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San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121496] Mon, 11 April 2011 00:17 Go to next message
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http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/2315051473.html

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Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121501 is a reply to message #121496] Mon, 11 April 2011 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Luvn737s wrote on Mon, 11 April 2011 01:17

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/rvs/2315051473.html

Darn nice coach. For the cost of airfare to SD . . .


Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121715 is a reply to message #121496] Wed, 13 April 2011 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I emailed the owner about it:

Quote:

Bed in rear, 25' long, 455cc engine, A/C. It has a generator but since we've owned it we haven't used it. (3 years). It has about 60k miles but gauges have been changed so they do not reflect mileage. Transmission was rebuilt about 4 years ago. Has some cosmetic stuff (wires/cable) that need covering inside (see pic). It starts and runs real well...brakes are good. Since it hasn't been used much in last few years will probably need a little attention engine-wise, i.e.: carburetor, etc...We have all the paperwork on it to any modifications done from the previous owners.


I have some pictures he sent that I could post - should I attach them to this thread or post them to gmcmhphotos.com?

As I am not knowledgeable on the issue, what are the typical problems one runs into from the RV not having been run much recently? While I find this one interesting, not sure when I would have time to go down to San Diego(I am in SF) to look at it.

tex
Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121717 is a reply to message #121715] Wed, 13 April 2011 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tex, best to put the pix on the photo site. He says interior wasn't finished. Did your contact or the pictures explain the "cosmetic stuff (wires/cable)"?

[quote title=tex-n wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 18:48]I emailed the owner about it:



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Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121722 is a reply to message #121496] Wed, 13 April 2011 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, here are the pictures he sent me:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5762

As you can see, the internal wiring he refers is exposed on the upper walls - are there normally cabinets covering this wiring? Or is that only on some models?

tex
Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121726 is a reply to message #121722] Wed, 13 April 2011 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks
ck this link for a discussion. That wire channel is easily covered with a plastic strip, Panduit should fit just fine. Then a cabinet is installed or not.
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=120412&rid=0#msg_120412

Good tires on Alcoa, looks like a pretty good buy.

tex-n wrote on Wed, 13 April 2011 20:35

OK, here are the pictures he sent me:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=5762

As you can see, the internal wiring he refers is exposed on the upper walls - are there normally cabinets covering this wiring? Or is that only on some models?

tex



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Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121737 is a reply to message #121726] Wed, 13 April 2011 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I will go look at it. I live in San Diego. They sure have come down in price, wait until gas hits 5 bucks. You will be able to buy any RV for a song. It's comming.....
I have seem nice diesel pushers for under $15K already. Forget your high dollar replacement insurance, they won't give you anything now.


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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121767 is a reply to message #121737] Thu, 14 April 2011 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at least
"worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the experience
out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
$4 a gallon would cost $800.
My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for less
than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance, camping
fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
more than round-trip commercial airfare.
Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
Getting there is half the adventure, no?

Gary Stoneking
Kicking tires at this point, but still looking


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> I will go look at it. I live in San Diego. They sure have come down in
> price, wait until gas hits 5 bucks. You will be able to buy any RV for a
> song. It's comming.....
> I have seem nice diesel pushers for under $15K already. Forget your high
> dollar replacement insurance, they won't give you anything now.
>
>
> Phil Swanson
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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121769 is a reply to message #121767] Thu, 14 April 2011 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What about the cost of meals/lodging/car rental? Not to mention the guy in the next hotel room having a party,smoker down the hall,uncomfortable bed?
Not being as close as you want to your final venue, not being able to pick up and leave whenever you want,not being able to bring with you all that you desire?
Weekend trip long distance maybe I fly
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It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at least
"worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the experience
out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
$4 a gallon would cost $800.
My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for less
than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance, camping
fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
more than round-trip commercial airfare.
Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
Getting there is half the adventure, no?

