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Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #127798]

Sat, 28 May 2011 15:42

RF_Burns

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I have a leaky airbag so I ordered a set of Jim K's Silvertone airbags. Sorry Quadrabager but I like the idea of the OEM style.

Anyway I have one installed and at set height the airbag appears to be extended to max. According to Firestone the design length of this airbag (not including the extension for our application) is 9-10.5". Its sitting at 12.3" right now.

The max jounce lenght is 14.7", but I think thats unloaded height.

Compairing the cone from the uninstalled bag, its completely unrolled at this point. At my set height the distance between the bogie airbag arms is 14.75" and the extensions on the airbags are 2.625"

Does this sound right? If so I don't think I can raise it manually any higher than what it is now.

I called Applied but I guess Jim took one saturday off! Shocked

Any ideas?

Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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Re: Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #127800 is a reply to message #127798]

Sat, 28 May 2011 15:50

RF_Burns

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Measuring from the roll of the bag to the end of the cone is 3.25", the total length of the cone is 3.50" so I am at the end of the roll!

My compressor shuts off at 120psi so I am not sure if I am even to the set height or just max airpressure.

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Re: Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #127823 is a reply to message #127798]

Sat, 28 May 2011 18:37

RF_Burns

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I"ve got the second airbag installed now. Its sitting at 3" from the roll of the airbag to the face of the cone, so 1/4 further in.

The total extended length of airbag and cone is sitting at 12", still 1.5" beyond its design length.

I'm wondering if I'm missing a spacer or ?

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #127826 is a reply to message #127798]

Sat, 28 May 2011 18:41

jimk

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Sorry, our great electonic phone system was off.
Raise the pressure to 125 the published height is with pressure.

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Bruce Hislop <bruce@perthcomm.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have a leaky airbag so I ordered a set of Jim K's Silvertone airbags. Sorry Quadrabager but I like the idea of the OEM style.
>
> Anyway I have one installed and at set height the airbag appears to be extended to max. According to Firestone the design length of this airbag (not including the extension for our application) is 9-10.5". Its sitting at 12.3" right now.
>
> The max jounce lenght is 14.7", but I think thats unloaded height.
>
> Compairing the cone from the uninstalled bag, its completely unrolled at this point. At my set height the distance between the bogie airbag arms is 14.75" and the extensions on the airbags are 2.625"
>
> Does this sound right? If so I don't think I can raise it manually any higher than what it is now.
>
> I called Applied but I guess Jim took one saturday off! 8o
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #127829 is a reply to message #127798]

Sat, 28 May 2011 18:52

RF_Burns

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Jim,
It appears it raises the coach to the set height. My concern was the airbag seems to be at full extension, the roll of the airbag is at the edge of the cone.

So I really can't raise the coach any higher for leveling.

They are sitting close to 2" beyond the upper limit of their design height. So I'm thinking I'm missing another spacer for the other end?

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #128406 is a reply to message #127798]

Thu, 02 June 2011 21:12

Steve Phillips

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Hi There
I haven't Been on the net for a while, What are Jim K Silvertone
Bags and how much are they???

Steve
78 Birch
mt

On 5/28/2011 2:42 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>
> I have a leaky airbag so I ordered a set of Jim K's Silvertone airbags. Sorry Quadrabager but I like the idea of the OEM style.
>
> Anyway I have one installed and at set height the airbag appears to be extended to max. According to Firestone the design length of this airbag (not including the extension for our application) is 9-10.5". Its sitting at 12.3" right now.
>
> The max jounce lenght is 14.7", but I think thats unloaded height.
>
> Compairing the cone from the uninstalled bag, its completely unrolled at this point. At my set height the distance between the bogie airbag arms is 14.75" and the extensions on the airbags are 2.625"
>
> Does this sound right? If so I don't think I can raise it manually any higher than what it is now.
>
> I called Applied but I guess Jim took one saturday off! 8o
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #128409 is a reply to message #128406]

Thu, 02 June 2011 21:35

Harry

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Go to Applied's web site and do a search.

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #128413 is a reply to message #128406]

Thu, 02 June 2011 21:52

Mr ERFisher

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here is the history
http://goo.gl/lHkWw

gene

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:12 PM, steve <mr34@pipeline.com> wrote:

> Hi There
> I haven't Been on the net for a while, What are Jim K Silvertone
> Bags and how much are they???
>
> Steve
> 78 Birch
> mt
>
>
> On 5/28/2011 2:42 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
> >
> > I have a leaky airbag so I ordered a set of Jim K's Silvertone airbags.
> Sorry Quadrabager but I like the idea of the OEM style.
> >
> > Anyway I have one installed and at set height the airbag appears to be
> extended to max. According to Firestone the design length of this airbag
> (not including the extension for our application) is 9-10.5". Its sitting at
> 12.3" right now.
> >
> > The max jounce lenght is 14.7", but I think thats unloaded height.
> >
> > Compairing the cone from the uninstalled bag, its completely unrolled at
> this point. At my set height the distance between the bogie airbag arms is
> 14.75" and the extensions on the airbags are 2.625"
> >
> > Does this sound right? If so I don't think I can raise it manually any
> higher than what it is now.
> >
> > I called Applied but I guess Jim took one saturday off! 8o
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone installed the "Silvertone" airbags? I think I have a problem [message #128427 is a reply to message #128409]

Thu, 02 June 2011 23:51

jimk

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We have tested them and when you go up to 125psi we stopped.
Some are raising the rear higher then factory specs.
We are going to be replacing the spacer soon with one that will be one
inch longer.
We pulled this old design off the shelf from 1996 without double checking it.
Like anything we sell, we will issue full credit and also pay freight back.
Summer is a very busy time and it gets tough to make changes quickly.
We know of the problem and have admitted it.
Should you not want to wait, Call us and we can work out a special
deal on a Q Bag .

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:35 PM, David H. Jarvis <jarvis210@shaw.ca> wrote:
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> Go to Applied's web site and do a search.
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