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[GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130028] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 11:25  |
peabody
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Hello,
My wife always complains how dark the interior is from the stove/refrigerator and back (she has a point). What paint can be used on those flat surfaces & will stick & is spraying the best way to apply??
Thanks
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130086 is a reply to message #130028] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 19:08   |
GMCNUSA
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peabody wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 12:25 |
Hello,
My wife always complains how dark the interior is from the stove/refrigerator and back (she has a point). What paint can be used on those flat surfaces & will stick & is spraying the best way to apply??
Thanks
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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I took a door from my 76 Eleganza with the dark vinyl covered cabinets to Sherwin-Williams. The answer he gave me is to use their bonding primer which is about $48 gallon and then use any good quality paint.
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130110 is a reply to message #130086] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 21:49   |
peabody
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Did you try that ?
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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> peabody wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 12:25
> > Hello,
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> > My wife always complains how dark the interior is from the stove/refrigerator and back (she has a point). What paint can be used on those flat surfaces & will stick & is spraying the best way to apply??
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> > Thanks
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> > William S. Schurman
> > P.O. 773325
> > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> > 970-846-4212
> > '78 Palm Beach
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> I took a door from my 76 Eleganza with the dark vinyl covered cabinets to Sherwin-Williams. The answer he gave me is to use their bonding primer which is about $48 gallon and then use any good quality paint.
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> Indianapolis, IN
> 76 Eleganza II
> Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130114 is a reply to message #130110] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 22:21   |
GMCNUSA
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peabody wrote on Mon, 13 June 2011 22:49 |
Did you try that ?
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
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> I took a door from my 76 Eleganza with the dark vinyl covered cabinets to Sherwin-Williams. The answer he gave me is to use their bonding primer which is about $48 gallon and then use any good quality paint.
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> Larry Dilk
> Indianapolis, IN
> 76 Eleganza II
> Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
> Just LOVE It!
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William,
I have not painted the cabinets yet. I'm doing a serious house kitchen remodel so the coach cosmetic projects will be on hold for a few months. The coach that Jim and Marlys Garman bought from Steve Ferguson has painted cabinets in the hall, I assume Steve painted the cabinets. They are a nice light cream or tan and it looks great and sure changes the feeling of the hallway. If you have the dark walnut cabinets it is a good change in my opinion.
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130121 is a reply to message #130117] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 22:49   |
peabody
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I've done a lot of painting, however, generally with a brush. What is the prep work ?? Do you need to "rough it up or prep it with a "primer" to have it "bind" to the hard/slick surface ?? Does Krylon "run" easily?? I'm a novice at spraying. Any advice is appreciated.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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> Fusion Krylon... About 10 cans. Looks pretty good.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37247&title=new-mods-december-2010&cat=3625
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130125 is a reply to message #130028] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 23:07   |
sgltrac
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Practice on your friends motorhome first
Sorry, spray can work is easy if what you are spraying is CLEAN. If there is a stain or finish on the panels I would wash all of them with tsp(home depot) then scuff with red scotch brite then dust a few coats of Kilz spray on in order to stabilize the wood. Let the kilz dry thoroughly and sweep any dust/raised grain out of the dried kilz again with red scotch brite and apply your top coat(you'll be an expert after playing around with the kilz) once you have a decent light "grabber" coat you can spray a little heavier for texture and coverage. If you live in cold climate such as myself fill the laundry sink with hot water and put the paint cans in there. Pull one out after a few minutes and shake it. If you feel the can go cold in your hand while shaking, drop it in the water again and repeat. Paint likes to be warm. Don't get the can any closer than about 12 inches. Better to apply from further with more overlap of passes.
J.w.I.d.
Sully
77 royale
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I've done a lot of painting, however, generally with a brush. What is the prep work ?? Do you need to "rough it up or prep it with a "primer" to have it "bind" to the hard/slick surface ?? Does Krylon "run" easily?? I'm a novice at spraying. Any advice is appreciated.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels
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> Fusion Krylon... About 10 cans. Looks pretty good.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37247&title=new-mods-december-2010&cat=3625
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> Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130129 is a reply to message #130028] |
Mon, 13 June 2011 23:27   |
sgltrac
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I might be over offering here but I thought of a couple of other things. Keep a rag handy to wipe the drool off of the spray tip as when it finally grows big enough to fall off it can get thrown by the spray into your paint work. Keep some lacquer thinner and rags handy. If you flag it bad with a herd of runs you can wipe em off while wet with a thinner soaked rag(s) and when the thinner gasses off, try again
J.w.I.t.