Gary Stoneking
Kicking tires at this point, but still looking


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> I will go look at it. I live in San Diego. They sure have come down in
> price, wait until gas hits 5 bucks. You will be able to buy any RV for a
> song. It's comming.....
> I have seem nice diesel pushers for under $15K already. Forget your high
> dollar replacement insurance, they won't give you anything now.
>
>
> Phil Swanson
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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121775 is a reply to message #121767] Thu, 14 April 2011 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary,
Don't buy an RV if you think you will save money especially a GMC. Owning a
GMC is a zero sum game. However if you like mechanical stuff, craftmanship
and meeting interesting folks then a GMC makes sense. My wife and I had
never really be "joiners". Sure, we have lots of friends but we've never
been "club" type people. Let me tell ya, the GMC folks are a hoot. We belong
to a couple of the clubs now and have a great time at the rally's we attend.
GMC's have little to do with cost of ownership and lots to do with lifestyle
choices. Aside from the "sleep in your own bed at night" benefits you:

1. Have a nationwide list of folks to help you if you have a problem.
2. 24 hour technicial support on every (yes every ) technical aspect of the
GMC via this forum and the web site.
3. Instant parts availability (and the RIGHT part) with one phone call on
either coast.
4. Instant information on the best places to stay nationwide.
5. If you do your own work a GMC Parts Interchange list to buy bits and
pieces locally if needed.
6. Lots of folks have specialty tools they will loan you.

I'm sure there are more.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA





----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Stoneking" <gary@stoneking.net>
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> It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at
> least
> "worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the
> experience
> out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
> with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
> $4 a gallon would cost $800.
> My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for
> less
> than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
> take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance,
> camping
> fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
> more than round-trip commercial airfare.,
> Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
> I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
> as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
> not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
> Getting there is half the adventure, no?
>
> Gary Stoneking
> Kicking tires at this point, but still looking
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Phil Swanson
> <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I will go look at it. I live in San Diego. They sure have come down in
>> price, wait until gas hits 5 bucks. You will be able to buy any RV for a
>> song. It's comming.....
>> I have seem nice diesel pushers for under $15K already. Forget your high
>> dollar replacement insurance, they won't give you anything now.
>>
>>
>> Phil Swanson
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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121778 is a reply to message #121769] Thu, 14 April 2011 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mostly it depends on where you want to spend your time as well as your money. Other thoughts:

-- While I do not fly very often, don't airline tickets go up with the price of fuel?

-- In the motorhome you should be able to eat at close to the same prices you would be paying at home. If you have "special needs" being able to prepare your own meals is priceless.

-- Some RV parks are almost as much as a hotel room, but you do not need to "connect" EVERY day... bondocking is cheap.

-- One thing that higher gas prices might need to be considered is towing... at some point, instead of towing it is cheaper to rent a car when you are staying in one place for a few days.

-- Sometimes getting there IS the adventure.

sgltrac wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:13

What about the cost of meals/lodging/car rental? Not to mention the guy in the next hotel room having a party,smoker down the hall,uncomfortable bed?
Not being as close as you want to your final venue, not being able to pick up and leave whenever you want,not being able to bring with you all that you desire? ...

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From: Gary Stoneking <gary@stoneking.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice

It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at least
"worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the experience
out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
$4 a gallon would cost $800.
My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for less
than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance, camping
fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
more than round-trip commercial airfare.
Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
Getting there is half the adventure, no? ...


Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo' http://m000035.blogspot.com
Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121784 is a reply to message #121775] Thu, 14 April 2011 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hnielsen2 is currently offline  hnielsen2   United States
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Gary;
Well said.
Amen
Howard
Alpine Ca

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:48 AM
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> Gary,
> Don't buy an RV if you think you will save money especially a GMC. Owning
> a
> GMC is a zero sum game. However if you like mechanical stuff, craftmanship
> and meeting interesting folks then a GMC makes sense. My wife and I had
> never really be "joiners". Sure, we have lots of friends but we've never
> been "club" type people. Let me tell ya, the GMC folks are a hoot. We
> belong
> to a couple of the clubs now and have a great time at the rally's we
> attend.
> GMC's have little to do with cost of ownership and lots to do with
> lifestyle
> choices. Aside from the "sleep in your own bed at night" benefits you:
>
> 1. Have a nationwide list of folks to help you if you have a problem.
> 2. 24 hour technicial support on every (yes every ) technical aspect of
> the
> GMC via this forum and the web site.
> 3. Instant parts availability (and the RIGHT part) with one phone call on
> either coast.
> 4. Instant information on the best places to stay nationwide.
> 5. If you do your own work a GMC Parts Interchange list to buy bits and
> pieces locally if needed.
> 6. Lots of folks have specialty tools they will loan you.
>
> I'm sure there are more.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Stoneking" <gary@stoneking.net>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice
>
>
>> It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at
>> least
>> "worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the
>> experience
>> out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of
>> fuel;
>> with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip
>> at
>> $4 a gallon would cost $800.
>> My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for
>> less
>> than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
>> take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance,
>> camping
>> fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand
>> dollars
>> more than round-trip commercial airfare.,
>> Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
>> I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV
>> travel
>> as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
>> not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
>> Getting there is half the adventure, no?
>>
>> Gary Stoneking
>> Kicking tires at this point, but still looking
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Phil Swanson
>> <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will go look at it. I live in San Diego. They sure have come down in
>>> price, wait until gas hits 5 bucks. You will be able to buy any RV for
>>> a
>>> song. It's comming.....
>>> I have seem nice diesel pushers for under $15K already. Forget your high
>>> dollar replacement insurance, they won't give you anything now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil Swanson
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121785 is a reply to message #121767] Thu, 14 April 2011 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Stoneking wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:06

