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ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Our 4th day on Maui and I can only think of 2 thing to complain about:

    1. My GMC is all alone and unused on the Mainland.
    2. The price of gas on Maui is about $5/gallon.

I saw premium for almost $5.50!

I think they call it the Paradise tax.


Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, Ca
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Re: Gas prices [message #123697 is a reply to message #123691] Thu, 28 April 2011 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we have more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?

Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123703 is a reply to message #123697] Thu, 28 April 2011 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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The problem is Oil company Greed, and no one with the 'round items' to do
anything about it!
JWIT
Mike

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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>
> I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we have
> more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123707 is a reply to message #123703] Thu, 28 April 2011 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dwayne is currently offline  Dwayne   United States
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Come to Canada
Where everything is almost free (that is to look)

Regular gas $1.38 liter = $5.22 a US Gallon What I can burn in the GMC

Mid Grade $1.47 Liter = $5.56 a US Gallon What I burn in my
740IL

Premium $1.50 plus per liter = $5.68 a US Gallon What I burn in my 69
Avanti II (383 Stroker)

We have large gas and oil deposits right here in Canada.

Something many across the line do not know is that we pay dearly in Taxes
and that the Standard of Living here is lower than the majority of States.

Not crying because my Mother told me a long time ago - my face could freeze
like that.

Regards
One of the Frozen chosen Cheese Heads
Dwayne Jacobson
White Rock
77 Eleganza II
77 Kingsley
69 Avanti II
97 BMW 740IL
09 Tiburon
And one mountain bike plus 2 good legs

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The problem is Oil company Greed, and no one with the 'round items' to do
anything about it!
JWIT
Mike

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

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>
> I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we
have
> more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?
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> Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123709 is a reply to message #123707] Thu, 28 April 2011 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Dwayne

I'm not buying this one, "... the Standard of Living here is lower than the
majority of States."

Mike in NS




On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Dwayne Jacobson
<dwayne@havenproperties.ca>wrote:

> Come to Canada
> Where everything is almost free (that is to look)
>
> Regular gas $1.38 liter = $5.22 a US Gallon What I can burn in the GMC
>
> Mid Grade $1.47 Liter = $5.56 a US Gallon What I burn in my
> 740IL
>
> Premium $1.50 plus per liter = $5.68 a US Gallon What I burn in my
> 69
> Avanti II (383 Stroker)
>
> We have large gas and oil deposits right here in Canada.
>
> Something many across the line do not know is that we pay dearly in Taxes
> and that the Standard of Living here is lower than the majority of States.
>
> Not crying because my Mother told me a long time ago - my face could freeze
> like that.
>
> Regards
> One of the Frozen chosen Cheese Heads
> Dwayne Jacobson
> White Rock
> 77 Eleganza II
> 77 Kingsley
> 69 Avanti II
> 97 BMW 740IL
> 09 Tiburon
> And one mountain bike plus 2 good legs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Coach
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:00 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices
>
> The problem is Oil company Greed, and no one with the 'round items' to do
> anything about it!
> JWIT
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we
> have
> > more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?
> > --
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> > Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123711 is a reply to message #123703] Thu, 28 April 2011 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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I's got nothing to do with their cojones. It is everything to do with greed. If I were running this place, I would require us to use only local oil, cap the retail price at something that is reasonable and profitable to the oil companies ($1.00) then tax it an additional $1.00 and apply that tax to alternative energy (wind, solar, etc, Not switchgrass) and battery technology development. that $1 per gallon would add up very quickly and create a massive new industry and good jobs... But Washington is incapable of doing anything due to their pockets needing to be lined.

We had an interesting conversation today about Google and how it is investing in alternative energies. I basically have come to the conclusion that Google is staffed by a bunch of geeks like myself, and we want our Star Trek Society and Technology now. If everyone felt this way, I'd have a flying GMC.

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Kingsley Coach wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:59

The problem is Oil company Greed, and no one with the 'round items' to do
anything about it!
JWIT
Mike

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we have
> more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?
> --
> Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
> Coshocton OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123712 is a reply to message #123709] Thu, 28 April 2011 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dwayne is currently offline  Dwayne   United States
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Ok I could be off a little. The gas prices as they are have not discouraged
us enough to stop us from
Enjoying the great time we have in our GMC Coach. It may not have Slide
Outs but is can get in and out of
Just about anywhere that some of the Others have difficulty with. I just
hope gas is available for the next
50 years for us to enjoy our ride.

