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| Dan's on the move [message #118812] |
Mon, 14 March 2011 15:35  |
Bob de Kruyff
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Hey Dan--it looks like the GMC and Vibe are on the move but not connected. Are you still breaking in the new engine or did the boss want some quality time 
Bob de Kruyff
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #118942 is a reply to message #118883] |
Tue, 15 March 2011 21:59  |
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Hi, Dan.
Before you decide to sell the Brakepro, you need to review
state statutes regarding the requirement for separate brakes
on towed vehicles.
Some states require brakes at anything over 1,000 pounds!
I believe that you can get a list from Good Sam, AAA, and
probably lots of other sources!
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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:43:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move
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> No, they were connected but the Vibe was turned off. The GMC tracker stopped hitting way out west on hiway 190 just east of Ft. Stockton. The new engine towed the Vibe really good. I am going to sell my Roadmaster Brakepro. With these new brakes it is not worth the trouble to take 2 minutes and set it up.
> We had Jerry Wheeler behind us. Drove almost 700 miles in 12 hours. Stopped at least 5 times. Twice I was under the coach. Will try to get a few pics on the blog later today.
> We are sitting in Kingsland, Tx. now. Got here at 11 am. Teri and Billie are gone playing cards, and Teri took my 20 dollar bill. Time for my nap.
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #118951 is a reply to message #118942] |
Tue, 15 March 2011 22:51 |
Bob de Kruyff
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This brake issue is a touchy subject since state (and Canadian) laws vary. We have taken a stance that anything under 3000# does not require brakes and up to now that has been accepted. There are also many references to interstate travel including exceptions for vehicles on interstate highways passing through a particular state. States cannot enact their own acts which restrict interstate travel. Frankly you need to be your own judge on this, but if your system is adequate (which it sounds like it is) you should be OK.
Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #118960 is a reply to message #118883] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 01:37 |
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Ken Burton arrived tonight at the San Jose airport.
They are here to pick up the 73 GMC and drive it back with his
Daughter, Heather.
They should be ready to head back Wed. afternoon.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> No, they were connected but the Vibe was turned off. The GMC tracker stopped hitting way out west on hiway 190 just east of Ft. Stockton. The new engine towed the Vibe really good. I am going to sell my Roadmaster Brakepro. With these new brakes it is not worth the trouble to take 2 minutes and set it up.
> We had Jerry Wheeler behind us. Drove almost 700 miles in 12 hours. Stopped at least 5 times. Twice I was under the coach. Will try to get a few pics on the blog later today.
> We are sitting in Kingsland, Tx. now. Got here at 11 am. Teri and Billie are gone playing cards, and Teri took my 20 dollar bill. Time for my nap.
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #118981 is a reply to message #118958] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 10:21 |
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mike miller
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| jtblank wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 23:00 |
Dan,
I was looking at your pics on your blog and noticed you have committed the most heinous GMC crimes..... getting under it without jacks or jack stands. ...
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I would agree with you if he was any farther to the rear. But in the only pictures I saw, he was near the front tires. While it is POSSIBLE for a torsion bar to snap or something. It is not nearly as likely as an air-line popping off, bag blowing or ect.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119051 is a reply to message #118951] |
Wed, 16 March 2011 22:20 |
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NJ turnpikes are one area that I bet would pull you over if they suspected no brakes. They don't allow tow dollies or any combination of vehicles totaling over 70ft on the turnpikes. A few of my drag racing buddies have been fined heavily while passing through the state with a long trailer behind their SOB. So much for interstate travel being forgiving!
Thanks,
Les Burt
On 2011-03-15, at 11:51 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:
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> This brake issue is a touchy subject since state (and Canadian) laws vary. We have taken a stance that anything under 3000# does not require brakes and up to now that has been accepted. There are also many references to interstate travel including exceptions for vehicles on interstate highways passing through a particular state. States cannot enact their own acts which restrict interstate travel. Frankly you need to be your own judge on this, but if your system is adequate (which it sounds like it is) you should be OK.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119147 is a reply to message #119051] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 02:32 |
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G'day,
This is VERY interesting, where might one find the Federal Highway
Regulations?
The reason I ask is I will have a VW Beetle to tow behind the GMC and don't
intend to use a tow bar that will actuate the VW's brakes. I towed it behind
John Sharpe's Chrysler Van when I bought it and didn't even know it was back
there.
