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| [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114468] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 16:01  |
Steven Ferguson
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Guys,
I just got a call from a GMCer who is rebuilding his lower control arms.
He said he followed my notes on the GMCWS tech page. Under rebuilding your
front suspension, pg 2, it says to tighten the 3/4 top nut on the ball
joints to 120 ft lbs of torque. That should read 20 ft lbs of
torque........MY BAD! I don't know how the "1" got in there and stayed in
there so long.
Billy, I can't change it from here so I'm counting on you to do it.
Again, I am very sorry to be putting out bum info like that. I'm going to
punish my left hand now.
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Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114483 is a reply to message #114468] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 18:21  |
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mike miller
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 14:01 |
... That should read 20 ft lbs of torque........MY BAD!
I don't know how the "1" got in there and stayed in there so long.
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As we where saying in a different thread, it is up to the user to double check the information regardless of source. (But especially info from the Internet.) The poster could have no intention of mis-leading (an can even be an expert) but could make a mistake... like a typo.
If you notice a typo or other error in anything the GMC people put out... ask about it. GMC'ers will not be offended.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114487 is a reply to message #114484] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 18:46 |
Gary Worobec
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Ouch, low blow!!
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information
> Just goes to show
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> You can't trust a SOB
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> On Feb 7, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 14:01
>>> ... That should read 20 ft lbs of torque........MY BAD!
>>> I don't know how the "1" got in there and stayed in there so long.
>>> ...
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>> As we where saying in a different thread, it is up to the user to double
>> check the information regardless of source. (But especially info from
>> the Internet.) The poster could have no intention of mis-leading (an can
>> even be an expert) but could make a mistake... like a typo.
>>
>> If you notice a typo or other error in anything the GMC people put out...
>> ask about it. GMC'ers will not be offended.
>> --
>> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
>> '73 26' exPainted D. -- `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- `77 23' Birchaven
>> Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114489 is a reply to message #114487] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 18:48 |
Mr ERFisher
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not low blow
just a good friend ;>)
gene
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Gary Worobec <gtw5@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ouch, low blow!!
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> Thanks
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> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information
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> > Just goes to show
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> > You can't trust a SOB
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> > ;)
> > Gene
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> > Sent from McDonalds
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> > On Feb 7, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 14:01
> >>> ... That should read 20 ft lbs of torque........MY BAD!
> >>> I don't know how the "1" got in there and stayed in there so long.
> >>> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> As we where saying in a different thread, it is up to the user to double
> >> check the information regardless of source. (But especially info from
> >> the Internet.) The poster could have no intention of mis-leading (an
> can
> >> even be an expert) but could make a mistake... like a typo.
> >>
> >> If you notice a typo or other error in anything the GMC people put
> out...
> >> ask about it. GMC'ers will not be offended.
> >> --
> >> Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
> >> '73 26' exPainted D. -- `78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- `77 23' Birchaven
> >> Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114492 is a reply to message #114490] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 18:53 |
Mr ERFisher
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I had forgotten this, thanks Gary
also Joe pointed out this weekend, at the NORCAL , that the manuals show two
different heights for the front of the GMC frame height.
I will go look for all of these, if someone has the links let me know
gene
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Gary Bovee <gcbgold@digitalpath.net> wrote:
> Steve, If you happened to be looking at the X-7725 supplement manual for
> ball joint torques specs you would find that they got the top and bottom
> specs reversed. Replacing a brand new ball joint from over torquing isn't
> cheap. Ask me how I know.
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> Moral of the story, don't always believe what you read! Even the GMC
> manuals can have incorrect info in rare instances.
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> Gary Bovee
> Red Bluff, CA
> 78 Royale by Coachman
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114496 is a reply to message #114474] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 19:33 |
Steven Ferguson
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No backing down from what I said about the Reaction Arm Steve. My old
fingers may miss a key on the board once in a while, or a string on the
guitar, but that Reaction Arm is a whole different ballgame.
If I still had a GMC, I would have the Reaction Arm setup.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:
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> WD0AFQ wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 16:22
> > Dang it. And, you are the reason I had Jim install the reaction arm. I
> hope you don't change your mind on that. I put all faith in your words. You
> said when you drove the coach with reaction arm it was the best mod for a
> GMC you had ever witnessed.
