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[GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124169] Mon, 02 May 2011 05:27 Go to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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> Manny has been working on this for a while now. He can make things happen
> so maybe he can sell them for half but there will be no profit for anyone.


strange thing to say

I relate it to LEDs, last years models sold for $36, this year models sold
for $16, next model will be even less. The technology has improved every
year as the price comes down,
and yet -------
some folks are making a lot of money selling the lower-cost versions of LEDs
.;>)


> I guess we will see shortly. That announcement will stop any further sales
> til something happens for sure.

New sales have almost doubled the number of systems already in place.

The business of installing these front ends is going to be very large.
Not going to stop sales, at all !!!

Hubler, and Manny are working very hard to make these front ends
technically correct, and available at -large quantity - prices.
This is a second version, to make the kits, technically correct, and (
except for the knuckles and lower control arms) , using all new parts

Manny has put in a lot of time and money to update, the "Chevy , front end
kits" . He has to buy these kit parts at quantity 50, to get the lower
prices.

These front-end kits may become a standard up-grade as parts parts for our
existing front ends, become increasingly hard to find, and repair of the
existing parts becomes expensive and hard to support.

200,000 mile, maintenance free, front ends , will provide an excellent
upgrade, that all of our vendors can support.


Guess you needed to be at the Rally to hear their talk ;>)
but at least, the rally information is being published, not held hostage ;>)

gene

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Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124174 is a reply to message #124169] Mon, 02 May 2011 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carleton Douglas[1] is currently offline  Carleton Douglas[1]   United States
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thanks, Gene

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>   Manny has been working on this for a while now. He can make things happen
>> so maybe he can sell them for half but there will be no profit for anyone.
>
>
> strange thing to say
>
> I relate it to LEDs, last years models sold for $36, this year models sold
> for $16, next model will be even less.  The technology has improved every
> year as the price comes down,
> and yet -------
> some folks are making a lot of money selling the lower-cost versions of LEDs
> .;>)
>
>
>> I guess we will see shortly. That announcement will stop any further sales
>> til something happens for sure.
>
> New sales  have almost doubled the number of systems already in place.
>
> The business of installing these front ends is going to be very large.
> Not going to stop sales, at all !!!
>
> Hubler, and Manny  are working very hard to make these front ends
> technically correct, and available at -large quantity - prices.
> This is a second version, to make the kits, technically correct, and  (
> except for the knuckles and lower control arms) , using all new parts
>
> Manny  has put in a lot of time and money to update,  the "Chevy , front end
> kits" .   He has to buy these kit parts at quantity 50, to get the lower
> prices.
>
> These front-end kits may become a standard up-grade as parts parts for our
> existing front ends, become increasingly hard to find, and repair of the
> existing parts becomes expensive and hard to support.
>
> 200,000 mile, maintenance free, front ends , will provide an excellent
> upgrade, that all of our vendors can support.
>
>
> Guess you needed to be at the Rally to hear their talk ;>)
> but at least, the rally information is being published, not held hostage ;>)
>
> gene
>
> --
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> -------
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Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124252 is a reply to message #124174] Mon, 02 May 2011 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,

Have Bill and Manny adjusted the lower control arm geometry to allow more caster without using offset bushings? Who do we contact for purchasing the kit?

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM

Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124253 is a reply to message #124252] Mon, 02 May 2011 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hal Kading wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 16:51

Gene,

Have Bill and Manny adjusted the lower control arm geometry to allow more caster without using offset bushings? Who do we contact for purchasing the kit?

Hal Kading 78 Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM



Who do I contact for more info on this kit, cost, availability, etc.. Maybe some pictures or install info


John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124254 is a reply to message #124252] Mon, 02 May 2011 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> Have Bill and Manny adjusted the lower control arm geometry to allow more
> caster without using offset bushings,



> yes but still use offset bushing (one on each side) about 4 .
>

Who do we contact for purchasing the kit?
>
Manny

gene



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Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech - [message #124265 is a reply to message #124169] Mon, 02 May 2011 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 05:27

> Manny has been working on this for a while now. He can make things happen
> so maybe he can sell them for half but there will be no profit for anyone.


strange thing to say

I relate it to LEDs, last years models sold for $36, this year models sold
for $16, next model will be even less. The technology has improved every
year as the price comes down,
and yet -------
some folks are making a lot of money selling the lower-cost versions of LEDs
.;>)


> I guess we will see shortly. That announcement will stop any further sales
> til something happens for sure.

New sales have almost doubled the number of systems already in place.

The business of installing these front ends is going to be very large.
Not going to stop sales, at all !!!

Hubler, and Manny are working very hard to make these front ends
technically correct, and available at -large quantity - prices.
This is a second version, to make the kits, technically correct, and (
except for the knuckles and lower control arms) , using all new parts

Manny has put in a lot of time and money to update, the "Chevy , front end
kits" . He has to buy these kit parts at quantity 50, to get the lower
prices.

These front-end kits may become a standard up-grade as parts parts for our
existing front ends, become increasingly hard to find, and repair of the
existing parts becomes expensive and hard to support.

200,000 mile, maintenance free, front ends , will provide an excellent
upgrade, that all of our vendors can support.


Guess you needed to be at the Rally to hear their talk ;>)
but at least, the rally information is being published, not held hostage ;>)

gene

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Sounds good to me. Anything to make the old frontend better and less of a headache is a good thing in my book. Just making sure you are reading the posts. Laughing
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech [message #124288 is a reply to message #124169] Mon, 02 May 2011 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
KB is currently offline  KB   United States
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>
> Who do we contact for purchasing the kit?
>> >
> Manny
>
> gene
>

Anybody got an email address for Manny? His hughes.net address doesn't work.

If somebody finds out the details of how to order the new Hubler-Travao front end kit
and how much it costs, please post it here. I want one!

thanks,

Karen
1973 23'
1975 26'

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Re: [GMCnet] KING CITY - tech [message #124299 is a reply to message #124288] Mon, 02 May 2011 18:40 Go to previous message
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you might try mannystrans@gmail.com

Roy

ote title=KB wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 15:44]
>
> Who do we contact for purchasing the kit?
>> >
> Manny
>
> gene
>

Anybody got an email address for Manny? His hughes.net address doesn't work.

If somebody finds out the details of how to order the new Hubler-Travao front end kit
and how much it costs, please post it here. I want one!

thanks,

Karen
1973 23'
1975 26'

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