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| [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #127813] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 17:30  |
jhbridges
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--- On Sat, 5/28/11, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
My boss took the weelkend for his mountain cabin, so I'm on call and working on the coach. Popped the hatch for a good look at the squirrel. It looks like it's been there for the 82K showing on the odometer. Air filter was overdue. replaced several cracked and hardened vacuum hoses of various sizes. reconnected the chain for the autopilot. Noted it has had a good looking set of stainless headers installed at some point, mufflers look new and small. Now I know why it growls when you punch it. Engine now starts easily and idles smoothly, trans shifts crisply. And the A/C doesn't sag at cruise throttle. George worked for a short part of the test trip, then something went 'plink' and he quit. I expect the chain clip came off. Full throttle still kills the doors in the A/C, so it needs a check valve and perhaps a reservoir. Carb needs at least cleaning, it's kinda scurvy looking. May want a build, if the vacuum line repair and new
air filter don't improve the mileage, a build is in order. I've been 'little ol' ladying' the thing, finally today got the back barrels on the carb open for a bit. Performance ain't bad at all.
Sitting on the intake I found a tube about eight inches long, and a roll pin maybe a half inch long. No idea what's afloat in there. Did GM put the cruise chain from the vacuum servo to the carb linkage in a tube maybe?
Air cleaner wingnut has been replaced with a hex nut, that will be corrected before anyone else is allowed to tinker. (Ask the QuadraJet gurus about overtightening the cleaner hold down nut. Does Bad Things to the carb)
AC electrics seem to work OK.. DC coach electrics don't. However, this is my field of expertise, I can make them all go without a lot of heartburn... takes time, a meter, and a Fox N Hound, all of which I got.Since the radio comes on but makes no sound, like the CB set, dash removal is in the near future. I have a spiffy unused Kenwood HD-FM-AM-CD=MP3-etc. which will replace the Hashimoto Mouse radio currently in it. There's a TV antenna on the roof and a set of photocells, some chaisng is in order. Cheep flatscreen fromTiger Direct and we're fat city nights.
After the electrics comes plumbing. Furnace can wait till fall if necessary, but it isn't rusted and looks like it will work on demand.
Tha adventure continues.
--johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #127820 is a reply to message #127813] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 18:28  |
jimk
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Johnny,
They are not SS headers, just coated nickle.
The tube that was laying on the intake is the heat tube that cones off
the left exhaust shield to the bottom of the air filter housing. Since
the header was installed, you will want to install a flex tube in its
place and attach a device o the tube on the header
If its missing, I'll send you one n/c.
The chain runs through the tube so it will not tango up .
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> My boss took the weelkend for his mountain cabin, so I'm on call and working on the coach. Popped the hatch for a good look at the squirrel. It looks like it's been there for the 82K showing on the odometer. Air filter was overdue. replaced several cracked and hardened vacuum hoses of various sizes. reconnected the chain for the autopilot. Noted it has had a good looking set of stainless headers installed at some point, mufflers look new and small. Now I know why it growls when you punch it. Engine now starts easily and idles smoothly, trans shifts crisply. And the A/C doesn't sag at cruise throttle. George worked for a short part of the test trip, then something went 'plink' and he quit. I expect the chain clip came off. Full throttle still kills the doors in the A/C, so it needs a check valve and perhaps a reservoir. Carb needs at least cleaning, it's kinda scurvy looking. May want a build, if the vacuum line repair and new
>  air filter don't improve the mileage, a build is in order. I've been 'little ol' ladying' the thing, finally today got the back barrels on the carb open for a bit. Performance ain't bad at all.
> Sitting on the intake I found a tube about eight inches long, and a roll pin maybe a half inch long. No idea what's afloat in there. Did GM put the cruise chain from the vacuum servo to the carb linkage in a tube maybe?
