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Hello, my wife is wondering where to get a replacement or a fix for our 1975 shower curtain. Most of the hooks are still there, but a regular shower curtain is too bulky.

Also, we have the original curtains in the windows and my wife isn't a fan. She's wondering what kind of blinds everyone recommends and a good place to purchase them.

As you can tell, she's "in charge" of the interior and I handle the "boy" stuff as she calls it!

Thank you for all of your help!

Jon


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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115870 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I finally quit stalling and phoned up the Guske's about the window systems they have. They don't have a web site and don't plan to start one but I had a nice chat and they're mailing out a brochure.

She told me that they have day/night blinds for the whole coach for $680 and an interior windshield curtain with new tracks for $180 both in many custom colors. I may be missing a detail or two since I don't have it in my hands, but I'm looking forward to getting the brochure and seeing more.

The phone number is on the one-page at http://www.bdub.net/guske

DC
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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115871 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon,
I have a side wet bath and just used a regular shower curtain. I
measured the width needed to cover the door and cut the curtain. The
remaining large part covers the sink area end to end. So, no water on
the sink/sliding doors nor the door to the hallway.
JWID!!

Roger Black
77 Birchaven
Burns, Tn




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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115886 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Terry Taylor's wife, Debra does the drapes.
The fact that the side walls on the coach are curved,people install
the mini venition blinds.
Some have had luck with the Day and night blinds,but have heard some
strange things happening with them after short time.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Hello, my wife is wondering where to get a replacement or a fix for our 1975 shower curtain. Most of the hooks are still there, but a regular shower curtain is too bulky.
>
> Also, we have the original curtains in the windows and my wife isn't a fan. She's wondering what kind of blinds everyone recommends and a good place to purchase them.
>
> As you can tell, she's "in charge" of the interior and I handle the "boy" stuff as she calls it!
>
> Thank you for all of your help!
>
> Jon
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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115892 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Jon,

You don't say what coach model you have, so my Birchaven may be too
different to be of interest. But, we just use a WalMart special clear
plastic shower curtain, cut to size with scissors. In the Birch, the clear
surround makes the little shower seem larger.

We use the same kind of curtain behind the cockpit seats to close off that
area during especially hot or cold conditions. My intention was that the
clear curtain would make the closed cockpit less claustrophobic. But we
never need it when travelling; mostly it's closed during <40*F weather so
our little ceramic heaters can keep up.

As for the windshield curtain, I installed the Guske accordion fold curtain.
I would no do so again. Not because of any complaint about Margaret's
product, but because that configuration is just too inconvenient in my
cockpit, both when it was original and with my custom dash. To begin with,
I had to trim the curtain shorter so it could close over the aftermarket
seats' cushions. Even then, the steering wheel forced the curtain too far
to the rear, so I made the steering wheel removable. Still, the curtain can
only hand straight down so that it does absolutely nothing to reduce the
flow of cold air off of the windshield. I'd prefer to have a standard
"drape" up front, with a slightly weighted bottom hem, so that we could
throw it up on top of the dash, near the windshield, providing both privacy
and some insulation.

For side and rear window coverings, I consider our cellular blinds to be
nearly perfect. Their material is some sort of durable paper or cloth,
covered with plastic so that they're waterproof. The end view of the
material looks like a couple of rows of honeycomb, each lined with aluminum
foil for insulation. The advertised R-factor is greater than that of RV
dual pane windows. After 12 years, ours look as good as the day I installed
them. Here's the best photo I've got; the blinds are closed on the right
side:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=456&cat=3055

Notice that the blinds hang inside curved valences which force them to
follow the curvature of the coach sides. It's VERY important that the
bottoms of the valences are enclosed also -- it's amazing how much cold air
flows down off of the glass when the blinds are raised just out of the
bottom valence.

If there's a shortcoming of those blinds, it's that they admit NO light when
closed. There are similar blinds now available that can be lowered from the
top as well as raised from the bottom; that would allow privacy and light
admission.

We bought these from Home Depot. IIRC, they were made by Hunter-Douglas.
SHE would never let me see the bill, so they were probably expensive;
they're worth it.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Jon Roche <lqqkatjon@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello, my wife is wondering where to get a replacement or a fix for our
> 1975 shower curtain. Most of the hooks are still there, but a regular shower
> curtain is too bulky.
>
> Also, we have the original curtains in the windows and my wife isn't a fan.
> She's wondering what kind of blinds everyone recommends and a good place to
> purchase them.
> ...
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76 X-Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115908 is a reply to message #115871] Sun, 20 February 2011 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Desmond,
Talk to Bounds and see what he says about the blind and also Tom
Hampton befor you make the purchase.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Roger Black <r1black@comcast.net> wrote:
> Jon,
> I have a side wet bath and just used a regular shower curtain.  I
> measured the width needed to cover the door and cut the curtain.  The
> remaining large part covers the sink area end to end.  So, no water on
> the sink/sliding doors nor the door to the hallway.
> JWID!!
>
> Roger Black
> 77 Birchaven
> Burns, Tn
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115910 is a reply to message #115908] Sun, 20 February 2011 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken, you had me right up until you said Elaine would not show you the bill. Keep her away from Teri at Patterson cuz we are looking for side curtains to fit in the boxes Teri made last year.
Dan


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Re: Curtains [message #115915 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here are three pix with a couple of ideas for your bath curtains.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37811&title=img-00045&cat=500

I use only one curtain and it is on the sink side. In order to gain more elbow room I fasten it back against the wall just behind the light. When not in use i snap it back against itself to the right of the sink and out of the way. The metal backed weather stripping seals the door quite effectively eliminating a need for a curtain of any sort on this wall.

