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Fri, 18 February 2011 20:17  |
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Today I installed a coach full of G4.RV3N-Flex LED bulbs from prudentrver.com. They are rated at 200 lumen, warm white color with a G4 connector on about 50mm leads. They consume ~0.2 amps, easily surpass the light output of the 10w halogen bulbs in my puck light fixtures and seem to be nearly the same light output as the 20 watt halogen bulbs I also tested in those puck light fixtures. They are about the same diameter as the glass lenses on the fixtures so the emitter board stays centered without any mechanical fasteners. I just yanked out the cast pop metal heat sink for the halogens that also serves as the reflector and they were an easy, quick fit. Color temperature appears to be nearly identical to the halogens. They are Buck driven with voltage regulated over a range up to 30 or so volts according to the vendor web site so should outlast the coach and handle well the widely variable dc voltage they will see in real world coach use. I have tried different LEDs fro
m a variety of internet sources and these are far better and much brighter than any I have seen to date. Unit cost was $18 with free shipping. They exceeded my expectations and I can highly recommend them if you have puck lights with G4 bulb connectors in your GMC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115619 is a reply to message #115605] |
Fri, 18 February 2011 21:22  |
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In a message dated 2/18/2011 8:17:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
glwork@mac.com writes:
Today I installed a coach full of G4.RV3N-Flex LED bulbs from
prudentrver.com. They are rated at 200 lumen, warm white color with a G4 connector on
about 50mm leads. They consume ~0.2 amps, easily surpass the light output
of the 10w halogen bulbs in my puck light fixtures and seem to be nearly
the same light output as the 20 watt halogen bulbs I also tested in those
puck light fixtures. They are about the same diameter as the glass lenses on
the fixtures so the emitter board stays centered without any mechanical
fasteners. I just yanked out the cast pop metal heat sink for the halogens
that also serves as the reflector and they were an easy, quick fit. Color
temperature appears to be nearly identical to the halogens. They are Buck
driven with voltage regulated over a range up to 30 or so volts according to
the vendor web site so should outlast the coach and handle well the widely
variable dc voltage they will see in real world coach use. I have tried
different LEDs fro
m a variety of internet sources and these are far better and much brighter
than any I have seen to date. Unit cost was $18 with free shipping. They
exceeded my expectations and I can highly recommend them if you have puck
lights with G4 bulb connectors in your GMC.
Jerry
Jerry and Sharon Work
78 Royale rear lounge
Kerby, OR
glwork@mac.com
http://jerrywork.com
541-592-5360
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115678 is a reply to message #115605] |
Sat, 19 February 2011 10:05 |
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Today I installed a coach full of G4.RV3N-Flex LED bulbs from prudentrver.com. They are rated at 200 lumen, warm white color with a G4 connector on about 50mm leads. They consume ~0.2 amps, easily surpass the light output of the 10w halogen bulbs in my puck light fixtures and seem to be nearly the same light output as the 20 watt halogen bulbs I also tested in those puck light fixtures.
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That is very good news. 2 tenths of an amp per light is not bad. Do they give you the life of the lamp?? I think they talk about 50,000 hours.
I am considering LED for when I start to attempt booning, yeah, I wanna by like Dan and Terri, be able to cut the cable so to speak. I had added a 55watt solar panel to keep the battery up, this will be helpful when I cut for booning but I'll need to add a panel or two more.
I like the lighting of my wall to wall indirect lightinag florescents and they are great at the camp ground. I also have 4 wall lights, they are screw in type, 15 watt power consumption with 60 watt flourescent light output for when I want to cut the power consumption down. But booning wont take to even this power consumption favorably. I have been dabbling into the LED lighting for a few years, but the lighting that was available was more or less for indicators or led sound graph equipment. The recent years have made some strides and I look forward to meeting up with Dan to see his lighting. I have a feeling I may be making a purchase....
