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USAussie
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Robin,
I noticed in your You Tube video you had the GMC Operators Manual and
Coachman Owners Manual; if you have not already done so I would suggest you
begin reading them. I would start with the Coachman Owners Manual, then the
GMC Operators Manual.
Here's a link to the Maintenance Manual and Parts Book.
http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html
I would suggest you download and print them out and when you go out to the
GMC exploring bring them with you and reference them. I can assure you that
it will help you to learn about your GMC.
I've been using them as bed time reading since I owned mine. They are GA RON
TEED to put you to sleep! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127067 is a reply to message #127019] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 07:44  |
Andrew
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I second the recommendation.
The Operator's Manual is a quick read, and I'm about 500 of 800 pages through the Maintenance Manual too (with about 40% comprehension -- and a greatly increased appreciation for the complexity of automatic transmissions...I'm not sure how I thought they worked, but wow!).
The Maintenance Manual is really quite readable, and I was surprised to see decent "Theory of Operation" sections for most major systems. I guess I was expecting more of a reference orientation / shop manual.
I downloaded the Maintenance Manual from bdub.net ( http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html ). It's great and perfectly legible, but some of the denser/darker photos and diagrams are a little hard to see clearly.
Tom Lins also sells a DVD full of scanned documentation ( http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/index.html ). I'm wondering if those images are more clear. Tom mentions 256 shade grayscale, which should be good, but there are also a few colorized pages in the transmission section of the other one which might be correspondingly harder to follow. The colorization might have been done by hand, with a marker.
Example pages in X-7425 (1973-1974 Maintenance Manual):
pg 7-13 diagram is colorized, small markings are hard to read.
pg 7-25 photo is dark, hard to see where all the lines go.
Has anyone compared them?
1973 Sequoia 260 (since 2011)
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127075 is a reply to message #127019] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 08:37 |
GeorgeRud
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Tom Lins DVDs are great! I purchased the Cinnebar printed manuals when I first got my coach, and most of the photos are too dark to make out, but the DVDs are quite clear and very helpful.
Best money I've spent on the coach. Now, if I could only figure out how to load that information into my iPad as well!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127077 is a reply to message #127075] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 08:52 |
Andrew
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| GeorgeRud wrote on Mon, 23 May 2011 08:37 |
Best money I've spent on the coach. Now, if I could only figure out how to load that information into my iPad as well!
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Ah, another question I meant to ask. Are Tom's scans PDFs or are they buried in a DVD format and not easy to access directly?
I'll still order them if the resolution is HQ, but iPad accessibility would make them way more useful to me.
Thanks for the info!
1973 Sequoia 260 (since 2011)
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127078 is a reply to message #127067] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 08:52 |
gmcrv1
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I have Tom Lins CDs and they are very good. Have nothing to compare them
with but, they have lots of information and you can print the page or pages
you are referencing. Very handy.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Andrew <reynhout@quesera.com> wrote:
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> Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 22 May 2011 20:20
> > http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html
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> > I've been using them as bed time reading since I owned mine. They are GA
> RON TEED to put you to sleep! ;)
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>
> I second the recommendation.
>
> The Operator's Manual is a quick read, and I'm about 500 of 800 pages
> through the Maintenance Manual too (with about 40% comprehension -- and a
> greatly increased appreciation for the complexity of automatic
> transmissions...I'm not sure how I thought they worked, but wow!).
>
> The Maintenance Manual is really quite readable, and I was surprised to see
> decent "Theory of Operation" sections for most major systems. I guess I was
> expecting more of a reference orientation / shop manual.
>
> I downloaded the Maintenance Manual from bdub.net (
> http://www.bdub.net/factory-manuals.html ). It's great and perfectly
> readable, but some of the denser/darker photos and diagrams are a little
> hard to see clearly.
>
> Tom Lins also sells a DVD full of scanned documentation (
> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/index.html ). I'm wondering if those images
> are more clear. Tom mentions 256 shade grayscale, which should be good, but
> there are also a few colorized pages in the transmission section of the
> other one which might be correspondingly harder to follow. The colorization
> might have been done by hand, with a marker.
>
> Has anyone compared them?
>
> --
> 1973 Sequoia 260 (since 2011)
> Savannah, GA
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127082 is a reply to message #127075] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 09:22 |
Jim Galbavy
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Like George, I have both sets. The shop here in Richmond that does most of the work on ANNIE has downloaded Tom's DVDs in the Shop's computer and when ever they work on her they bring up the required pages and print them out. The mechanic can then have a reference right there next to him (without greasing up the manual's pages).
