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| Rear Brake Conversion [message #122952] |
Sat, 23 April 2011 21:03  |
thorndike
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Well, to add more things to my list of stuff to do.
I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always associated with worn brakes shoes. I have contacted John Evans in New York for new shoes, but he is out of them.
I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Since the only place I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this the type of job that could be done over a weekend? I would assume that having a location where the entire backend could be jacked up to work on both sides at the same time would be preferable, but I don't have that here.
Any thoughts? Suggestions? Warnings?
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #122957 is a reply to message #122952] |
Sat, 23 April 2011 21:25  |
Robin Hood
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I converted my B-body Pontiac from drums to disks up front in my
mother's carport. It took a year. She never gets tired of giving me
flack about it.
So don't use your mother's carport. :)
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com> wrote:
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> Well, to add more things to my list of stuff to do.
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> I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always associated with worn brakes shoes. I have contacted John Evans in New York for new shoes, but he is out of them.
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> I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Since the only place I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this the type of job that could be done over a weekend? I would assume that having a location where the entire backend could be jacked up to work on both sides at the same time would be preferable, but I don't have that here.
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> Any thoughts? Suggestions? Warnings?
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> Bob
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> Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #122958 is a reply to message #122952] |
Sat, 23 April 2011 21:34 |
gmcrv1
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Bob,
Try these guys. They are first class with fast turn around times. I use to
use them when I lived in NJ. I didn't realize how well known they were when
I lived there. I used them because they were in the next town from me.
Good Luck,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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> Well, to add more things to my list of stuff to do.
>
> I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the
> brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always
> associated with worn brakes shoes. I have contacted John Evans in New York
> for new shoes, but he is out of them.
>
> I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes
> appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Since the only place
> I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this
> the type of job that could be done over a weekend? I would assume that
> having a location where the entire backend could be jacked up to work on
> both sides at the same time would be preferable, but I don't have that here.
>
> Any thoughts? Suggestions? Warnings?
>
> Bob
> --
> Robert Peesel
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> 1976 Royale 26'
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> Side Dry Bath
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> Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #122982 is a reply to message #122958] |
Sun, 24 April 2011 02:02 |
Wayne Newland
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Bob
Have you found Leigh Harrison in Woodbridge, Va.? If not, you should. He
can help you.
Wayne Newland F9300 75 Palm Beach Sebastian, Fl (formerly
Columbia, Md)
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Bob,
Try these guys. They are first class with fast turn around times. I use to
use them when I lived in NJ. I didn't realize how well known they were when
I lived there. I used them because they were in the next town from me.
Good Luck,
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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> Well, to add more things to my list of stuff to do.
>
> I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the
> brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always
> associated with worn brakes shoes. I have contacted John Evans in New
York
> for new shoes, but he is out of them.
>
> I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes
> appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Since the only
place
> I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this
> the type of job that could be done over a weekend? I would assume that
> having a location where the entire backend could be jacked up to work on
> both sides at the same time would be preferable, but I don't have that
here.
>
> Any thoughts? Suggestions? Warnings?
>
> Bob
> --
> Robert Peesel
>
> 1976 Royale 26'
>
> Side Dry Bath
>
> Sterling, Va
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #123031 is a reply to message #122958] |
Sun, 24 April 2011 12:29 |
jimk
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We carry the same shoes as John Evans and are in stock.
We also stock our disc brake kit which you can install one side at a time.
Our disc system is not highly modified like some so parts a lot easier
to acquire.
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Tom Eckert <gmcrv1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob,
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> Try these guys. Â They are first class with fast turn around times. Â I use to
> use them when I lived in NJ. Â I didn't realize how well known they were when
> I lived there. Â I used them because they were in the next town from me.
>
> Good Luck,
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> Tom Eckert N2VWN
> 73 Glacier
> Oakland, TN
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> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Robert Peesel <thorndike@pldsllc.com>wrote:
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>> Well, to add more things to my list of stuff to do.
>>
>> I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the
>> brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always
>> associated with worn brakes shoes. Â I have contacted John Evans in New York
>> for new shoes, but he is out of them.