( a little off topic ) I recently read an article about older RV trailers. The article was about restoration of a very tired caravan. What interested me was this caravan only had three lights in the ceiling, about 6" diam with one automotive type bulb each. Not much more. The power feed was from the tow vehicle. ( not recommended in todays campers ).
part of his restore was to include two 60 watt solar panels to keep the battery up.... They would be including low power lighing.
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115726 is a reply to message #115611] |
Sat, 19 February 2011 15:57 |
Ken Henderson
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Dan,
Done. Enjoyed reading the blog -- I forget to visit.
So sorry about your engine, especially having been there a couple of times
myself. Sure hard to understand how these things can just suddenly decide
to give up the ghost -- or not.
At least my first one, the day after I bought the GMC, left behind a
telltale broken valve spring when it self-destructed. The second one spun a
bearing <50 miles after a professional rebuild. REALLY weird when you
consider that the one I personally rebuilt (30+ years after the last
previous one) is pushing 80,000 miles now. Despite all the missed
precautions I now know I should have taken.
We still want y'all to make the Pre-FMCA rally. We're gonna build a TH424,
or two.
Ken H.
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dan Gregg wrote:
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> ... hit my link from the blog and I will make a dime. Mite help me dig my
> way out of this mess. :lol:
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115728 is a reply to message #115678] |
Sat, 19 February 2011 16:10 |
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LED Lights;
What Are The LED Part #s For My '78 GMC Eleganza II ?
According to my 78 GMC Operating Manual I will need
to replace these 25 Interior and 23 Exterior Lights
in order to go green with the LEDs ~
Original Part @ - - - Quantity Needed - - - LED Part #
bulb # - - 67 - - - - - 13 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - - 74 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - -194 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1141 - - - - - 17 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1156 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1157 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # = 1383 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb @ - 6014 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Any Suggestions ?
~ Joe ~
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115759 is a reply to message #115728] |
Sat, 19 February 2011 20:57 |
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Don't replace the brake light/turn signal bulbs!
John Ruff
| bishop1 wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 15:10 |
LED Lights;
Original Part @ - - - Quantity Needed - - - LED Part #
bulb # - - 67 - - - - - 13 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - - 74 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - -194 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1141 - - - - - 17 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1156 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # - 1157 - - - - - -4 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb # = 1383 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
bulb @ - 6014 - - - - - -2 bulbs - - - - - ___________
~ Joe ~
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John Ruff
Chandler, AZ
1975 Eleganza
WA3RIG
If I use ZDDP in a new car - will the tappets go flat?
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115808 is a reply to message #115806] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 09:57 |
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Replacing the brake/turn signal bulbs should only be replaced with a DOT approved complete fixture.
If you just replace the bulb - it will probably not be DOT approved. Most of them are marked FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY.
This is important because in case anyone should ever run into you - you could be charged with the accident even if it wasn't your fault. Insurance companies may also use this non-conformance as an excuse to not pay for the damage caused.
| bukzin wrote on Sun, 20 February 2011 08:34 |
John,
Why not?
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John Ruff
Chandler, AZ
1975 Eleganza
WA3RIG
If I use ZDDP in a new car - will the tappets go flat?
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115823 is a reply to message #115605] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 12:11 |
Chr$
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Insurance companies suck.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115826 is a reply to message #115823] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 12:19 |
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| Chr$ wrote on Sun, 20 February 2011 12:11 |
Insurance companies suck.
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Never forget that the insurance company has GREAT motivation to take money in but NOT to pay it out if they can find ANY reason to avoid the outflow.
(SteveS - who gets more cynical the older he gets but still can't seem to keep up. I.E. I should be much more cynical but hope springs eternal.)
Steve Southworth
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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115843 is a reply to message #115808] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 14:01 |
Ken Henderson
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This is probably too close to political, but I think it's more fundamental
than that, so here goes: I was recently cautioned about recommending the
non-EPA-approved HC12a refrigerant, now there's this. Those are merely
rather innocuous examples of rampant problems caused by the usurpation of
our individual responsibility by the government, including the courts; and
other agencies, such as insurance companies and "do-gooders".. Virtually
everything we do to or with our coaches, our cars, our homes, our kids, our
pets, even our own bodies, somehow violates a government regulation, a
"politically correct" tenet, or an interest group's agenda. Somewhere
between the White House, PETA, and the mosque, everything we do, including
breathing, upsets someone. And there's probably a law against it,
administered by some master-less bureaucracy. Each of us could recite a
thousand examples so there's no need for me to do so.