Dwayne in BC

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Dwayne

I'm not buying this one, "... the Standard of Living here is lower than the
majority of States."

Mike in NS




On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Dwayne Jacobson
<dwayne@havenproperties.ca>wrote:

> Come to Canada
> Where everything is almost free (that is to look)
>
> Regular gas $1.38 liter = $5.22 a US Gallon What I can burn in the GMC
>
> Mid Grade $1.47 Liter = $5.56 a US Gallon What I burn in my
> 740IL
>
> Premium $1.50 plus per liter = $5.68 a US Gallon What I burn in my
> 69
> Avanti II (383 Stroker)
>
> We have large gas and oil deposits right here in Canada.
>
> Something many across the line do not know is that we pay dearly in Taxes
> and that the Standard of Living here is lower than the majority of States.
>
> Not crying because my Mother told me a long time ago - my face could
freeze
> like that.
>
> Regards
> One of the Frozen chosen Cheese Heads
> Dwayne Jacobson
> White Rock
> 77 Eleganza II
> 77 Kingsley
> 69 Avanti II
> 97 BMW 740IL
> 09 Tiburon
> And one mountain bike plus 2 good legs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Coach
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:00 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices
>
> The problem is Oil company Greed, and no one with the 'round items' to do
> anything about it!
> JWIT
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Bill Brown <carguybill@sbcglobal.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I saw an e-mail recently that gas is $.09/gal in Saudi Arabia. and we
> have
> > more oil than they do! What's wrong with this picture?
> > --
> > Bill Brown - '77 Buckeye Cruiser
> > Coshocton OH
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Re: Gas prices [message #123720 is a reply to message #123691] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...Or a good hover conversion...

No more arguing about tires. Laughing


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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123721 is a reply to message #123703] Thu, 28 April 2011 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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..???...Greed ?...Yes ! ,but we eather have a FREE MARKET SYSTEM
or we dont. Dont forget that the fiduciary duty of any CEO and board of directors in to the SHARE HOLDERS...not the public.
The real problem is fiduciary law (globaly). Change that and you can require all mulinational co's to give greater concideration to local economic realities...of course that would negativly effect the bottom line, which would kill investment bla, bla, bla....think I'll go sit in my GMC and dream better dreams...

Dan who, like you all, will just have to live with it...HAPPY TRAILS...
Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123746 is a reply to message #123721] Thu, 28 April 2011 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take a look at the value of the dollar and compare to the price of a barrel of oil. They are mirror images. As the dollar declines the price of oil climbs. As I understand all oil is purchased in dollars so to maintain their profit margin oil companies increase the price of their product. So sure you could argue there is an element of greed there. The company I work for is based in Brazil and our product is sold in dollars as well. Our margins have been significantly reduced because of the decline of the dollar. Problem is we cannot raise our prices and be competitive. Our customers would look somewhere else. Oil companies got us by the johnson and until there is an alternative in the US market that competes with oil we are at their mercy. In Brazil, they have alcohol and gasoline and they are in constant competition with each other. People there have a choice and based on the price at any given day they can choose alcohol or gas. And then there is the issue with our government printing to much money which helping to drive down the dollar.

Just my two cents about gas prices.

Jon


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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123796 is a reply to message #123746] Fri, 29 April 2011 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Canada is the #2 supplier of oil to USA.
I have to wonder why gas costs so much up here.
We should turn off the pipeline to USA.
Problem is, we sold the rights years ago.
Something like buying Manhattan for $24.
Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123799 is a reply to message #123796] Fri, 29 April 2011 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My guess on the main reason for higher prices for
gasoline (and lots of other stuff) is a higher
taxation burden to pay for "social" services.

On another note, if "we" didn't buy Canada's oil
someone else would and then put it into the world-
wide pool and "we" would then pay a higher price
for it, but Canada would NOT get any more for it.

