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[GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121205] Thu, 07 April 2011 11:44 Go to next message
Don Hart is currently offline  Don Hart   United States
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'' adding grease Zerk's to front hubs''

Gee Mike, you are right, I have too many fingers for the lap top, and being
on the digest my responses are usually later and I don't see a way
to connect them. Thanks for understanding.

Emery, thanks I will try the grooving using one of my drum sanders with the
race one and turning on the drill press, them slotting them with the Demerol
tool. I just did not want jeopardize the integrity of the race, so I am
worried about depth.

Don
Central MI
75 Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121209 is a reply to message #121205] Thu, 07 April 2011 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Apr 7, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Don Hart wrote:

> '' adding grease Zerk's to front hubs''
>
> Gee Mike, you are right, I have too many fingers for the lap top, and being
> on the digest my responses are usually later and I don't see a way
> to connect them. Thanks for understanding.
>
> Emery, thanks I will try the grooving using one of my drum sanders with the
> race one and turning on the drill press, them slotting them with the Demerol
> tool. I just did not want jeopardize the integrity of the race, so I am
> worried about depth.
>
> Don
> Central MI
> 75 Glenbrook

In my last email I may not have been specific enough about the grooves that are needed.
I used a Dremel cutting disk to cut small groves along both sides of the spacer and across the outside. I did this at the 12 o’clock, 3, 6 and 9 o’clock positions. I then ground a very shallow groove all around the outside center line of the spacer. This allows grease to flow from the outside of the hub where the Zerk is located to the center of the wheel bearing.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121211 is a reply to message #121205] Thu, 07 April 2011 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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or buy them from Lenzi

gene


On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Don Hart <hartdna2@gmail.com> wrote:

> '' adding grease Zerk's to front hubs''
>
> Gee Mike, you are right, I have too many fingers for the lap top, and
> being
> on the digest my responses are usually later and I don't see a way
> to connect them. Thanks for understanding.
>
> Emery, thanks I will try the grooving using one of my drum sanders with
> the
> race one and turning on the drill press, them slotting them with the
> Demerol
> tool. I just did not want jeopardize the integrity of the race, so I am
> worried about depth.
>
> Don
> Central MI
> 75 Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121226 is a reply to message #121205] Thu, 07 April 2011 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Apr 7, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Don Hart wrote:

>
> Emery, thanks I will try the grooving using one of my drum sanders with the
> race one and turning on the drill press, them slotting them with the Demerol
> tool. I just did not want jeopardize the integrity of the race, so I am
> worried about depth.
>
> Don
> Central MI
> 75 Glenbrook

Don
In my last email I meant to ask you why you feel that you might be jeopardizing the integrity of the race?

The race is the part that the bearing rollers ride on. There is an inner race that is part of the bearing assembly and an outer race that is pressed into the hub.
You would be putting grooves into the spacer which is clamped securely betwee the two bearings. You can rest assured that there is no way that four grooves cut into the surface of the spacer will create any problems.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121280 is a reply to message #121205] Thu, 07 April 2011 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hardie Johnson is currently offline  Hardie Johnson   United States
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Don Hart wrote on Thu, 07 April 2011 12:44

Gee Mike, you are right, I have too many fingers for the lap top, <>
Emery, thanks I will try the grooving using one of my drum sanders with the race one and turning on the drill press, them slotting them with the Demerol tool.
<>

Looking at the layout on the gmcmhphoto site I think the Dremel slitting technique is too difficult. Heck, if the keyboard is a challenge, then that slit is going to be a bear!
I'm pretty sure that you don't need to actually slit the race, it is the spacer you are modifying, anyway, isn't it? Just enough to let the grease slide in.


Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121282 is a reply to message #121280] Thu, 07 April 2011 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Hardie,

I apologize in advance if what follows upsets you but all I KNOW is that
Dave Lenzi who I KNOW KNOWS a hell of a lot more about hubs and knuckles
than I ever will drills his spacers with a carbide drill and cuts a
circumferential slot in them.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Looking at the layout on the gmcmhphoto site I think the Dremel slitting
technique is too difficult. Heck, if the keyboard is a challenge, then that
slit is going to be a bear!
I'm pretty sure that you don't need to actually slit the race, it is the
spacer you are modifying, anyway, isn't it? Just enough to let the grease
slide in.

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121284 is a reply to message #121282] Thu, 07 April 2011 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Apr 7, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> Hardie,
>
> I apologize in advance if what follows upsets you but all I KNOW is that
> Dave Lenzi who I KNOW KNOWS a hell of a lot more about hubs and knuckles
> than I ever will drills his spacers with a carbide drill and cuts a
> circumferential slot in them.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.

It used to be fairly easy to drill the spacers but I believe that Timken started using hardened spacers and they are difficult to drill now.


Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121286 is a reply to message #121284] Thu, 07 April 2011 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Emery,

I got two sets of Timken No. 23 bearings from Jim K before I disassembled
the hubs / knuckles on The Blue Streak. After disassembling them I found
that they needed rebuilding so I called Dave Lenzi to make sure he could
rebuild them. During our conversation he mentioned that the spacers would
need to be drilled and slotted to get the grease to the bearings. He noted
that they were EXTREMELY hard. I told him no problem as I had cobalt drills.
He noted that I would probably burn out at least one cobalt drill drilling
the holes. He advised that he used carbide drills and it was hard on them
too! Needless to say I sent him the spacers along with the hubs and
knuckles.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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It used to be fairly easy to drill the spacers but I believe that Timken
started using hardened spacers and they are difficult to drill now.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs [message #121291 is a reply to message #121286] Fri, 08 April 2011 00:08 Go to previous message
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Dave also told me that the batch I sent him had bigger diameter
spacers than before so the grove around the spacer needed to be done.
Only Dave L could have made such observation.
We now have Dave or our machinist do that for us when we have requests.



On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> Emery,
>
> I got two sets of Timken No. 23 bearings from Jim K before I disassembled
> the hubs / knuckles on The Blue Streak. After disassembling them I found
> that they needed rebuilding so I called Dave Lenzi to make sure he could
> rebuild them. During our conversation he mentioned that the spacers would
> need to be drilled and slotted to get the grease to the bearings. He noted
> that they were EXTREMELY hard. I told him no problem as I had cobalt drills.
> He noted that I would probably burn out at least one cobalt drill drilling
> the holes. He advised that he used carbide drills and it was hard on them
> too! Needless to say I sent him the spacers along with the hubs and
> knuckles.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Emery Stora
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:13 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Grease Zerks Jigs
>
> It used to be fairly easy to drill the spacers but I believe that Timken
> started using hardened spacers and they are difficult to drill now.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
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