> Air cleaner wingnut has been replaced with a hex nut, that will be corrected before anyone else is allowed to tinker. (Ask the QuadraJet gurus about overtightening the cleaner hold down nut. Does Bad Things to the carb)
> AC electrics seem to work OK.. DC coach electrics don't. However, this is my field of expertise, I can make them all go without a lot of heartburn... takes time, a meter, and a Fox N Hound, all of which I got.Since the radio comes on but makes no sound, like the CB set, dash removal is in the near future. I have a spiffy unused Kenwood HD-FM-AM-CD=MP3-etc. which will replace the Hashimoto Mouse radio currently in it. There's a TV antenna on the roof and a set of photocells, some chaisng is in order. Cheep flatscreen fromTiger Direct and we're fat city nights.
> After the electrics comes plumbing. Furnace can wait till fall if necessary, but it isn't rusted and looks like it will work on demand.
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> Tha adventure continues.
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> --johnny
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #127837 is a reply to message #127820] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 19:32 |
jhbridges
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It's got a flex tubeand a bit of a baffle on the driver's side header, and the vacuum motor weorks - now - with uncracked hose. Thanks for the offer, though. The little straight tube looks to be the one the crusie control is threaded through.
I note there are different carbs and distributiors (This has HEI) fitted for CA or 49 federal. This coach looks to have started off in CA... at any rate it's got temp controlled distributor vacuum and a couple of other things which use temp controlled vacuum. Were there any other changes to CA vs 49? I figure there might be a marginal mileage increase using 49 federal tuning.
--johnny
--- On Sat, 5/28/11, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:28 PM
Johnny,
They are not SS headers, just coated nickle.
The tube that was laying on the intake is the heat tube that cones off
the left exhaust shield to the bottom of the air filter housing. Since
the header was installed, you will want to install a flex tube in its
place and attach a device o the tube on the header
If its missing, I'll send you one n/c.
The chain runs through the tube so it will not tango up .
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
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> My boss took the weelkend for his mountain cabin, so I'm on call and working on the coach. Popped the hatch for a good look at the squirrel. It looks like it's been there for the 82K showing on the odometer. Air filter was overdue. replaced several cracked and hardened vacuum hoses of various sizes. reconnected the chain for the autopilot. Noted it has had a good looking set of stainless headers installed at some point, mufflers look new and small. Now I know why it growls when you punch it. Engine now starts easily and idles smoothly, trans shifts crisply. And the A/C doesn't sag at cruise throttle. George worked for a short part of the test trip, then something went 'plink' and he quit. I expect the chain clip came off. Full throttle still kills the doors in the A/C, so it needs a check valve and perhaps a reservoir. Carb needs at least cleaning, it's kinda scurvy looking. May want a build, if the vacuum line repair and new
> air filter don't improve the mileage, a build is in order. I've been 'little ol' ladying' the thing, finally today got the back barrels on the carb open for a bit. Performance ain't bad at all.
> Sitting on the intake I found a tube about eight inches long, and a roll pin maybe a half inch long. No idea what's afloat in there. Did GM put the cruise chain from the vacuum servo to the carb linkage in a tube maybe?
> Air cleaner wingnut has been replaced with a hex nut, that will be corrected before anyone else is allowed to tinker. (Ask the QuadraJet gurus about overtightening the cleaner hold down nut. Does Bad Things to the carb)
> AC electrics seem to work OK.. DC coach electrics don't. However, this is my field of expertise, I can make them all go without a lot of heartburn... takes time, a meter, and a Fox N Hound, all of which I got.Since the radio comes on but makes no sound, like the CB set, dash removal is in the near future. I have a spiffy unused Kenwood HD-FM-AM-CD=MP3-etc. which will replace the Hashimoto Mouse radio currently in it. There's a TV antenna on the roof and a set of photocells, some chaisng is in order. Cheep flatscreen fromTiger Direct and we're fat city nights.
> After the electrics comes plumbing. Furnace can wait till fall if necessary, but it isn't rusted and looks like it will work on demand.
>
> Tha adventure continues.