Bureaucracies are created for good and valid reasons; but, they also are
also inevitably prone to the accumulation of power above and beyond those
well intentioned (though frequently ill-conceived) reasons. Thus it is with
DOT, EPA, TSA, NRC, FTC, FAA, xyz, etc., etc. They have grown in manpower,
budget, breadth of control, and intrusion into our lives far beyond any
rational justifications.
Suppose they had existed before Henry Ford built his first car? Do you
think we'd have an oil crisis today? Not likely -- horses don't use much
oil and that's how we'd be getting around. In fact, we probably wouldn't
even have any assistance as innovative as bicycles -- the early ones scared
the horses, so obviously present bureaucratic rules would prohibit them.
The whole point of this rant is that we've allowed ourselves to be castrated
by the government, losing not just the freedom to act on our own behalf and
that of others, but the fundamental ability to strike out in new directions.
It's wrong, it's detrimental to us in more ways than there's room to
mention, and it will lead inevitably to the decline of our nation in
relation to others where more individual initiative is allowed.
Do I support the current push, no matter how futile, to reduce the budget,
power, and size of the Federal Government? 'Deed I do! Even if it shuts
down the government for a few months and I don't get my retirement checks --
whether caught up later or not.
End of rant.
Ken "Unrepentant" H.
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, John Ruff <j_r_ruff@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Replacing the brake/turn signal bulbs should only be replaced with a DOT
> approved complete fixture.
>
> If you just replace the bulb - it will probably not be DOT approved. Most
> of them are marked FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY.
>
> This is important because in case anyone should ever run into you - you
> could be charged with the accident even if it wasn't your fault. Insurance
> companies may also use this non-conformance as an excuse to not pay for the
> damage caused.
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115846 is a reply to message #115843] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 14:25 |
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Very Well Said, Mr Henderson!!!
Kerry Tandy
Bewartz Farms
Gold Canyon, AZ
Efax-253-563-2514
To see where we are now, click on
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Pray Incessantly!!!
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 13:01, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> This is probably too close to political, but I think it's more fundamental
> than that, so here goes: I was recently cautioned about recommending the
> non-EPA-approved HC12a refrigerant, now there's this. Those are merely
> rather innocuous examples of rampant problems caused by the usurpation of
> our individual responsibility by the government, including the courts; and
> other agencies, such as insurance companies and "do-gooders".. Virtually
> everything we do to or with our coaches, our cars, our homes, our kids, our
> pets, even our own bodies, somehow violates a government regulation, a
> "politically correct" tenet, or an interest group's agenda. Somewhere
> between the White House, PETA, and the mosque, everything we do, including
> breathing, upsets someone. And there's probably a law against it,
> administered by some master-less bureaucracy. Each of us could recite a
> thousand examples so there's no need for me to do so.
>
> Bureaucracies are created for good and valid reasons; but, they also are
> also inevitably prone to the accumulation of power above and beyond those
> well intentioned (though frequently ill-conceived) reasons. Thus it is
> with
> DOT, EPA, TSA, NRC, FTC, FAA, xyz, etc., etc. They have grown in manpower,
> budget, breadth of control, and intrusion into our lives far beyond any
> rational justifications.
>
> Suppose they had existed before Henry Ford built his first car? Do you
> think we'd have an oil crisis today? Not likely -- horses don't use much
> oil and that's how we'd be getting around. In fact, we probably wouldn't
> even have any assistance as innovative as bicycles -- the early ones scared
> the horses, so obviously present bureaucratic rules would prohibit them.
>
> The whole point of this rant is that we've allowed ourselves to be
> castrated
> by the government, losing not just the freedom to act on our own behalf and
> that of others, but the fundamental ability to strike out in new
> directions.
