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GMCNUSA is currently offline  GMCNUSA   United States
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I just saw on Dan's blog the engine in coach is making bad noise and he is waiting on wrecker to tow to Tucson. He has contacted Steve Ferguson.

Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI, Just LOVE It!
Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #114988 is a reply to message #114984] Mon, 14 February 2011 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Berry is currently offline  Gary Berry   United States
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Well this sucks. I know Steve has everything he will need from a bolt
to a complete engine.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Larry and Cheryl Dilk <lwd222@msn.com> wrote:
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> I just saw on Dan's blog the engine in coach is making bad noise and he is waiting on wrecker to tow to Tucson. He has contacted Steve Ferguson.
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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #114992 is a reply to message #114984] Mon, 14 February 2011 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is just hard luck. I know they put a lot of miles on that rig each year, but they have rotten luck with engines so far. I hope it all works out and is something minor. You can't hope to meet a pair of nicer, friendlier people or, except for the engine history, a nicer, more updated coach.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #114998 is a reply to message #114992] Mon, 14 February 2011 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That engine is a year old.
Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115002 is a reply to message #114984] Mon, 14 February 2011 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I just called them (6:15 pm Tucson time) and spoke to Teri; they're a bit
disappointed but are in good spirits as they are both fine and at the end of
the day its only the engine.

Teri did note that the repair shop was not a very romantic place to spend
Valentine's Day! ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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I just saw on Dan's blog the engine in coach is making bad noise and he is
waiting on wrecker to tow to Tucson. He has contacted Steve Ferguson.
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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115003 is a reply to message #114998] Mon, 14 February 2011 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea, we are here at John's place in Tucson. Been a long day but we made it. Had good luck this time with insurance company. Not like last time. Second call was to Steve and he sent me to this fella here in Tucson. I believe he will be a good guy to work with. Wrecker was another flatbed who just towed Larry Warren's 75 Palm Beach yesterday so he knew he needed the big truck. Now, I need to see if the bank still remembers who I am. Laughing
Dan


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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115004 is a reply to message #115003] Mon, 14 February 2011 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan -- my wife and I spent our first anniversary a few years ago in Jim Bounds Coop parking lot on our first trouble-filled trip in the GMC. Figured our marriage wasn't going to last very long after that escapade! I ended up taking Crystal out for a few nice dinners, a bit of groveling, and a promise to make the GMC work better (still working on that one), and we are still happily married coming up on our fourth anniversary. I get to tell that story a lot, and Crystal gets to use it like a bludgeon on occasion. You'll probably remember this Valentine's Day for a good long time. If not, ask Teri to remind you every now and then... she'll be happy too!

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115007 is a reply to message #115003] Mon, 14 February 2011 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK Dan, You have a place to stay while you're in Tucson (probably several). But, I know for you guys, "home is where the GMC is". We'll talk again tomorrow. Happy Valentines Day! Very Happy

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member

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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115009 is a reply to message #115007] Mon, 14 February 2011 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks to all who are concerned. Just one of those things. We do have a good bed.
Dan


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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115019 is a reply to message #115009] Mon, 14 February 2011 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan
Sorry to hear of your misfortune Paula and I drove over to Quartsite yesterday looking for you but didn't see your coach so we figured you had left for your trip east.
Roy


Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115021 is a reply to message #114984] Mon, 14 February 2011 21:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Real bummer! Hope all goes well. hopefully third time will be the charm with this engine rebuild...

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115043 is a reply to message #115007] Tue, 15 February 2011 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We supplied the engine to MGM GMC to install in Dan's coach.
From the beginning,the oil samples did not meet the average contaminants.
There are some things that cause a engine to start generating metal particles.
One is not being able to flush the oil cooler , pulling a toad too
soon, not mixing the oil additives with the oil before pouring it in
before priming the oil system.
Sometimes the crank grinder does not do a very good job in the thrust
bearing area.
No way to tell for sure when the engine starts knocking and wiping out
the evidence.
Only consolation is a warranty on the engine. There is a chance that I
can get the shop to help out with the labor.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> OK Dan, You have a place to stay while you're in Tucson (probably several).  But, I know, "home is where the GMC is".  We'll talk again tomorrow.  Happy Valentines Day! :d
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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115045 is a reply to message #114984] Tue, 15 February 2011 02:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's the kinda thing that takes the wind out of your sails. Then it's time to remember Who really owns the sails and Who provides the wind! Life is and will remain good!

