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Well, as with all good projects, it gets more and more involved. After the counter top redo (the top is going to the shop today for two weeks), I am now looking for a flip couch to install. I have two 75" bench seats opposite each other (slight offset). Both have loose cushions and are not great to sit on since the backs are too low and the window blinds get in the way of reclining. They sit on "storage boxes" containing the water tank, the heater and the inverter. I had toyed with installing a dinette, but that would mean BIG changes. I am open to change for the sake of comfort and think a flip-couch would be it, since it is mounted on top of storage.
Thanks for your help.


Nick R. NorCal 76-23'Transmode-Norris Rear Bath and 75-26' Avion
Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115106 is a reply to message #115095] Tue, 15 February 2011 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Nick,

I have one for sale in Houston, TX here's a link to photos:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36496

Price = make me an offer!

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Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Subject: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch

Well, as with all good projects, it gets more and more involved. After the
counter top redo (the top is going to the shop today for two weeks), I am
now looking for a flip couch to install. I have two 75" bench seats opposite
each other (slight offset). Both have loose cushions and are not great to
sit on since the backs are too low and the window blinds get in the way of
reclining. They sit on "storage boxes" containing the water tank, the heater
and the inverter. I had toyed with installing a dinette, but that would mean
BIG changes. I am open to change for the sake of comfort and think a
flip-couch would be it, since it is mounted on top of storage.
Thanks for your help.
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76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath

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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115111 is a reply to message #115106] Tue, 15 February 2011 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings, Rob.
Not meaning to step on Nick's request, but is that sofa designed to sit on top of the boxes as in my Royale. I'd like to find something that would just span the boxes where the dinette now sits. Ken H.?


Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115116 is a reply to message #115111] Tue, 15 February 2011 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day Stretch,

If you look at this picture:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36494

You will see the couch is in two sections, the upper section with the
padding and flip mechanism and the lower section with the legs.

There are horizontal bars under the seating section where I slid my tool box
and various bits and pieces for storage. I had two plastic file cabinets
under there that just cleared those bars where I'd put small stuff. I think
the couch could be mounted on top of the LPG cabinet as long as the
mechanism on the sides were clear.

I will be attending the Patterson, LA GMCMI Convention and can look at a
Royale and determine if it is possible.

I will also be passing through Americus on my way to the Bean Station, TN
Rally. And can look at your Royale.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch

Greetings, Rob.
Not meaning to step on Nick's request, but is that sofa designed to sit on
top of the boxes as in my Royale. I'd like to find something that would just
span the boxes where the dinette now sits. Ken H.?
--
Stick (I used to be skinny) Miller
'78 Royale
Americus, Georgia

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=35133
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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115121 is a reply to message #115116] Tue, 15 February 2011 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Not to interrupt, but -- does the seat or back mechanism go below the level
of the rail. I think for a Royale it all needs to stay above the seat level.
A lot of others I've seen invade the space when unfolding.

Best to be sure.

--

Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
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http://web.me.com/bnsonger




Rob Mueller wrote:

> G'day Stretch,
>
> If you look at this picture:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36494
>
> You will see the couch is in two sections, the upper section with the
> padding and flip mechanism and the lower section with the legs.
>
> There are horizontal bars under the seating section where I slid my tool box
> and various bits and pieces for storage. I had two plastic file cabinets
> under there that just cleared those bars where I'd put small stuff. I think
> the couch could be mounted on top of the LPG cabinet as long as the
> mechanism on the sides were clear.
>
> I will be attending the Patterson, LA GMCMI Convention and can look at a
> Royale and determine if it is possible.
>
> I will also be passing through Americus on my way to the Bean Station, TN
> Rally. And can look at your Royale.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Stick Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:08 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch
>
> Greetings, Rob.
> Not meaning to step on Nick's request, but is that sofa designed to sit on
> top of the boxes as in my Royale. I'd like to find something that would just
> span the boxes where the dinette now sits. Ken H.?


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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115125 is a reply to message #115121] Tue, 15 February 2011 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Byron,

When the couch in question goes from a seat to a bed the part between the
side mechanisms did not invade the space below the horizontal bars below the
seating section.

The file cabinets that just fit under the horizontal bars extended from the
front of the couch to the side wall of Double Trouble.

I am reasonably confident that the couch can be mounted on top of anything
as long as the side mechanisms which extend below the horizontal bars are
free to operate and that the distance from the floor to the top of whatever
it is mounted on is the same as the height of the leg section.

I'm sure I have successfully confused everybody now!

Your "last words are correct!" Before I sell it to anybody I will make damn
sure I'm right! I wouldn't want to wind of paying to ship or bring it back
to Houston because it didn't work! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Byron Songer
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch

Not to interrupt, but -- does the seat or back mechanism go below the level
of the rail. I think for a Royale it all needs to stay above the seat level.
A lot of others I've seen invade the space when unfolding.

Best to be sure.

--
Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
http://www.gmceast.com
http://web.me.com/bnsonger




Rob Mueller wrote:

> G'day Stretch,
>
> If you look at this picture:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36494
>
> You will see the couch is in two sections, the upper section with the
> padding and flip mechanism and the lower section with the legs.
>
> There are horizontal bars under the seating section where I slid my tool
box
> and various bits and pieces for storage. I had two plastic file cabinets
> under there that just cleared those bars where I'd put small stuff. I
think
> the couch could be mounted on top of the LPG cabinet as long as the
> mechanism on the sides were clear.
>
> I will be attending the Patterson, LA GMCMI Convention and can look at a
> Royale and determine if it is possible.
>
> I will also be passing through Americus on my way to the Bean Station, TN
> Rally. And can look at your Royale.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Stick Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:08 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch
>
> Greetings, Rob.
> Not meaning to step on Nick's request, but is that sofa designed to sit on
> top of the boxes as in my Royale. I'd like to find something that would
just
> span the boxes where the dinette now sits. Ken H.?