> It's wrong, it's detrimental to us in more ways than there's room to
> mention, and it will lead inevitably to the decline of our nation in
> relation to others where more individual initiative is allowed.
>
> Do I support the current push, no matter how futile, to reduce the budget,
> power, and size of the Federal Government? 'Deed I do! Even if it shuts
> down the government for a few months and I don't get my retirement checks
> --
> whether caught up later or not.
>
> End of rant.
>
> Ken "Unrepentant" H.
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:57 AM, John Ruff <j_r_ruff@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Replacing the brake/turn signal bulbs should only be replaced with a DOT
> > approved complete fixture.
> >
> > If you just replace the bulb - it will probably not be DOT approved.
> Most
> > of them are marked FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY.
> >
> > This is important because in case anyone should ever run into you - you
> > could be charged with the accident even if it wasn't your fault.
> Insurance
> > companies may also use this non-conformance as an excuse to not pay for
> the
> > damage caused.
> >
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115851 is a reply to message #115823] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 14:37 |
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On Feb 20, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Chris wrote:
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> Insurance companies suck.
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, bag. The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
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Gee -- I guess you can add them to your list which probably already includes lawyers, doctors, politicians, Walmart, etc. etc. etc. :) :) :)
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115860 is a reply to message #115853] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 15:42 |
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Dan,
Please tell me you asked John to check the thrust prior to disassembly,
please? If so, what was it?
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Kerry Tandy wrote on Sun, 20 February 2011 14:25
> > Very Well Said, Mr Henderson!!!
> >
> > Kerry Tandy
> > Bewartz Farms
> > Gold Canyon, AZ
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> Thanks for showing back up Kerry. I miss your little notes.
> Dan
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> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations [message #115885 is a reply to message #115843] |
Sun, 20 February 2011 17:32 |
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Ken,
WHO IS JOHN GALT?
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] LED lights that exceeded my expectations
This is probably too close to political, but I think it's more fundamental
than that, so here goes: I was recently cautioned about recommending the
non-EPA-approved HC12a refrigerant, now there's this. Those are merely
rather innocuous examples of rampant problems caused by the usurpation of
our individual responsibility by the government, including the courts; and
other agencies, such as insurance companies and "do-gooders".. Virtually
everything we do to or with our coaches, our cars, our homes, our kids, our
pets, even our own bodies, somehow violates a government regulation, a
"politically correct" tenet, or an interest group's agenda. Somewhere
between the White House, PETA, and the mosque, everything we do, including
breathing, upsets someone. And there's probably a law against it,
administered by some master-less bureaucracy. Each of us could recite a
thousand examples so there's no need for me to do so.
Bureaucracies are created for good and valid reasons; but, they also are
also inevitably prone to the accumulation of power above and beyond those
well intentioned (though frequently ill-conceived) reasons. Thus it is with
DOT, EPA, TSA, NRC, FTC, FAA, xyz, etc., etc. They have grown in manpower,
budget, breadth of control, and intrusion into our lives far beyond any
rational justifications.
Suppose they had existed before Henry Ford built his first car? Do you
think we'd have an oil crisis today? Not likely -- horses don't use much
oil and that's how we'd be getting around. In fact, we probably wouldn't
even have any assistance as innovative as bicycles -- the early ones scared
the horses, so obviously present bureaucratic rules would prohibit them.
The whole point of this rant is that we've allowed ourselves to be castrated
by the government, losing not just the freedom to act on our own behalf and
that of others, but the fundamental ability to strike out in new directions.
It's wrong, it's detrimental to us in more ways than there's room to
mention, and it will lead inevitably to the decline of our nation in
relation to others where more individual initiative is allowed.
Do I support the current push, no matter how futile, to reduce the budget,
power, and size of the Federal Government? 'Deed I do! Even if it shuts
down the government for a few months and I don't get my retirement checks --
whether caught up later or not.
End of rant.
Ken "Unrepentant" H.
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