It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at least
"worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the experience
out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
$4 a gallon would cost $800.
My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for less
than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance, camping
fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
more than round-trip commercial airfare.
Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
Getting there is half the adventure, no?

Gary Stoneking
Kicking tires at this point, but still looking


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Phil Swanson <woodyman1@sbcglobal.net>wrote:





Here is a study that would suggest otherwise:

http://www.rvia.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Vacation_Costs

I'm not sure this info is 100% correct, but it makes sense when you factor all the costs in.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121787 is a reply to message #121785] Thu, 14 April 2011 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you just going to fly from Twin Cities out
to San Diego then fly right back? I think you've
omitted all the other costs such as housing and
meals from this equation, Gary.

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> Gary Stoneking wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:06
>
> It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at least
> "worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the experience
> out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
> with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
> $4 a gallon would cost $800.
>
> My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for less
> than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
> take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance, camping
> fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
> more than round-trip commercial airfare.
>
> Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
>
> I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV travel
> as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
> not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
> Getting there is half the adventure, no?
>
> Gary Stoneking
> Kicking tires at this point, but still looking
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Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121789 is a reply to message #121787] Thu, 14 April 2011 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Stoneking is currently offline  Gary Stoneking   United States
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Mac,
I'd probably mooch off my lovely daughter and son-in-law while in San
Diego.
You're right, of course; there's no free lunch in life. I'd be helping with
groceries and gas for their second car, etc.
When my kids were little, about 35 years ago, we had a 27 foot class A
Sprinter motor home. We had a blast with that motor home. We made two
trips to Florida, one to the Canadian Rockies, a trip to the west coast from
Oregon to L.A. and back. Then I sold it. I have a photo of the gas pump
where I filled up near Big Sur. I was shocked at the price: 99.9! A buck
a gallon?!
There was something about getting started in the morning, the kids sleeping
in their bunks, coffee brewing, and time for just the two of us, that make
those memories special for me.
A little adventure (but not too much) keeps a person's blood circulating.
My wife mentioned the other day after I was extolling the virtues of finding
the "just-right" GMC coach, "Do you remember cleaning out the holding tank
in our Sprinter?" Yeah, I remember; but that's a minor inconvenience
compared to the adventure involved in the voyage. She had to agree.
Gary


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Are you just going to fly from Twin Cities out
> to San Diego then fly right back? I think you've
> omitted all the other costs such as housing and
> meals from this equation, Gary.
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>
>
> > Gary Stoneking wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:06
> >
> > It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at
> least
> > "worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the
> experience
> > out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
> > with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
> > $4 a gallon would cost $800.
> >
> > My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for
> less
> > than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
> > take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance,
> camping
> > fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
> > more than round-trip commercial airfare.
> >
> > Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
> >
> > I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV
> travel
> > as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
> > not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
> > Getting there is half the adventure, no?
> >
> > Gary Stoneking
> > Kicking tires at this point, but still looking
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Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121796 is a reply to message #121496] Thu, 14 April 2011 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Luvn737s is currently offline  Luvn737s   United States
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My brother owns a Piper Twin Comanche and I calculated that the fuel costs per mile are identical ($0.36/mi)at current fuel prices. The airplane is faster but the GMC is more comfortable.

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #121808 is a reply to message #121789] Thu, 14 April 2011 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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We started with a brand new 1966 Apache "Buffalo"
tent trailer. It visited many states over the years.
Actually, I still own it and it's now 45 years old;
older than my 76 GMC by 10 years. It's currently at
my daughter's home near Omaha.

