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Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Does anyone know the bore size for the Powermaster MC?

Larry Smile
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Re: Powermaster MC [message #115604 is a reply to message #115600] Fri, 18 February 2011 20:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 21:01

Does anyone know the bore size for the Powermaster MC?






No Sir: but I did find this laying around.
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/brakes/usrecall.html


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Re: Powermaster MC [message #115635 is a reply to message #115604] Fri, 18 February 2011 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C Boyd wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 20:12

Larry wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 21:01

Does anyone know the bore size for the Powermaster MC?






No Sir: but I did find this laying around.
http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/brakes/usrecall.html

Thanks but I still need to know the bores size....anyone?


Larry Smile
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Re: Powermaster MC [message #115657 is a reply to message #115600] Sat, 19 February 2011 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 20:01

Does anyone know the bore size for the Powermaster MC?



Larry;
I don't think the bore size is much over an inch, perhaps not even an inch. I think I have a powermaster unit on the storage shelves somewhere. If you are in to powermaster, check this out.


http://tinyurl.com/465tjts


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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115659 is a reply to message #115635] Sat, 19 February 2011 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

I find different numbers, but 1-1/8* seems most likely. You might check
with these folks, considering their claims:

http://www.grandnationalspecialties.com/servlet/the-320/BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-POWERMASTER/Detail

<http://www.grandnationalspecialties.com/servlet/the-320/BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-POWERMASTER/Detail>
http://goo.gl/dXDIF

Ken H.
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'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115693 is a reply to message #115659] Sat, 19 February 2011 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 07:00

Larry,

I find different numbers, but 1-1/8* seems most likely. You might check
with these folks, considering their claims:

http://www.grandnationalspecialties.com/servlet/the-320/BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-POWERMASTER/Detail

<http://www.grandnationalspecialties.com/servlet/the-320/BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-POWERMASTER/Detail>
http://goo.gl/dXDIF

Ken H.
Americus, GA
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> Larry wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 21:01
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Thanks Ken and Bob D. I'm considering the rear disc brake upgrade and wonder if the PM will handle it. Seems like the MC that is recommended for that conversion has a 1 1/4" bore.


Larry Smile
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Re: Powermaster MC [message #115701 is a reply to message #115600] Sat, 19 February 2011 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's funny because among the Turbo Buick community, there is a large quarum (myself not included) that believes removing the 'troublesome' Powermaster is the way to go. Here in the GMC world people want to add them. If you change the brake fluid yearly I have found them to be quite trouble free. However very few people spend the $5 to to that and ruin them with contaminatied fluid.

John Lebetski
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115718 is a reply to message #115635] Sat, 19 February 2011 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,
If you're still at my house, there are two in a plastic tub above the
cabinets on the S. side of the shop, about in the middle or just aft of that
towards the rear of the shop.

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> C Boyd wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 20:12
> > Larry wrote on Fri, 18 February 2011 21:01
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> > No Sir: but I did find this laying around.
> > http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/brakes/usrecall.html
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> Thanks but I still need to know the bores size....anyone?
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115731 is a reply to message #115693] Sat, 19 February 2011 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,

While trying to find the bore diameter, I ran across a note from Al
Hamilton, some years back, stating that he had to remove his beloved
PowerMaster because of adding rear discs -- not enough volume.

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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115733 is a reply to message #115731] Sat, 19 February 2011 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm using a Power Master with rear discs (80mm mid and 50mm rear with
parking brake lever).

To get enough volume, I had to reverse the brake lines at the master cylinder.

My local Carquest had the fittings in stock for reversing the lines.

I'm using yellow stuff pads; at first, the braking was quick, but as
they age (18 months), they need to heat before stopping. I'm planning
to go back to carbon metallics.