Glenn


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Re: Curtains [message #115917 is a reply to message #115867] Sun, 20 February 2011 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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I must be too fat, as I can barely fit me and the water in there, much less a couple of shower curtains. I threw mine out and never replaced them. I usually shower with the door open so I can move my elbow, and am just a little careful about where I point the hand held sprayer. Helps to remember to slide the doors shut over the toilet paper too. But, on the other hand, maybe that's why I'm single . . .

Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115921 is a reply to message #115917] Sun, 20 February 2011 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene1 is currently offline  gene1   United States
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You might try this pleated curtain from Camping World
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/product/pleated-shower-door/1963 It
fits just in front of the sink area. The door area on the Eleganza was
already covered with some sort of waterproof material and there is a drain
just outside the door. It stores very neatly, just like it shows on the ad.
I didn't install the bottom rail, but the top is long enuf for my eleganza
and the side rails stick on OK. I think I used several small sheet metal
screws to keep them in place when it gets hot in there. Works good for me
and keeps the sink area and the toilet paper dry.
Regards, Gene 76 Eleganza North County San Diego

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>
>
> I must be too fat, as I can barely fit me and the water in there, much
> less a couple of shower curtains. I threw mine out and never replaced
> them. I usually shower with the door open so I can move my elbow, and am
> just a little careful about where I point the hand held sprayer. Helps to
> remember to slide the doors shut over the toilet paper too. But, on the
> other hand, maybe that's why I'm single . . .
> --
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> '77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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Re: [GMCnet] Curtains [message #115948 is a reply to message #115908] Mon, 21 February 2011 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Those are two guys who I do not know (yet), so...

How about it, 'Net. What are the pros and cons of day/night cellular blinds? I'm trying to keep the temperature under control, especially the warm air inside during the cold trips. I'm not sure the best way to make that happen, but I'm sure that my mini blinds don't help.

DC

On Feb 20, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:

> Desmond,
> Talk to Bounds and see what he says about the blind and also Tom
> Hampton befor you make the purchase.
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cellular and day/night curtains [message #115954 is a reply to message #115870] Mon, 21 February 2011 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I need for you guys to get a little more basic for me.

How are cellular different from day/night, or are
they the same thing?


Also, looking at my Palm Beach it appears that the
cabinets would need to be removed to install them.

Is that the only way?



Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: cellular and day/night curtains [message #115994 is a reply to message #115954] Mon, 21 February 2011 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bukzin wrote on Mon, 21 February 2011 08:46

I need for you guys to get a little more basic for me.



Also, looking at my Palm Beach it appears that the
cabinets would need to be removed to install them.

Is that the only way?







Sir: It is probably best way depending on what you use?? My PO changed the rods, 2 screws on each end. He drilled holes in the back of the cabinets for a long screwdriver. I have a set out of an Avion with 8 screws on top I hope to use. I never noticed the other holes till I was trying to figure out how PO did that.


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] cellular and day/night curtains [message #116012 is a reply to message #115954] Mon, 21 February 2011 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard,

My nomenclatures may be subject to debate, but here they are:

Day-Night shades are accordion-folded single-layer material which can be
raised or lowered to utilize more or less translucent material.

Cellular (or Honeycomb) blinds have multiple layers of material which form
the cells of the honeycomb, trapping air from vertical movement. They're
available in translucent or opaque versions, with the latter being much
better insulators. There may be versions available with both opaque and
translucent sections, similar to the Day-Night shades.

Google the nomenclatures, or visit a site like Hunter-Douglas' to see the
wide range of window treatments offered.

The one kind I would NEVER consider is mini-blinds. They offer no thermal
protection and are the very devil to clean -- which they ALWAYS need. Yes,
that opinion is based on experience -- plenty (TOO much) of it.

Removing cabinets from the Palm Beach (or other GMC-fitted coaches) isn't a
very bad job -- they're "mass production" items which fit precisely and are
mounted with machine screws. (Provided, of course, than none of the captive
nuts spin on you.)

Ken H.


On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I need for you guys to get a little more basic for me.
>
> How are cellular different from day/night, or are
> they the same thing?
>
>
> Also, looking at my Palm Beach it appears that the
> cabinets would need to be removed to install them.
>
> Is that the only way?
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] cellular and day/night curtains [message #116014 is a reply to message #116012] Mon, 21 February 2011 18:59 Go to previous message
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Ken,

I agree with your nomenclatures below, however, mini blinds, do offer one
advantage over the other two types listed; they can be lowered and angled so
that people can't look in and yet still allow air flow through them with the
windows open.

With the other types they must be lowered and airflow can only come in
through the ends or bottom as long as it's not up against the wall.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Richard,

My nomenclatures may be subject to debate, but here they are:

Day-Night shades are accordion-folded single-layer material which can be
raised or lowered to utilize more or less translucent material.

Cellular (or Honeycomb) blinds have multiple layers of material which form
the cells of the honeycomb, trapping air from vertical movement. They're
available in translucent or opaque versions, with the latter being much
better insulators. There may be versions available with both opaque and
translucent sections, similar to the Day-Night shades.

Google the nomenclatures, or visit a site like Hunter-Douglas' to see the
wide range of window treatments offered.

The one kind I would NEVER consider is mini-blinds. They offer no thermal
protection and are the very devil to clean -- which they ALWAYS need. Yes,
that opinion is based on experience -- plenty (TOO much) of it.

Removing cabinets from the Palm Beach (or other GMC-fitted coaches) isn't a
very bad job -- they're "mass production" items which fit precisely and are
mounted with machine screws. (Provided, of course, than none of the captive
nuts spin on you.)

Ken H.


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