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16" Steel wheels [message #120795] Mon, 04 April 2011 09:45 Go to next message
cbwoodsr is currently offline  cbwoodsr   United States
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Finally obtained the # for a 16" steel wheel that fits 80mm calipers/etc..
28177


Am repainting then checking the fit and will get an email from JimK on what needs to be adjusted/ground off on caliper.




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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #120797 is a reply to message #120795] Mon, 04 April 2011 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CBWoodSR wrote on Mon, 04 April 2011 10:45

Finally obtained the # for a 16" steel wheel that fits 80mm calipers/etc..
28177

Am repainting then checking the fit and will get an email from JimK on what needs to be adjusted/ground off on caliper.

Charles,

Whose part number is that?
Are you going to acquire and test fit?

Matt (eagerly awaiting after last year's fiasco)


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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #120805 is a reply to message #120797] Mon, 04 April 2011 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats the number stamped on the wheel(used)..

After repainting will test fit, JimK replied that an area might need to be ground down some on caliper (dont know if thats the area already covered on previous messages), will get email from him on that, after that am taking it to southwestwheels this thurs and seeing if they can provide it, then will mount tire and put on coach...

Like you, I also have a significant frustration factor on this..

will advise


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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #120806 is a reply to message #120795] Mon, 04 April 2011 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If they do fit, please try to share the information with the list. As our 16.5" tires become obsolete, this would provide a nice alternative for those that do not wish to upgrade to the aluminum wheels.

George Rudawsky
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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #120825 is a reply to message #120806] Mon, 04 April 2011 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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exactly.. thats why I will also updating both Jim's..
I know there's a bunch of 'us' out there..


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icon8.gif  Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121265 is a reply to message #120795] Thu, 07 April 2011 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Finally..figured out the 16" steel wheel stuff..
28177 is for pre 2001? 1 ton truck DUALLY wheels,C30: 3500/etc

the 29587's will not fit one w/80mm calipers..
they may fit w/70mm's, dont know or have tried..

Southwheel does not know of any like the 28177's being made (unless you want to order somewhere around 10,000 wheels or so..)
Mac has some that are chrome, had Venezula? stamping on inside of wheel, no definitive wheel number..

@JimK.. will get 6 more of those used wheels from you

@All.. if you want 16" steel wheels, start looking at salvage/recycle yard for them. the only ones available are the ones you can find.

thats about it...

thankx


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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121272 is a reply to message #121265] Thu, 07 April 2011 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have Firestone (Accuride) made wheels, #27994, that came off an early '80's GM 1 ton truck. Bore is approx. 4 9/16"
Here is a dealer with new wheels. Scroll down a couple...
http://www.accuridewheels.com/lighttruckwheels.pdf

I looked a little further and found this...
16x6K wheel P/N 29587 replaces...
27756
27994
28177
28374, etc.

[Updated on: Thu, 07 April 2011 21:04]

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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121281 is a reply to message #121272] Thu, 07 April 2011 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Harry wrote on Thu, 07 April 2011 20:56

I have Firestone (Accuride) made wheels, #27994, that came off an early '80's GM 1 ton truck. Bore is approx. 4 9/16"
Here is a dealer with new wheels. Scroll down a couple...
http://www.accuridewheels.com/lighttruckwheels.pdf

I looked a little further and found this...
16x6K wheel P/N 29587 replaces...
27756
27994
28177
28374, etc.
CBWood provided the bottom line, although it wasn't at the bottom of his post:
"the 29587's will not fit one w/80mm calipers.."
27994 might fit w/80mm calipers, but ACCURIDE ONLY SELLS THE 29587 (as a replacement for the 28177 and the 27994, and others). The 29587 is what has been described as "truncated cone". What GMCers with 80mm calipers need are what have been described as "dome shaped". I don't know if the 27994 is dome shaped or not, I don't have access to one. My $.02 would be that if you want to migrate to 16" wheels, and you (like me) prefer "flexible" steel to "brittle" aluminum, and/or your budget is as tight as mine, you have to find 6 domed rims at a wrecking yard. If you have a few more dollars to spend, the ones at http://www.trailerandtruckparts.com/16-x-6-Light-Truck-Dual-Mounting-Wheel-X-45460_p_928.html&catid=59 look to be domed, but I don't have the money to buy one (plus shipping) to find out if it works (much less enough nickels for 6 of them). If they would work, at about $100 each, they would be less than half the cost of aluminum wheels, AND THEY ARE STEEL. If a few folks from this forum want to go in as a group to have one of our fellow GMCers near Cypress, CA buy one and find out for sure if they would fit over the 80mm calipers, I could contribute $10 or $20 to the "experiment". Here is the bottom line on the 29587 one more time in case the reader dozed off while I was ranting:
"the 29587's will not fit one w/80mm calipers.."
Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121292 is a reply to message #120795] Fri, 08 April 2011 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This doesn't help me, but I found these on Craigslist in Spokane.
http://spokane.craigslist.org/pts/2306895095.html.

I think these would fit from what I've read.


George Rudawsky
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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121311 is a reply to message #121281] Fri, 08 April 2011 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These look like they will fit, i will be getting one..

The center HAS TO come straight out from the rim a few inches before it curves back in a definite bell top shape.
In dallas for a few days, so it will be around a week or so before I can get to it..
Thankx for the info..



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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121312 is a reply to message #121281] Fri, 08 April 2011 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure on these..
Looked further with the X45460 # on Accuride's document and it fits the 92 -07 Ford E350, so the hub size will be the 5.00" rather than the 4.96? we need. IIRC, someone has a spacer? that will let these fit.


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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121326 is a reply to message #121312] Fri, 08 April 2011 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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5.00 isn't much larger than 4.96
Or is it 4.69?
Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121345 is a reply to message #121326] Fri, 08 April 2011 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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whoops, sorry; thats

16" dual wheel with 8-6.5" bolt circle and 4.56" center bore.

these need/should be hub piloted although others can be made to work?


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Re: 16" Steel wheels [message #121350 is a reply to message #121345] Fri, 08 April 2011 20:33 Go to previous message
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CBWoodSR wrote on Fri, 08 April 2011 16:43

16" dual wheel with 8-6.5" bolt circle and 4.56" center bore.

these need/should be hub piloted although others can be made to work?


Any wheel needs a method to center it. Most dually steel wheels are flat and pilot centered. Hub piloted wheels are the only wheels that you need to worry about the pilot hole size.

If you use lug-centered wheels, you do not need to worry about pilot hole size... as long as it is big enough to clear the middle of the hub on your application.

If the wheel (steel or not) is lug centered, the lug nuts need to match the wheel. Sometimes that is fairly hard to get nuts that match both the lugs and the wheel.

(Note: If your spare doesn't match your 'road' wheels, make sure you carry 8 lug nuts that match your spare.)


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