Sully
77 royale
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I've done a lot of painting, however, generally with a brush. What is the prep work ?? Do you need to "rough it up or prep it with a "primer" to have it "bind" to the hard/slick surface ?? Does Krylon "run" easily?? I'm a novice at spraying. Any advice is appreciated.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels
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> Fusion Krylon... About 10 cans. Looks pretty good.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37247&title=new-mods-december-2010&cat=3625
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra bag. The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130139 is a reply to message #130028] |
Tue, 14 June 2011 00:53   |
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On the subject of doors and panels, i want to redo all the wallmounted doors and cabinets in our GMC. I have experimented a little by taking one 2 door unit that sat above a window apart. Finding what seemed to be some sort of vinyl coating on wood "wood effect", and a cream vinyl. Using a heat gun "carefully" and a scraper it was possible to remove the old imitation vinyl finish totally. I am then going to spray with a filler primer, and sand flat to make the old frame nice and smooth and then spray it with matt enamel paint. I did this with some kitchen cabinets and if done carefully looks very nice.
NB this idea comes with no warranty !!!!
Steve & Debbie
Monticello, FL
77 Palm Beach :- Aurora
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130187 is a reply to message #130139] |
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Browsing around the photo site I came across this interesting hall light
<http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=8084&cat=3704>
If you don't want to paint to eliminate darkness, maybe you can add light instead.
Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA
On Jun 13, 2011, at 10:53 PM, steve & debbie wrote:
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> On the subject of doors and panels, i want to redo all the wallmounted doors and cabinets in our GMC. I have experimented a little by taking one 2 door unit that sat above a window apart. Finding what seemed to be some sort of vinyl coating on wood "wood effect", and a cream vinyl. Using a heat gun "carefully" and a scraper it was possible to remove the old imitation vinyl finish totally. I am then going to spray with a filler primer, and sand flat to make the old frame nice and smooth and then spray it with matt enamel paint. I did this with some kitchen cabinets and if done carefully looks very nice.
> NB this idea comes with no warranty !!!!
> --
> Steve & Debbie
> Monticello, FL
> 73 Glacier
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130254 is a reply to message #130187] |
Tue, 14 June 2011 20:44   |
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I had seen that, however, I do not know how he did it. My wife has not grown to like the GMC as she feels too confined. I'm afraid that it will require more that the big hall light. But a lighter look to the wood would help.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
> From: ljdavick@comcast.net
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:30:29 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels
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> Browsing around the photo site I came across this interesting hall light
> <http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=8084&cat=3704>
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> If you don't want to paint to eliminate darkness, maybe you can add light instead.
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> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> 1976(ish) Palm Beach
> Fremont, CA
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> On Jun 13, 2011, at 10:53 PM, steve & debbie wrote:
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> > On the subject of doors and panels, i want to redo all the wallmounted doors and cabinets in our GMC. I have experimented a little by taking one 2 door unit that sat above a window apart. Finding what seemed to be some sort of vinyl coating on wood "wood effect", and a cream vinyl. Using a heat gun "carefully" and a scraper it was possible to remove the old imitation vinyl finish totally. I am then going to spray with a filler primer, and sand flat to make the old frame nice and smooth and then spray it with matt enamel paint. I did this with some kitchen cabinets and if done carefully looks very nice.
> > NB this idea comes with no warranty !!!!
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> > Steve & Debbie
> > Monticello, FL
> > 73 Glacier
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130386 is a reply to message #130254] |
Wed, 15 June 2011 19:41   |
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Bill
I painted all the "woodwork" in my coach. I pulled the drawers and doors, wiped with laquer, lightly sanded, wiped with laquer again. I brushed on a primer (Kilz oil based I think) and rolled the flat surfaces with a foam roller. I than brushed and rolled on a Sherwin Williams satin latex enamel. No problem with runs and it looks darn good and sure brightens up the interior. Sorry no pictures. Go for it! You and SHE will be happy.
Randall
peabody wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 18:44 |
I had seen that, however, I do not know how he did it. My wife has not grown to like the GMC as she feels too confined. I'm afraid that it will require more that the big hall light. But a lighter look to the wood would help.
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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Randall Burns
Sammamish WA
75 EX GB
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130449 is a reply to message #130386] |
Thu, 16 June 2011 01:35   |
peabody
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Wow, now that is what I can do. Oil based Kilz comes with strong fumes!! I have used it many many times. Much better than the water-based.
Thank you very much for the advice.
Bill
William S. Schurman
P.O. 773325
Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
970-846-4212
'78 Palm Beach
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> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:41:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels
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> Bill
> I painted all the "woodwork" in my coach. I pulled the drawers and doors, wiped with laquer, lightly sanded, wiped with laquer again. I brushed on a primer (Kilz oil based I think) and rolled the flat surfaces with a foam roller. I than brushed and rolled on a Sherwin Williams satin latex enamel. No problem with runs and it looks darn good and sure brightens up the interior. Sorry no pictures. Go for it! You and SHE will be happy.