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
On 2011-03-15, at 11:51 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:
This brake issue is a touchy subject since state (and Canadian) laws vary.
We have taken a stance that anything under 3000# does not require brakes and
up to now that has been accepted. There are also many references to
interstate travel including exceptions for vehicles on interstate highways
passing through a particular state. States cannot enact their own acts which
restrict interstate travel. Frankly you need to be your own judge on this,
but if your system is adequate (which it sounds like it is) you should be
OK.
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78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119151 is a reply to message #119147] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 07:43 |
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 18 March 2011 03:32 |
G'day,
This is VERY interesting, where might one find the Federal Highway Regulations?
The reason I ask is I will have a VW Beetle to tow behind the GMC and don't intend to use a tow bar that will actuate the VW's brakes. I towed it behind John Sharpe's Chrysler Van when I bought it and didn't even know it was back there.
Regards,
Rob M.
This brake issue is a touchy subject since state (and Canadian) laws vary.
We (as Uhaul?) have taken a stance that anything under 3000# does not require brakes and up to now that has been accepted. There are also many references to interstate travel including exceptions for vehicles on interstate highways passing through a particular state. States cannot enact their own acts which restrict interstate travel. Frankly you need to be your own judge on this, but if your system is adequate (which it sounds like it is) you should be OK.
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Rob,
To try to answer your question of can you toe a Bug with a GMC, I don't believe you will have an issue. It would still be good to be ready to defend your position.
The interstate regulations are a small part of the CFR and I don't even begin to remember how to locate it. The other problem is that the state police that patrol the interstate highways do not understand that the state laws may not apply if your destination is not within their state. I used to have these problems all the time when I was dragging sailboats and racecars all over the eastern half of this country.
If you are interested, this is be best layout of what you have to deal with that I have seen.
url<http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm>
Since some states treat a towd as a trailer, some don't and some don't seem to know what they think (if they do at all). I don't think anybody can be sure.
Good Luck
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119154 is a reply to message #119147] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 08:21 |
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Hardie Johnson
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Fri, 18 March 2011 03:32 |
G'day,This is VERY interesting, where might one find the Federal Highway Regulations?
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Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Umm, there are no Federal Highway Regulations; each State has written their own. There is a set of guidelines somewhere out there, I'm sure.
The Constitution provides for free flow of commerce to be regulated by Congress:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause
So one interpretation is, as expressed here, that if your destination is in another State, they can't interfere.
Try that on a trooper 
At any rate, in the event of an accident you had best have a vehicle that conforms with the law. Generally speaking, a toad needs brakes.
"not trying to make a Federal case of it"
Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119169 is a reply to message #119147] |
Fri, 18 March 2011 10:52 |
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Each state has it's own rules on trailer (or tow'd) brakes.
In California, a tow'd IS considered a trailer and IF it
exceeds 1500#, it MUST have braking capability. Seems to me
that FMCA used to have a chart on their website that covered
this.
On 3/18/2011 12:32 AM, Rob Mueller wrote:
> G'day,
>
> This is VERY interesting, where might one find the Federal Highway
> Regulations?
>
> The reason I ask is I will have a VW Beetle to tow behind the GMC and don't
> intend to use a tow bar that will actuate the VW's brakes. I towed it behind
> John Sharpe's Chrysler Van when I bought it and didn't even know it was back
> there.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> On 2011-03-15, at 11:51 PM, Bob de Kruyff<NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:
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> This brake issue is a touchy subject since state (and Canadian) laws vary.
> We have taken a stance that anything under 3000# does not require brakes and
> up to now that has been accepted. There are also many references to
> interstate travel including exceptions for vehicles on interstate highways
> passing through a particular state. States cannot enact their own acts which
> restrict interstate travel. Frankly you need to be your own judge on this,
> but if your system is adequate (which it sounds like it is) you should be
> OK.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Dan's on the move [message #119231 is a reply to message #118953] |
Sat, 19 March 2011 01:05 |
Adrien G.
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Dan,
You may feel that the Vib brakes don't add any to the overall stopping distance, and it may be true. But, God forbid, the Vib or other toad, breaks free and runs into some one else or ?, because there was no system to apply brakes to stop the toad. You would not forgive yourself.
I have seen a trailer, with a sand load, get loose and I wouldn't have believe the damage I saw, if it was told to me.
I like you blog.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
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