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| Onan-Pertronix install [message #128593] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 08:18  |
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Where can I find diagrams-instructions
for installing the pertronix mod on my
Onan.
Thanks
Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128603 is a reply to message #128597] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 09:21  |
Ken Henderson
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Bill,
Rather than the Ford or VW modules listed, I'm back to recommending
the Pertronix unit for Oldsmobile -- 1181, IIRC. It's the same one
that you'd use if you wanted to convert a non-HEI GMC. The modules
all work the same but the bracket you'll have to make varies.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> You have a choice of Pertronix unit and method of installation.
>
> Here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6785&cat=3608
>
> And here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33113
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> This is a Pertronics unit for a VW. I didn't write any instructions.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of JoAnne Bissell
> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:19 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install
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> Where can I find diagrams-instructions
> for installing the pertronix mod on my
> Onan.
> Thanks
> Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128622 is a reply to message #128603] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 10:36 |
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Why this. One?
Gene
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On Jun 4, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Rather than the Ford or VW modules listed, I'm back to recommending
> the Pertronix unit for Oldsmobile -- 1181, IIRC. It's the same one
> that you'd use if you wanted to convert a non-HEI GMC. The modules
> all work the same but the bracket you'll have to make varies.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> You have a choice of Pertronix unit and method of installation.
>>
>> Here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6785&cat=3608
>>
>> And here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33113
>>
>> This is a Pertronics unit for a VW. I didn't write any instructions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> USAussie - Downunder
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of JoAnne Bissell
>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:19 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install
>>
>> Where can I find diagrams-instructions
>> for installing the pertronix mod on my
>> Onan.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128652 is a reply to message #128622] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 15:40 |
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| Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 10:36 |
Why this. One?
Gene
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With the 1181 you do not have to fashion a new mounting bracket. You can take the one supplied, bend it 90 degrees, and use it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128655 is a reply to message #128652] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 15:43 |
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Ken B,
Can you illustrate, as I can't finger it out for sure.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 10:36
>> Why this. One?
>> Gene
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> With the 1181 you do not have to fashion a new mounting bracket. Â You can take the one supplied, bend it 90 degrees, and use it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128657 is a reply to message #128655] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 16:01 |
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| jimk wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 15:43 |
Ken B,
Can you illustrate, as I can't finger it out for sure.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 10:36
>> Why this. One?
>> Gene
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> With the 1181 you do not have to fashion a new mounting bracket. Â You can take the one supplied, bend it 90 degrees, and use it.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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Not easily Jim. I would have to go out to the airport and tear my ONAN apart to get a picture. All I can say is to bend the flat piece of the bracket to a 90 degree angle. I double face foam tape the the bracket in position on the rear shroud. I sometimes clamp or vice grip them in position on top of the tape. When you have it positioned with the clearance checked and the timing set, drill two holes in the bracket and mount it permanently to the rear shroud.
Note: I always check the timing with a timing light BEFORE drilling the holes and permanently mounting the unit.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128668 is a reply to message #128657] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 16:46 |
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I think I fingured it out finally.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> jimk wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 15:43
>> Ken B,
>> Can you illustrate, as I can't finger it out for sure.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr ERFisher wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 10:36
>> >> Why this. One?
>> >> Gene
>> >
>> > With the 1181 you do not have to fashion a new mounting bracket.  You can take the one supplied, bend it 90 degrees, and use it.
>> > --
>> > Ken Burton - N9KB
>> > 76 Palm Beach
>> > Hebron, Indiana
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
>> _______________________________________________
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> Not easily Jim. Â I would have to go out to the airport and tear my ONAN apart to get a picture. Â All I can say is to bend the flat piece of the bracket to a 90 degree angle. Â I double face foam tape the the bracket in position on the rear shroud. Â I sometimes clamp or vice grip them in position on top of the tape. Â When you have it positioned with the clearance checked and the timing set, drill two holes in the bracket and mount it permanently to the rear shroud.