>>
>> I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes
>> appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Â Since the only place
>> I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this
>> the type of job that could be done over a weekend? Â I would assume that
>> having a location where the entire backend could be jacked up to work on
>> both sides at the same time would be preferable, but I don't have that here.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Suggestions? Warnings?
>>
>> Bob
>> --
>> Robert Peesel
>>
>> 1976 Royale 26'
>>
>> Side Dry Bath
>>
>> Sterling, Va
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| Re: Rear Brake Conversion [message #123065 is a reply to message #122952] |
Sun, 24 April 2011 18:11 |
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| thorndike wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 19:03 |
... I took my gmc for a ride tonight and was dismayed when I stepped on the brakes and heard the unmistakable grinding noise that I have always associated with worn brakes shoes. ...
... I started looking at upgrading to disk brakes in the back as the shoes appear to be getting harder to find according to John. Since the only place I have to work on my coach is in the street in front of my house, is this the type of job that could be done over a weekend? ...
... Any thoughts? ...
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Thoughts:
1. It isn't just the brake shoes... When I was in a number crunching mood, I figured out that if you needed to replace more than one brake drum, it would be cheaper to convert to discs. If you plan on keeping you coach for a while, this is one of those modifications that is a "no brainer." Like JimK says, be sure to select your kits with replacement parts in mind.
2. You still need to find a solution for the parking brake. I haven't seen a great solution, but I have a few ideas as I get closer to that point...
3. While this SHOULD* be a weekend project, I wouldn't want to do this parked in the street. Is there anyone close enough to you with a driveway big enough? Maybe mini-work-rally?
*Unless you work like me!
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: Rear Brake Conversion [message #123066 is a reply to message #123065] |
Sun, 24 April 2011 18:35 |
thorndike
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Mike,
Thanks for the thoughts. That is the line of thinking am I following.
I have a 10 hour drive (20 if you include the ride back!) ahead of me for the Bean Station Rally. I think I am going to have to find replacement shoes locally and try and get them installed over the next two evenings.
The upgrade to disc brakes are definitely next, or nearly next on the list.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #123099 is a reply to message #123083] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 09:42 |
jimk
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It is easy to say that there s no real differences for the rear shoes.
We know there is a difference between the off the shelve and the one
John E supplies us.
They are Carbon metallic and do not fade out quickly like the standard.
Now you know why we say it.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Hardie Johnson <hardie.j@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Doing the shoes and cylinders should not be a big deal; I did mine from Autozone Orielies Etc., it is standard brake work. Now if you have to replace DRUMs that is a big deal and disks become a consideration, but that should not be a concern before 120,000 miles.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #123101 is a reply to message #123099] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 10:07 |
thorndike
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Jim,
I have order some shoes locally so I can get to the rally safely. I will talk with you offline about the disc conversion afterward.
Bob
Robert Peesel
1976 Royale 26'
Side Dry Bath
Conifer, Colorado
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| Re: Rear Brake Conversion [message #123105 is a reply to message #122952] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 11:28 |
GeorgeRud
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I seem to remember that Jim Bounds was also recommending that people only use the rear brake shoes that were rivited, not just bonded on.
It does sound like the disc brake conversion is a nice modification when it's time to replace the drums. Using readily available replacement parts is always a plus with these vintage machines!
Is there a reliable and inexpensive parking brake solution for the disc brake conversion available?
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rear Brake Conversion [message #123147 is a reply to message #123145] |
Mon, 25 April 2011 17:37 |
KRDietz
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I relied on that parking pawl one time and I didn't think I was going to
get the the coach out of Park without breaking that pin off. .
Anything less than a slightly unlevel campsite and I set my parking
brake before engaging Park.
Kelvin
> Obviously we've come a long way from the old brick I used to carry around in my MGB! :lol: Wheel clocks are an excellent idea in any case! I sometimes shudder to think that I rely on a small tang in the transmission to hold things (but then again, I'm in norther Illinois so we don't have any elevation changes).
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Wheel clocks are an excellent idea in any case! I sometimes shudder to think that I rely on a small tang in the transmission to hold things (but then again, I'm in norther Illinois so we don't have any elevation changes).