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ

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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115073 is a reply to message #115045] Tue, 15 February 2011 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh yea, you are correct Randy. Life is good. Teri and I have the best friends anyone could ever have. There is absolutly no doubt about that. I have no idea what happened to cause our problem but it really does not matter. We will be on the road again before long. The support we get from friends keeps us as positive as two folks can be. It is a bit disheartening and I had a real sick feeling deep down in my stomach when I realized just what the noise was becoming. But dang, twice in the same spot. That would not happen in another lifetime. Wierd ain't it. Oh well, next year when we pass by that truckstop I will just grin and try not to look over that way. I am trying not to worry about the money, yet. When we arrived here the smile on John's face said that I am at the right place. I really appreciate Steve F. telling us where to have the thing towed. I have confidence in the shop owner.
We have received lots of supporting emails. There have even been offers to help us with financial support. What other group of motorhome owners would be willing to do something like that? I will keep you on top of what I learn. I know also the support that Jim K. gives the community. He won't let me worry about this alone.
Thank you to everyone.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115074 is a reply to message #115004] Tue, 15 February 2011 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I spent New Year's Day on Jim Bounds parking lot, 2010 with a fuel leak, is
there a trend here???
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>
>
> Dan -- my wife and I spent our first anniversary a few years ago in Jim
> Bounds Coop parking lot on our first trouble-filled trip in the GMC.
> Figured our marriage wasn't going to last very long after that escapade! I
> ended up taking Crystal out for a few nice dinners, a bit of groveling,
> and a promise to make the GMC work better (still working on that one), and
> we are still happily married coming up on our fourth anniversary. I get to
> tell that story a lot, and Crystal gets to use it like a bludgeon on
> occasion. You'll probably remember this Valentine's Day for a good long
> time. If not, ask Teri to remind you every now and then... she'll be happy
> too!
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115080 is a reply to message #114984] Tue, 15 February 2011 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I guess another bright side is that when retired (as I soon may be or am trying to be) you don't absolutely HAVE to be anywhere. And you're in good company.
Dan, just curious what oil and oil filter you were running and what additives if any. Maybe its just a sloppy big end rod bearing causing the piston to rap the head shelf. (BTDT) Mine was quite at idle and then noisy above 1500RPM. "Maybe" that can be done from below w/o pulling the engine if the crank is OK. Good luck and keep us posted as I'm sure you will.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115081 is a reply to message #115080] Tue, 15 February 2011 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I will keep you posted. Jim has been on the phone with me giving me lots of support. Teri and I are really blessed.
Dan


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Re: GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115086 is a reply to message #115081] Tue, 15 February 2011 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim made a good point if that oil cooler isn't cleaned 99% it is very likely the replacement engine will not last very long. Too many shops seem to think a little brake cleaner and a few blasts of air will remove the metal debree from the cooler. It took me a week of running gas several hours a day with the aluminum radiator out of the coach and positioned every witch way and back flushing with blasts of air between before it stopped showing small metal particals. Even after all that I replaced the engine oil and filters 3 times in 1800 miles and cut the filter open to have a look see. I also had Blackstone make sure all was normal. If I were doing an engine change on the road I would disconnect the radiator cooler and install a large after market cooler to be safe.
Roy


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115088 is a reply to message #115086] Tue, 15 February 2011 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Roy, you make a good point. For the price of an aftermarket cooler and some
lines it does make sense/$cents. I don;t know how you could get all the crap
out of the radiator cooler without taking it out of the coach. Even then I
would still drop a magnet down into the filter or use one of those magnetic
filter wrap deals as well.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


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>
>
> Jim made a good point if that oil cooler isn't cleaned 99% it is very
> likely the replacement engine will not last very long. Too many shops seem
> to think a little brake cleaner and a few blasts of air will remove the
> metal debree from the cooler. It took me a week of running gas several
> hours a day with the aluminum radiator out of the coach and positioned
> every witch way and back flushing with blasts of air between before it
> stopped showing small metal particals. Even after all that I rplaced the
> engine oil and filters 3 times in 1800 miles and cut the filter open to
> have a look see. I also had Blackstone make sure all was normal. If I were
> doing an engine change on the road I would disconnect the radiator cooler
> and install a large after market cooler to be safe.
> Roy
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC engine problems again for Dan and Teri [message #115089 is a reply to message #115088] Tue, 15 February 2011 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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In these cases of blown engines and cluttered up oil coolers, is there
a way of tapping into the outlet of the oil cooler and adding another
oil filter to catch this debris coming out of the cooler??
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