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> While trying to find the bore diameter, I ran across a note from Al
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> PowerMaster because of adding rear discs -- not enough volume.
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115742 is a reply to message #115731] Sat, 19 February 2011 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 16:38

Larry,

While trying to find the bore diameter, I ran across a note from Al
Hamilton, some years back, stating that he had to remove his beloved
PowerMaster because of adding rear discs -- not enough volume.

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Well, there's Al Hamilton and Chuck Garton....Now what??

"To get enough volume, I had to reverse the brake lines at the master cylinder."

Maybe it will work. Thanks for your research into this.


Larry Smile
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Menomonie, WI.
Re: Powermaster MC [message #115744 is a reply to message #115701] Sat, 19 February 2011 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnL455 wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 13:40

It's funny because among the Turbo Buick community, there is a large quarum (myself not included) that believes removing the 'troublesome' Powermaster is the way to go. Here in the GMC world people want to add them. If you change the brake fluid yearly I have found them to be quite trouble free. However very few people spend the $5 to to that and ruin them with contaminatied fluid.


I've been replacing brake fluid every 2 yrs. Use the "Super Blue" fluid, alternating blue and amber fluids. Got to much time, effort and money in that system to *NOT* spend the extra every two years.


Larry Smile
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115745 is a reply to message #115733] Sat, 19 February 2011 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck Garton wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 17:04

I'm using a Power Master with rear discs (80mm mid and 50mm rear with
parking brake lever).

To get enough volume, I had to reverse the brake lines at the master cylinder.

My local Carquest had the fittings in stock for reversing the lines.

I'm using yellow stuff pads; at first, the braking was quick, but as
they age (18 months), they need to heat before stopping. I'm planning
to go back to carbon metallics.

Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA




Thanks Chuck,
Do you have the 80's on the front also?


Larry Smile
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Re: Powermaster MC [message #115746 is a reply to message #115600] Sat, 19 February 2011 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,,,hope you're doing well. Was wondering how bad the damage was??? Thought of you the other day when I was removing the HVAC box. Of course the Wiper resevour has to come out first and it was frozen!!! Now this was inside the MH garage with good insulation but no heat. Looks like do damage,cracks after it thawed by the wood furnace. Well,,,thinking of you,,,GL,,,,,PL
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g.winger wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 18:44

Larry,,,hope you're doing well. Was wondering how bad the damage was??? Thought of you the other day when I was removing the HVAC box. Of course the Wiper resevour has to come out first and it was frozen!!! Now this was inside the MH garage with good insulation but no heat. Looks like do damage,cracks after it thawed by the wood furnace. Well,,,thinking of you,,,GL,,,,,PL

Thanks Paul for your thoughts.
Broke my water heater wide open, cracked water pump (house), and hot and cold elbows at the shower. Took 4 days to fix. Thanks to good friends and just plain good people like Steve and Nancy F, the process was easier than trying to do it in some RV park in Podunkville.


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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115762 is a reply to message #115733] Sat, 19 February 2011 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chuck did you get that new engine up and running?
Roy


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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115778 is a reply to message #115745] Sun, 20 February 2011 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I have 70mm in front

Chuck Garton

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
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> Chuck Garton wrote on Sat, 19 February 2011 17:04
>> I'm using a Power Master with rear discs (80mm mid and 50mm rear with
>> parking brake lever).
>>
>> To get enough volume, I had to reverse the brake lines at the master cylinder.
>>
>> My local Carquest had the fittings in stock for reversing the lines.
>>
>> I'm using yellow stuff pads; at first, the braking was quick, but as
>> they age (18 months), they need to heat before stopping. I'm planning
>> to go back to carbon metallics.
>>
>> Chuck Garton
>> 77 Kingsley 455
>> Ridgecrest, CA
>
> Thanks Chuck,
> Do you have the 80's on the front also?
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Re: [GMCnet] Powermaster MC [message #115779 is a reply to message #115762] Sun, 20 February 2011 02:07 Go to previous message
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Yes!

I have about 450 miles on it. Sounds and feels good.

We are going to a Pacific cruisers rally next weekend.

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