>
> Note: Â I always check the timing with a timing light BEFORE drilling the holes and permanently mounting the unit.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128672 is a reply to message #128603] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 17:09 |
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does not come with magnets does it?
gene
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Rather than the Ford or VW modules listed, I'm back to recommending
> the Pertronix unit for Oldsmobile -- 1181, IIRC. It's the same one
> that you'd use if you wanted to convert a non-HEI GMC. The modules
> all work the same but the bracket you'll have to make varies.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
> > Bill,
> >
> > You have a choice of Pertronix unit and method of installation.
> >
> > Here:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6785&cat=3608
> >
> > And here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33113
> >
> > This is a Pertronics unit for a VW. I didn't write any instructions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie - Downunder
> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of JoAnne Bissell
> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:19 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install
> >
> > Where can I find diagrams-instructions
> > for installing the pertronix mod on my
> > Onan.
> > Thanks
> > Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128674 is a reply to message #128672] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 17:20 |
Ken Henderson
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Certainly the 1181 comes with magnets -- all embedded in the wheel
which mounts on the shaft. As do all of the Ignitor series. Just cut
one out with wire cutters to epoxy into the flywheel.
Ken H.
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> does not come with magnets does it?
> gene
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Rather than the Ford or VW modules listed, I'm back to recommending
>> the Pertronix unit for Oldsmobile -- 1181, IIRC. It's the same one
>> that you'd use if you wanted to convert a non-HEI GMC. The modules
>> all work the same but the bracket you'll have to make varies.
>>
>> Ken H.
>> Americus, GA
>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>> > Bill,
>> >
>> > You have a choice of Pertronix unit and method of installation.
>> >
>> > Here:
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6785&cat=3608
>> >
>> > And here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33113
>> >
>> > This is a Pertronics unit for a VW. I didn't write any instructions.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Rob M.
>> > USAussie - Downunder
>> > AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> > USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of JoAnne Bissell
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:19 PM
>> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> > Subject: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install
>> >
>> > Where can I find diagrams-instructions
>> > for installing the pertronix mod on my
>> > Onan.
>> > Thanks
>> > Bill
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128681 is a reply to message #128674] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 18:20 |
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Hummmm
Did not show in Jimk pix
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On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Certainly the 1181 comes with magnets -- all embedded in the wheel
> which mounts on the shaft. As do all of the Ignitor series. Just cut
> one out with wire cutters to epoxy into the flywheel.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
>> does not come with magnets does it?
>> gene
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Rather than the Ford or VW modules listed, I'm back to recommending
>>> the Pertronix unit for Oldsmobile -- 1181, IIRC. It's the same one
>>> that you'd use if you wanted to convert a non-HEI GMC. The modules
>>> all work the same but the bracket you'll have to make varies.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>> Americus, GA
>>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
>>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bill,
>>>>
>>>> You have a choice of Pertronix unit and method of installation.
>>>>
>>>> Here:
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6785&cat=3608
>>>>
>>>> And here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=33113
>>>>
>>>> This is a Pertronics unit for a VW. I didn't write any instructions.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rob M.
>>>> USAussie - Downunder
>>>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>>>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
>>>> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of JoAnne Bissell
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:19 PM
>>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install
>>>>
>>>> Where can I find diagrams-instructions
>>>> for installing the pertronix mod on my
>>>> Onan.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bill
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
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| Re: [GMCnet] Onan-Pertronix install [message #128682 is a reply to message #128668] |
Sat, 04 June 2011 18:24 |
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G'day,
Here's the picture of how to install the magnet in the flywheel, I would
suggest making the hole shallow so that the magnet sits proud of the
flywheel. That will increase the distance between the flywheel and the
Pertronix.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=6801
The reason being is that the flywheels are a casting and the one on Double
Trouble's Onan was not true. When John Sharpe and I installed mine I set it
at a tight 0.030 and when fired it up the first time the flywheel hit the
Pertronics. We installed a second unit and IIRC set it at 0.060 away from
the magnet and I flap wheeled the flywheel to make sure it cleared. I
noticed after doing that the vibrations increased. I just had the flywheel
on the Onan checked; it was out of balance and had to be drilled to bring it
back in balance.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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