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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115135 is a reply to message #115095] Tue, 15 February 2011 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick,
I have a never used Flexsteel couch/Bed that is for sale, if your interested contact me offline.

J.R. Wright
On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Nick Roenick wrote:

>
>
> Well, as with all good projects, it gets more and more involved. After the counter top redo (the top is going to the shop today for two weeks), I am now looking for a flip couch to install. I have two 75" bench seats opposite each other (slight offset). Both have loose cushions and are not great to sit on since the backs are too low and the window blinds get in the way of reclining. They sit on "storage boxes" containing the water tank, the heater and the inverter. I had toyed with installing a dinette, but that would mean BIG changes. I am open to change for the sake of comfort and think a flip-couch would be it, since it is mounted on top of storage.
> Thanks for your help.
> --
> Nick R.
> 76-23'Transmode-Norris
> Rear Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115142 is a reply to message #115111] Tue, 15 February 2011 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick,

Subject to all the usual disclaimers, I think a couch like Rob's would work
if the tank was turned along the wall and the platform beneath the dinette
extended to provide normal seat height. I suspect you'd want to extend that
elevated floor all the way across the coach, which might cause a problem
with the kitchen cabinet doors -- the platform may be higher than the bottom
of the doors. Barring that problem, the elevated floor would not be all bad
-- lift up doors would make the space beneath available for tool stowage.

Ken H.


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Stick Miller <stickmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Greetings, Rob.
> Not meaning to step on Nick's request, but is that sofa designed to sit on
> top of the boxes as in my Royale. I'd like to find something that would just
> span the boxes where the dinette now sits. Ken H.?
>
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Re: WANTED - Flip couch [message #115155 is a reply to message #115095] Tue, 15 February 2011 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Pickle-4k,

I have some pix of an easy to build sofa/bed I'm working on that opens to a full queen. I'm not smart enough to enter them onto the gallery in the order i want and with the captions I choose so email me if interested. glenngiere@gmail.com


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'

[Updated on: Tue, 15 February 2011 19:39]

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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115159 is a reply to message #115125] Tue, 15 February 2011 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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Rob,

Made perfect sense to me. But, I tend to think upside down anyway.

You've clarified that the "hinges/angle brackets/whatever" do go below the
horizontal bar and that there should be clearance there.

On a rear bath Royale where the couch cushions sit on a platform this
wouldn't work. However, around the dinette area it could be made to work if,
as Ken has pointed, the gas tank was moved and if the step (behind) the
passenger seat was altered. On my coach, that intermediate step is the same
height as the box over the LP tank.

Stick, in my opinion you may not need the raised platform. It depends on the
knee-to-foot length in question. For our Royale (since Martha and her girls
had short legs) I made footstools. The floor stays at it's level and the
footstools work well for those who are vertically challenged.

--

Byron Songer
1978 GMC Royale
Louisville, KY
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Rob Mueller wrote:

> I am reasonably confident that the couch can be mounted on top of anything
> as long as the side mechanisms which extend below the horizontal bars are
> free to operate and that the distance from the floor to the top of whatever
> it is mounted on is the same as the height of the leg section.
>
> I'm sure I have successfully confused everybody now!


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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115225 is a reply to message #115142] Wed, 16 February 2011 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 15 February 2011 19:35

Stick,

I suspect you'd want to extend that
elevated floor all the way across the coach.

Ken H.


I'm afraid extending the platform into the small walking space I already have would make it almost impossible to pass through that area. I could go all the way across if I could figure how to take 2-3 inches off my 6'5" frame.

Of course, that would solve the problem with the too-short bed also!


Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115227 is a reply to message #115225] Wed, 16 February 2011 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Which will work better, you stooping to get to the cockpit, or Elise looking
like Edith Ann sitting on the sofa? :-)

Ken H.


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Stick Miller <stickmiller@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 15 February 2011 19:35
> > Stick,
> >
> > I suspect you'd want to extend that
> > elevated floor all the way across the coach.
> >
> > Ken H.
>
>
> I'm afraid extending the platform into the small walking space I already
> have would make it almost impossible to pass through that area. I could go
> all the way across if I could figure how to take 2-3 inches off my 6'5"
> frame.
>
> Of course, that would solve the problem with the too-short bed also!
> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115242 is a reply to message #115227] Wed, 16 February 2011 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You have a point there. As I said, "bigger fish to fry."

Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115980 is a reply to message #115242] Mon, 21 February 2011 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick
I wonder if a layout like this '78 Royale would work better for you. Allow you to hang over into the door space instead of hacking into the closet?

http://picasaweb.google.com/116812485372521548644/ROYALE#5522386608247455682

http://tennessee.freervshopper.com/rvs-parts/ready-for-camping-season-1976-gmc-royale.html


Don Adams Dallas, TX
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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115981 is a reply to message #115980] Mon, 21 February 2011 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oops, sorry I now see he has already considered that layout.


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Re: [GMCnet] WANTED - Flip couch [message #115999 is a reply to message #115980] Mon, 21 February 2011 16:46 Go to previous message
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Don,

Stick already has a Royale with twin rear beds.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
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Stick
I wonder if a layout like this '78 Royale would work better for you. Allow
you to hang over into the door space instead of hacking into the closet?

http://picasaweb.google.com/116812485372521548644/ROYALE#5522386608247455682

http://tennessee.freervshopper.com/rvs-parts/ready-for-camping-season-1976-g
mc-royale.html
--
Don
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78 Suzuki 400

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