>
> --johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #127864 is a reply to message #127837] |
Sat, 28 May 2011 23:41 |
James Hupy
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Johnny, tell us again what year coach you have, and I will give you the
correct carb number and distributor number, and vacuum advance canister
number. If it is a california coach, there are changes in the EEC also. If
that tube that you found on the intake manifold is about the diameter of a
straw, it goes over the cruise control chain to keep it from hanging up and
holding your throttle open. Exciting deal when it happens.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> It's got a flex tubeand a bit of a baffle on the driver's side header, and
> the vacuum motor weorks - now - with uncracked hose. Thanks for the offer,
> though. The little straight tube looks to be the one the crusie control is
> threaded through.
>
> I note there are different carbs and distributiors (This has HEI) fitted
> for CA or 49 federal. This coach looks to have started off in CA... at any
> rate it's got temp controlled distributor vacuum and a couple of other
> things which use temp controlled vacuum. Were there any other changes to CA
> vs 49? I figure there might be a marginal mileage increase using 49 federal
> tuning.
>
> --johnny
>
> --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:28 PM
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> Johnny,
> They are not SS headers, just coated nickle.
> The tube that was laying on the intake is the heat tube that cones off
> the left exhaust shield to the bottom of the air filter housing. Since
> the header was installed, you will want to install a flex tube in its
> place and attach a device o the tube on the header
> If its missing, I'll send you one n/c.
> The chain runs through the tube so it will not tango up .
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com>
> wrote:
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> > --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Johnny Bridges <jhbridges@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
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> >
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> > My boss took the weelkend for his mountain cabin, so I'm on call and
> working on the coach. Popped the hatch for a good look at the squirrel. It
> looks like it's been there for the 82K showing on the odometer. Air filter
> was overdue. replaced several cracked and hardened vacuum hoses of various
> sizes. reconnected the chain for the autopilot. Noted it has had a good
> looking set of stainless headers installed at some point, mufflers look new
> and small. Now I know why it growls when you punch it. Engine now starts
> easily and idles smoothly, trans shifts crisply. And the A/C doesn't sag at
> cruise throttle. George worked for a short part of the test trip, then
> something went 'plink' and he quit. I expect the chain clip came off. Full
> throttle still kills the doors in the A/C, so it needs a check valve and
> perhaps a reservoir. Carb needs at least cleaning, it's kinda scurvy
> looking. May want a build, if the vacuum line repair and new
> > air filter don't improve the mileage, a build is in order. I've been
> 'little ol' ladying' the thing, finally today got the back barrels on the
> carb open for a bit. Performance ain't bad at all.
> > Sitting on the intake I found a tube about eight inches long, and a roll
> pin maybe a half inch long. No idea what's afloat in there. Did GM put the
> cruise chain from the vacuum servo to the carb linkage in a tube maybe?
> > Air cleaner wingnut has been replaced with a hex nut, that will be
> corrected before anyone else is allowed to tinker. (Ask the QuadraJet gurus
> about overtightening the cleaner hold down nut. Does Bad Things to the
> carb)
> > AC electrics seem to work OK.. DC coach electrics don't. However, this
> is my field of expertise, I can make them all go without a lot of
> heartburn... takes time, a meter, and a Fox N Hound, all of which I
> got.Since the radio comes on but makes no sound, like the CB set, dash
> removal is in the near future. I have a spiffy unused Kenwood
> HD-FM-AM-CD=MP3-etc. which will replace the Hashimoto Mouse radio currently
> in it. There's a TV antenna on the roof and a set of photocells, some
> chaisng is in order. Cheep flatscreen fromTiger Direct and we're fat city
> nights.
> > After the electrics comes plumbing. Furnace can wait till fall if
> necessary, but it isn't rusted and looks like it will work on demand.
> >
> > Tha adventure continues.
> >
> > --johnny
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #127973 is a reply to message #127864] |
Mon, 30 May 2011 09:01 |
jhbridges
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It's a '76 Transmode, with a Norris Homes Inc. interior according to the sticker on the side.
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Learning curve [message #128015 is a reply to message #127973] |
Mon, 30 May 2011 16:37 |
Ken Burton
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On the vacuum for the doors, There should be a softball sized black vacuum reserve tank mounted to the driver's side of the heater box. Make sure it still has the heater control hoses run through it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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