| Re: [GMCnet] George Delvecio call me. [message #120800] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 10:11  |
emerystora
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On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> About 1/2 hour ago.
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> We are thinking along the same trouble shooting path. There was no
> voltage on the two purple wire on the Neutral safety switch this
> morning. It looks like his problem is in the ignition switch.
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> I want to suggest at this point that he apply +12 to one of the
> purple wires at the neutral switch and see if the solenoid energizes.
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> Do you have his cell number?
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> Ken
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He tried that yesterday afternoon while on the phone with me and the
solenoid did not energize.
That is why I told him to check the wire at the solenoid end to see if
the connection was bad. I suggested that he jumper to it at the
starter to see if it would turn the starter. This would determine if
there was a bad solenoid/starter or if the problem was along the
purple wire or at the ignition switch.
I don't know why he didn't call me back. Maybe he thought you might
have some magical better advise but it looks like you have told him
exactly the same thing that Fisher and I did.
His phone number is: 315-945-0449
I called him again a few minutes ago and we totally repeated exactly
what I told him yesterday afternoon. This time when he jumpered to the
paper clip it started. Apparently he didn't have a good hot
connection last night so he thought my advice didn't work and he
called you and you told him the same thing.
I told him to replace the paper clip with two male spade connectors
connected with some wire and put in a hot lead to a momentary contact
switch. He had already purchased some wire and the switch this morning
so he will wire it in.
That will get him going and he can wait until he gets to Patterson to
determine if it's the ignition switch or the neutral safety switch.
I told him that I would tell you that he was running and that he would
see you at Patterson.
Emery Stora
On Apr 4, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> About 1/2 hour ago.
>
> We are thinking along the same trouble shooting path. There was no
> voltage on the two purple wire on the Neutral safety switch this
> morning. It looks like his problem is in the ignition switch.
>
> I want to suggest at this point that he apply +12 to one of the
> purple wires at the neutral switch and see if the solenoid energizes.
>
> Do you have his cell number?
>
> Ken
>
>
He tried that yesterday afternoon while on the phone with me and the
solenoid did not energize.
That is why I told him to check the wire at the solenoid end to see if
the connection was bad. I suggested that he jumper to it at the
starter to see if it would turn the starter. This would determine if
there was a bad solenoid/starter or if the problem was along the
purple wire or at the ignition switch.
I don't know why he didn't call me back. Maybe he thought you might
have some magical better advise but it looks like you have told him
the same thing that Fisher and I did.
His phone number is: 315-945-0449
I called him again a few minutes ago and we totally repeated exactly
what I told him yesterday afternoon. This time when he jumpered to the
paper clip it started. Apparently he didn't have a good hot
connection last night so he thought my advice didn't work and he
called you and you told him the same thing.
I told him to replace the paper clip with two male spade connectors
connected with some wire and put in a hot lead to a momentary contact
switch. He had already purchased some wire and the switch this morning
so he will wire it in.
That will get him going and he can wait until he gets to Patterson to
determine if it's the ignition switch or the neutral safety switch.
Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] George Delvecio call me. [message #120801 is a reply to message #120800] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 10:25  |
Ken Burton
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| emerystora wrote on Mon, 04 April 2011 10:11 |
He tried that yesterday afternoon while on the phone with me and the
solenoid did not energize.
That is why I told him to check the wire at the solenoid end to see if
the connection was bad. I suggested that he jumper to it at the
starter to see if it would turn the starter. This would determine if
there was a bad solenoid/starter or if the problem was along the
purple wire or at the ignition switch.
I don't know why he didn't call me back. Maybe he thought you might
have some magical better advise but it looks like you have told him
the same thing that Fisher and I did.
His phone number is: 315-945-0449
I called him again a few minutes ago and we totally repeated exactly
what I told him yesterday afternoon. This time when he jumpered to the
paper clip it started. Apparently he didn't have a good hot
connection last night so he thought my advice didn't work and he
called you and you told him the same thing.
I told him to replace the paper clip with two male spade connectors
connected with some wire and put in a hot lead to a momentary contact
switch. He had already purchased some wire and the switch this morning
so he will wire it in.
That will get him going and he can wait until he gets to Patterson to
determine if it's the ignition switch or the neutral safety switch.
Emery Stora
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Thanks Emery. I also just talked to him. He is going and we will look at it later for a permanent fix at the rally.
I strongly suspect the problem is the ignition switch or the mechanics in the column that pull the rod to the ignition switch.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] George Delvecio call me. [message #120810 is a reply to message #120801] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 12:00 |
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When this happened to me a few years back, it turned out to be the purple wire itself between the neutral switch and the solenoid. I was in Florida, Walmart parking lot. Bought some wire there and ran it from the solenoid up to the switch. Disconnected the purple wire at both ends. It has been working fine ever since, about 4 years.
Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] George Delvecio call me. [message #120813 is a reply to message #120810] |
Mon, 04 April 2011 12:52 |
Ken Burton
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Location: Hebron, Indiana
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In this case we have him applying +12 volts to the purple wire (going to the solenoid) at the neutral safety switch. The solenoid energizes so the wire is OK. When neutral switch is jumpered out it still fails so it is out of the picture. There is no +12 at the other purple wire at the neutral switch so the problem is upstream towards the ignition switch. It is probably a worn linkage to the pull rod in the steering column or the ignition switch itself.
He now know how to bypass the problem temporarily so we will look at it more thoroughly at the GMCMI rally.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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