Our family of four actually lived in it at what was
once a KOA on the north side of Oklahoma City when
we first arrived in Oklahoma after my four year tour
in Germany.

It's been to Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Hovenweep,
Durango, Chama, Mesa Verde, Petrified Forest, Painted
Desert, Mt St Helen's, Pacific Beach in WA, all over
the NE & SE USA, all along the Gulf Coast from TX to FL.

Many years ago, I wanted a Mallard "Sport" model M/H,
about 24' long. I really liked the "modern" interior
without all the frilly decorations. Your Sprinter was
probably a Mallard, IIRC.

I also lusted for the GMC when they first came out,
but the prices were WAY above what an Air Force
captain could afford.

Now, I'm trying to get "The Money Pit" into a safe
running condition so we can do THAT bit.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:03:23 -0500
> From: gary@stoneking.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice
>
> Mac,
> I'd probably mooch off my lovely daughter and son-in-law while in San
> Diego.
> You're right, of course; there's no free lunch in life. I'd be helping with
> groceries and gas for their second car, etc.
> When my kids were little, about 35 years ago, we had a 27 foot class A
> Sprinter motor home. We had a blast with that motor home. We made two
> trips to Florida, one to the Canadian Rockies, a trip to the west coast from
> Oregon to L.A. and back. Then I sold it. I have a photo of the gas pump
> where I filled up near Big Sur. I was shocked at the price: 99.9! A buck
> a gallon?!
> There was something about getting started in the morning, the kids sleeping
> in their bunks, coffee brewing, and time for just the two of us, that make
> those memories special for me.
> A little adventure (but not too much) keeps a person's blood circulating.
> My wife mentioned the other day after I was extolling the virtues of finding
> the "just-right" GMC coach, "Do you remember cleaning out the holding tank
> in our Sprinter?" Yeah, I remember; but that's a minor inconvenience
> compared to the adventure involved in the voyage. She had to agree.
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>
> >
> > Are you just going to fly from Twin Cities out
> > to San Diego then fly right back? I think you've
> > omitted all the other costs such as housing and
> > meals from this equation, Gary.
> >
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> > ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> > ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> > ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> > ~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
> > ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> > > Gary Stoneking wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 08:06
> > >
> > > It's interesting, isn't it? If the RV experience is affordable (or at
> > least
> > > "worth the money") when gas is $3 a gallon, does $5 gas make the
> > experience
> > > out of reach? Granted, that's a significant increase in the cost of fuel;
> > > with $5 gas at 10 mpg, a 2000 mile trip will cost $1000. The same trip at
> > > $4 a gallon would cost $800.
> > >
> > > My wife and I can still fly from Minneapolis to San Diego and back for
> > less
> > > than $600. A trip to San Diego in a GMC would be around $800, and would
> > > take a few days, and would entail additional costs for maintenance,
> > camping
> > > fees, etc. Round-trip cost would be $1600, or at least a thousand dollars
> > > more than round-trip commercial airfare.
> > >
> > > Even at $3 a gallon, it was cheaper to fly.
> > >
> > > I guess my point is that it was never really possible to justify RV
> > travel
> > > as a "cheap" alternative to other modes of transportation, and it's still
> > > not possible to justify an RV on that basis.
> > > Getting there is half the adventure, no?
> > >
> > > Gary Stoneking
> > > Kicking tires at this point, but still looking
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Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #122157 is a reply to message #121496] Sun, 17 April 2011 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tex-n is currently offline  tex-n   United States
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The owner emailed me that the coach has sold.
Re: San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #122175 is a reply to message #122157] Sun, 17 April 2011 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is another on the San Diego C/L for best offer. There are plenty of them coming up cheap now that gas is on the move. I had a chance to buy a See Ya pusher with 30K miles for under 50K!!
Wait for gas to hit 5 bucks and they will be even cheaper. I saw a 5 year old GMC on a P30 chassis with a 454 for 3500 bucks on C/L. Getting super cheap if you have cash. Cash is king. Doesn't make sense to put allot of bucks in these or any other RV now. If you want to upgrade, wait a little longer and get a diesel pusher. Putting money in a GMC is just money down the drain now.



Phil Swanson
Re: [GMCnet] San Diego GMC on CL - Looks Nice [message #122180 is a reply to message #122175] Mon, 18 April 2011 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Phil,

I disagree.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Putting money in a GMC is just money down the drain now.

Phil Swanson

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