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Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116346] Thu, 24 February 2011 10:58 Go to next message
gbarrow2 is currently offline  gbarrow2   United States
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I recently noticed that my headlights dim and then re-brighten (is that a word?) frequently while driving at night.

Last night I noticed that when the lights dim the alternator/amp meter goes negative. It only lasts for a few seconds and then the ampmeter switches back to positive and the lights come back up.

Any suggestions as to finding the cause of this and repairing it?

I have never been happy with the light from the stock headlights but have not wanted to install one of the upgrade kits that have been discussed on this forum.

Last week I bought some Sylvania High Performance Lighting sealed beams ($19 and change each at O'Reilly's) They made a huge difference. I guess the bulb technology has changed a bit. No need to change anything else with these bulbs.

The fluctuating brightness issue existed before and after I changed the bulbs so that's not the cause.

I have never noticied the ampmeter fluctuating when driving without the lights.

I'm not having battery or charging problems yet. The engine battery is about 6 months old and the house 6v batteries are only 2 years old.

I did not notice the alt light come on when the ampmeter went negative but I did not specifically look at the light.

All suggestions will be appreciated.




Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116347 is a reply to message #116346] Thu, 24 February 2011 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Feb 24, 2011, at 9:58 AM, gene barrow wrote:

>
>
> I recently noticed that my headlights dim and then re-brighten (is that a word?) frequently while driving at night.
>
> Last night I noticed that when the lights dim the alternator/amp meter goes negative. It only lasts for a few seconds and then the ampmeter switches back to positive and the lights come back up.
>
> Any suggestions as to finding the cause of this and repairing it?
>
> I have never been happy with the light from the stock headlights but have not wanted to install one of the upgrade kits that have been discussed on this forum.
>
> Last week I bought some Sylvania High Performance Lighting sealed beams ($19 and change each at O'Reilly's) They made a huge difference. I guess the bulb technology has changed a bit. No need to change anything else with these bulbs.
>
> The fluctuating brightness issue existed before and after I changed the bulbs so that's not the cause.
>
> I have never noticied the ampmeter fluctuating when driving without the lights.
>
> I'm not having battery or charging problems yet. The engine battery is about 6 months old and the house 6v batteries are only 2 years old.
>
> I did not notice the alt light come on when the ampmeter went negative but I did not specifically look at the light.
>
> All suggestions will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Barrow
> Lake Almanor, Ca.
> 1976 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116354 is a reply to message #116347] Thu, 24 February 2011 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery,
Thanks for the reply. I'm sure there is a message in there some where but I can't find it. Lost in the ether.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116366 is a reply to message #116354] Thu, 24 February 2011 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First check your terminals at the battery to make sure they are clean and tight.
If they are all right then you might be having a voltage regulator problem. It is built into the alternator. Take the alternator to an auto parts store for free testing.
It might need replacement.

Emery Stora

On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:36 AM, gene barrow wrote:

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> Emery,
> Thanks for the reply. I'm sure there is a message in there some where but I can't find it. Lost in the ether.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116369 is a reply to message #116366] Thu, 24 February 2011 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, but the negative-going ammeter pretty much rules out the battery
connections. There's an intermittent short somewhere. Look for chafed
wiring somewhere -- could be in the tail light wiring, but it's more likely
in the headlight wiring because it's not fuse protected (for safety reasons)
and tail lights are.

The voltage regulator is a possibility, but I'd say the probability is small
compared to the short. An intermittent regulator might not be found by a
short parts store test.

Ken H.


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

> First check your terminals at the battery to make sure they are clean and
> tight.
> If they are all right then you might be having a voltage regulator problem.
> It is built into the alternator. Take the alternator to an auto parts
> store for free testing.
> It might need replacement.
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Feb 24, 2011, at 10:36 AM, gene barrow wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Emery,
> > Thanks for the reply. I'm sure there is a message in there some where but
> I can't find it. Lost in the ether.
> > --
> > Gene Barrow
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Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116375 is a reply to message #116369] Thu, 24 February 2011 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Gene,
I usuall rewire upgraded headlights with relays when I redo an old car. Some Halogens require more juice than our old wires can safely provide, which can lead to wire melt.
I simply run a new wire from the headlight switch to a relay behind each headlight and a 12 gauge wire from the battery or other heavy duty hot terminal to each relay. Then wire the relay with a ground and new pigtails to the headlights. You will have a new system and unless the headlight switch is defective it provides all the 12V you will need. Summit even sells a kit for this.

Nick R.


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Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116379 is a reply to message #116375] Thu, 24 February 2011 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Tighten / replace the alternator belt and try again. They are only about $6.00 at AutoZone. This sounds like a worn / slipping belt.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Head light / Alternator Issue Sylvania High performance seald beams. [message #116420 is a reply to message #116375] Thu, 24 February 2011 20:18 Go to previous message
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pickle4k wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 12:25

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I simply run a new wire from the headlight switch to a relay behind each headlight and a 12 gauge wire from the battery or other heavy duty hot terminal to each relay. Then wire ...


Good and recommended modification. For less than the cost of wires and separate crimp connectors, you can find wiring harnesses several different places to do this... with nice heat shrinked connections and plugs. (Most will need to have one side extended to fit our GMC's.)

But when you mount your relays, mount them with the connections down.

The PO of my '77 mounted them behind the headlights with the connections up. He never drove it after doing this modification but the relays collected water and rusted out.


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