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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: jarvis210@shaw.ca
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:39:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices
>
>
>
> Canada is the #2 supplier of oil to USA.
> I have to wonder why gas costs so much up here.
> We should turn off the pipeline to USA.
> Problem is, we sold the rights years ago.
> Something like buying Manhattan for $24.
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123806 is a reply to message #123796] Fri, 29 April 2011 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Harry wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 11:39

Canada is the #2 supplier of oil to USA.
I have to wonder why gas costs so much up here.
We should turn off the pipeline to USA.
Problem is, we sold the rights years ago.
Something like buying Manhattan for $24.

Harry,
The Dominion has some other issues - too.
Fuel companies in Canada have to deal with some other taxes and regulations before they get to sell the fuel. Those amount to about 1$us/gal (.27ca/l) and then you get charged the extra GST and PST - 1.4$us/gal(.38ca/l) and look at the wonderful roads you get for all that money.

Then there is Michigan . . .
The fuel companies can do what they want, but we pay MiST (mi sales tax) on the price of the fuel plus the federal excise tax (.184/g) and then the state highway tax (.19/g), so we pay .02/g in sales tax for the privilege of paying the other taxes. Right now we are also paying an additional (approximate) 2.4M$ a week on just the increase in fuel price.

Oh, and in case you didn't hear it, Manhattan was an interesting swindle. The Dutch paid the people that were just passing through for their rights to the island. What they didn't know and did not ask was if the Canarsie had any rights to sell. It turns out that was Lenape land....

Some things just never change.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123832 is a reply to message #123806] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The organizations making to most profit from our fuel prices are the various Federal, State and Local taxing authorities. Oil companies make large profits, because of their size (total investment), not the profit per gallon of fuel.
Tom Phipps


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123836 is a reply to message #123832] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> The organizations making to most profit from our fuel prices are the various Federal, State and Local taxing authorities. Oil companies make large profits, because of their size (total investment), not the profit per gallon of fuel.


And who do you suppose puts down the freeways, bridges, etc that we use
that fuel on?

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch...

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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123837 is a reply to message #123806] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Harry,
The Dominion has some other issues - too."

Matt,... "The Dominion"?? there is a term that died up here long ago!

Very Happy


Bruce Hislop
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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123838 is a reply to message #123837] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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July 1 used to be Dominion Day.
The weak politicians changed it because the people in Quebec don't have a word for Dominion.
Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123840 is a reply to message #123836] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Think about this. electric plug in cars, best battery currently available,
50 mile range. Mass produce them to lower costs. Long distance travel by
auto impossible. Severe curtailment of long distance travel by automobile.
Bulk of long distance travel via MESS TRANSIT, busses, trains, airplanes. No
need to spend fortunes building roads and other foolishness like tunnels and
bridges. Greatly reduced need for fossil fuels for autos. Lower gasoline
revenues for taxing authorities. Smaller agencies needed to collect them
(fat chance of that). Instead of rush hour freeways clogged with automobiles
going nowhere, just a stream of filled to capacity public transportation
vehicles. Just the wild musings of a man with too much time on his hands? A
way to control things like Urban Sprawl, population density, greenhouse
gasses, keep track of who you are and where you go? Sound like a plan for
the brave new world? Just do nothing and wait and see what "We're from the
government, and we're here to help you" will bring to a neighborhood near
you, soon.<Just a little crazy, but it keeps me from goin' insane.>
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon, where the state legislature is currently in session.
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:21 PM, KRDietz <krdietz@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > The organizations making to most profit from our fuel prices are the
> various Federal, State and Local taxing authorities. Oil companies make
> large profits, because of their size (total investment), not the profit per
> gallon of fuel.
>
>
> And who do you suppose puts down the freeways, bridges, etc that we use
> that fuel on?
>
> There ain't no such thing as a free lunch...
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Re: Gas prices [message #123841 is a reply to message #123691] Fri, 29 April 2011 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think you'll find "Dominion" was finally dropped because of the Canada Act 1982, which severed the last vestiges of legal dependence on the British parliament.

GMC contend... my GMC run on highly taxed gasoline from Canada and other unknown sources.


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Re: [GMCnet] Gas prices [message #123857 is a reply to message #123838] Fri, 29 April 2011 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Harry wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 13:41

July 1 used to be Dominion Day.
The weak politicians changed it because the people in Quebec don't have a word for Dominion.


How about "Dominion" ??? (Sounds like a word to me!)

I didn't know what it meant... I looked it up...

And I thought Dominion was the bad guys on StarTrek Deep Space Nine!


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