> Randall
> peabody wrote on Tue, 14 June 2011 18:44
> > I had seen that, however, I do not know how he did it. My wife has not grown to like the GMC as she feels too confined. I'm afraid that it will require more that the big hall light. But a lighter look to the wood would help.
> >
> >
> > William S. Schurman
> > P.O. 773325
> > Steamboat Springs, CO (Ski Town USA)
> > at the foot of Rabbit Ears Pass
> > 970-846-4212
> > '78 Palm Beach
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> Sammamish WA
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130548 is a reply to message #130473] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 08:56   |
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Just about to embark on this project myself. After much research, the best local solution I found was the Kilz 123 primer and a company named Graham Paints out of IL. makes a ceramic paint that is basically indistructable. Even in a satin finish in white, everything wipes off of it, staines even magic markers wipes off with a wet rag. I tryed it on a sample piece of laminate that came off of one of the cabinets. I did every thing but beat it with a hammer, even scratching does not phase it. I also found a couple of companies that sell similar products, some requiring primer, and some that don't. Sanding will only enhance the ability of the paint or primer to grab the slippery laminate surface. I intend to use fiberglass body filler to repair any damaged areas before priming. My previous owner, who makes harps for a living made beautiful handmade oak doors and put in a parquet floor and the dark fake wood just does not add anything to the coach. It is our belief that the lighter colors, especially through the hall of the palm beach will make it seem more open. At least that was my feeling when doing the open house tours of a few painted coaches in DuQuion. Anyway, it would be tough to go back once you do it, but imho, I think is a great upgrade with minimal expense.
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130571 is a reply to message #130548] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 10:50   |
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mschultz wrote on Fri, 17 June 2011 06:56 | Just about to embark on this project myself. After much research, the best local solution I found was the Kilz 123 primer and a company named Graham Paints out of IL. makes a ceramic paint that is basically indistructable. ...
... Anyway, it would be tough to go back once you do it, but imho, I think is a great upgrade with minimal expense.
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This the stuff?:
<http://www.grahampaint.com/core.htm>
Looks like a possible solution to the miss-matched furnishings in my 1973.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130576 is a reply to message #130473] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 11:28   |
ejuk8em
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Kelvin,
What is SEM?
Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
Pawnee, IL 62558
Pawnee Pride - Live It!
--- On Thu, 6/16/11, Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:
From: Kelvin Dietz <kelvin@datsuns.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2011, 8:49 PM
Since it is "vinyl" woodgrain on most of them I wonder if SEM paint
would work well? Sure sticks to the dash and the ABS side panels
really well. I've used it on vinyl door panels and even my knee rubbing
on the door panel hasn't worn the SEM off in 5 years.
Just a thought...
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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> Bill I painted all the "woodwork" in my coach. I pulled the drawers
> and doors, wiped with laquer, lightly sanded, wiped with laquer
> again. I brushed on a primer (Kilz oil based I think) and rolled the
> flat surfaces with a foam roller. I than brushed and rolled on a
> Sherwin Williams satin latex enamel. No problem with runs and it
> looks darn good and sure brightens up the interior. Sorry no
> pictures. Go for it! You and SHE will be happy.
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Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors & panels [message #130580 is a reply to message #130576] |
Fri, 17 June 2011 11:44   |
kelvin
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Sorry... would have explained but "everyone" here knows. :^)
http://semproducts.com/?home=1
Best stuff ever for painting plastic and vinyl. Krylon Fusion doesn't
hold a candle to this stuff...
Kelvin
> Kelvin,
> What is SEM?
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> Lyle A. Rigdon, Retired Superintendent
> Pawnee, IL 62558
> Pawnee Pride - Live It!
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> --- On Thu, 6/16/11, Kelvin Dietz<kelvin@datsuns.com> wrote:
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> From: Kelvin Dietz<kelvin@datsuns.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] painting the wood (veneer) doors& panels
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2011, 8:49 PM
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> Since it is "vinyl" woodgrain on most of them I wonder if SEM paint
> would work well? Sure sticks to the dash and the ABS side panels
> really well. I've used it on vinyl door panels and even my knee rubbing
> on the door panel hasn't worn the SEM off in 5 years.
>
> Just a thought...
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>
>>
>> Bill I painted all the "woodwork" in my coach. I pulled the drawers
>> and doors, wiped with laquer, lightly sanded, wiped with laquer
>> again. I brushed on a primer (Kilz oil based I think) and rolled the
>> flat surfaces with a foam roller. I than brushed and rolled on a
>> Sherwin Williams satin latex enamel. No problem with runs and it
>> looks darn good and sure brightens up the interior. Sorry no
>> pictures. Go for it! You and SHE will be happy.
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