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
CHESTERFIELD, VA // Lake Mary, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127133 is a reply to message #127075] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 12:48 |
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USAussie
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G'day,
Agreed! Tom's DVD's are great!
The Blue Streak's PO bought a set of Cinnabar's reprints and as noted they
leave a lot to be desired.
I set up an eBay search and found an original set for a reasonable price.
Being an ex aircraft mechanic I am a bit pedantic and will review the
Maintenance Manual before I do any task.
I also peruse Gene's website for helpful tips.
It's AMAZING how easy stuff can be if you do a bit of homework BEFORE you
begin the job!
Self-righteous switch placed in the "off" position! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others
Tom Lins DVDs are great! I purchased the Cinnebar printed manuals when I
first got my coach, and most of the photos are too dark to make out, but the
DVDs are quite clear and very helpful.
Best money I've spent on the coach. Now, if I could only figure out how to
load that information into my iPad as well!
--
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127140 is a reply to message #127133] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 13:09 |
James Hupy
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Rob, RTFM applies 100 percent of the time.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> G'day,
>
> Agreed! Tom's DVD's are great!
>
> The Blue Streak's PO bought a set of Cinnabar's reprints and as noted they
> leave a lot to be desired.
>
> I set up an eBay search and found an original set for a reasonable price.
>
> Being an ex aircraft mechanic I am a bit pedantic and will review the
> Maintenance Manual before I do any task.
>
> I also peruse Gene's website for helpful tips.
>
> It's AMAZING how easy stuff can be if you do a bit of homework BEFORE you
> begin the job!
>
> Self-righteous switch placed in the "off" position! ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of George Rudawsky
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:37 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others
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> Tom Lins DVDs are great! I purchased the Cinnebar printed manuals when I
> first got my coach, and most of the photos are too dark to make out, but
> the
> DVDs are quite clear and very helpful.
>
> Best money I've spent on the coach. Now, if I could only figure out how to
> load that information into my iPad as well!
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127153 is a reply to message #127140] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 13:35 |
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USAussie
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Jim,
Downunder it's RTBMM.
Read The Bloody Manual, Mate!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Rob, RTFM applies 100 percent of the time.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
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The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127158 is a reply to message #127153] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 14:36 |
Mr ERFisher
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Here it is RTFM
Gene
FREE WIFI @ Mickey D
On May 23, 2011, at 11:35 AM, "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Downunder it's RTBMM.
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> Read The Bloody Manual, Mate!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of James Hupy
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others
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> Rob, RTFM applies 100 percent of the time.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127167 is a reply to message #127165] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 15:04 |
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ljdavick
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I understand that you can email a pdf to a kindle, but there is some small charge for it, like 25 cents, or something.
Larry Davick
Fremont, California
The Mystery Machine
'76 (ish) Palm Beach
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From: "David H. Jarvis" <jarvis210@shaw.ca>
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:02:44 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others
Question...
Is it possible to download the manuals in to a Kindle reader?
Or one of them ebook things?
--
"I've always been crazy, but it kept me from going insane"
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127175 is a reply to message #127077] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 15:41 |
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| Andrew wrote on Mon, 23 May 2011 09:52 |
| GeorgeRud wrote on Mon, 23 May 2011 08:37 |
Best money I've spent on the coach. Now, if I could only figure out how to load that information into my iPad as well!
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Ah, another question I meant to ask. Are Tom's scans PDFs or are they buried in a DVD format and not easy to access directly?
I'll still order them if the resolution is HQ, but iPad accessibility would make them way more useful to me.
Thanks for the info!
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George and Andrew,
All of the Tom Lins files are *.pdf. If I can have them all on a Droid, you should be able to load them on an iAnything. The only problem I have had is that one has a page definition set so it doesn't like my large/fast printer.
I have most of the books, but I only carry them because I am paranoid. (I don't mind it, it serves me well on the water.)
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Manual Source for Robin and others [message #127215 is a reply to message #127019] |
Mon, 23 May 2011 21:16 |
GeorgeRud
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The files can be transferred to an iPad using iTunes and iBooks. Once I loaded them into the iTunes book library from my PC, I was able to sync them into my iPad. (I'd be lying to say that I remember totally how I did it, but it seems to proceed pretty intuitavely once you start playing around with the iPad). They are quite readable and it certainly is nice to be able to have this much information available in such a small space. In addition to the manuals, I also downloaded the Blacklist onto my iPad.
It's a bit confusing as the iPads have iBooks, iTunes, and iPod applications, and you're not always sure which you should use to try to do what you want. I'm sure as I have mine longer, it will be clearer with use. I am one that misses having an old, printed manual to refer to (but I can see the rational of having the information available in an easy to update format on the internet).
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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