increases its
> shelf life and improves its ability to be transported over longer distances.
> If a consistent nearby market can be secured, ethanol producers can supply the
> feed as wet distillers grain (WDG). The wet form is not as easily
> transportable, but the cost of drying the product is removed.
>
> Dried distillers grain with solubles (DDGS) is the form available to the feed
> industry. The liquid that is separated from the mash during the distilling
> process is partially dehydrated into a syrup, then added back onto the dried
> distillers grain to create DDGS.
>
> DDGS is a high quality feedstuff ration for dairy cattle, beef cattle, swine,
> poultry, and aquaculture. The feed is an economical partial replacement for
> corn, soybean meal, and dicalcium phosphate in livestock and poultry feeds.
> Historically, over 85% of DDGS has been fed to dairy and beef cattle, and DDGS
> continues to be an excellent, economical feed ingredient for use in ruminant
> diets.
>
> Bob Drewes in SESD, where corn made 700K gallons of ethanol in 2010, and feed
> a lot of beef & dairy; (are you doing your part for alternative fuels??)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ethanol Subsidy News [message #131810 is a reply to message #131805] |
Fri, 24 June 2011 09:07 |
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I Like Rob's Idea So Much That I Am Going To "PLANT A SUGAR CANE' In My Back Yard ~
I'll Be The Most Popular Guy In Alabama After Supplying 299 Houses With Power
~=========================================================
{"quote"
While it doesn't relate directly to this subject there was a news article
last night that up in Queensland the sugar cane growers are squeezing the
juice out of the cane and then grinding it up to use to power their plants.
It turns out that they have so much of the cane that they're building a
plant to sell power back to the grid. The will be able to
supply enough 'Power From One Plant' to power 300 houses!
xx unquote}
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WOW! , Don't Ya Love It ~
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'sweet home alebamy'
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