> > We will see very soon now. Just checked my GMC tracker and it has been
> backed out of the frontend shop. We are in Vacaville today.
> > Dan,
> > hoping anyone that twisted a balljoint off sends Steve the bill :lol:
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> Yep - the price paid for the info will be refunded in full. <grin>
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> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114499 is a reply to message #114497] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 20:28 |
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Vacaville. Did you get a ticket at Hilltop? I did about 15 years ago. I was
set up. At least, that's my story.
Are there still nuts in Vacaville?
Ever been to Sacramento? Since you're halfway there you should go on. Great
train museum there. Phat City is a great restaurant, too.
Just stay away from Sausalito and The Spinnaker.
Byron
Dan Gregg wrote:
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> Ok Steve, I am with you. Will know about Wednesday if you are telling the
> truth. They have it at frontend allignment shop now. We are fixing to head
> back there from Vacaville shortly.
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114509 is a reply to message #114496] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 20:55 |
Larry
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 19:33 |
No backing down from what I said about the Reaction Arm Steve. My old
fingers may miss a key on the board once in a while, or a string on the
guitar, but that Reaction Arm is a whole different ballgame.
If I still had a GMC, I would have the Reaction Arm setup.
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Something interesting happened to us about a month ago traveling through Oklahoma City. We were going through at rush hour. Suddenly all traffic...going at 65mph...just suddenly stopped. My first reaction was that I wasn't going to make it. I have drum brakes and stock airbag system. Hit the brakes hard, then the Brake Buddy in the towd came in. Hauled me down with room to spare and no sliding of the rear bogie tires. It acted as I thought it might. The towd pulling hard on the rear of the coach kept the rear down, putting more weight on it so that the rear bogie tires didn't skid and actually did the braking that it was suppose to. Gave me six tires and four on the towd. I know for sure now that the coach will stop better towing than without.
I still want the reaction arm and disc brakes.
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114510 is a reply to message #114496] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 20:56 |
Larry
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 19:33 |
No backing down from what I said about the Reaction Arm Steve. My old
fingers may miss a key on the board once in a while, or a string on the
guitar, but that Reaction Arm is a whole different ballgame.
If I still had a GMC, I would have the Reaction Arm setup.
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Something interesting happened to us about a month ago traveling through Oklahoma City. We were going through at rush hour. Suddenly all traffic...going at 65mph...just suddenly stopped. My first reaction was that I wasn't going to make it. I have drum brakes and stock airbag system. Hit the brakes hard, then the Brake Buddy in the towd came in. Hauled me down with room to spare and no sliding of the rear bogie tires. It acted as I thought it might. The towd pulling hard on the rear of the coach kept the rear down, putting more weight on it so that the rear bogie tires didn't skid and actually did the braking that it was suppose to. Gave me six tires and four on the towd. I know for sure now that the coach will stop better towing than without.
I still want the reaction arm and disc brakes.
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114511 is a reply to message #114496] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 20:58 |
Larry
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 07 February 2011 19:33 |
No backing down from what I said about the Reaction Arm Steve. My old
fingers may miss a key on the board once in a while, or a string on the
guitar, but that Reaction Arm is a whole different ballgame.
If I still had a GMC, I would have the Reaction Arm setup.
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Something interesting happened to us about a month ago traveling through Oklahoma City. We were going through at rush hour. Suddenly all traffic...going at 65mph...just suddenly stopped. My first reaction was that I wasn't going to make it. I have drum brakes and stock airbag system. Hit the brakes hard, then the Brake Buddy in the towd came in. Hauled me down with room to spare and no sliding of the rear bogie tires. It acted as I thought it might. The towd pulling hard on the rear of the coach kept the rear down, putting more weight on it so that the rear bogie tires didn't skid and actually did the braking that it was suppose to. Gave me six tires and four on the towd. I know for sure now that the coach will stop better towing than without.
I still want the reaction arm and disc brakes.
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wrong information [message #114512 is a reply to message #114468] |
Mon, 07 February 2011 20:56 |
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Good thing someone caught it. I am sure that would strip the threads from the top of the ball joint.
Emery Stora
On Feb 7, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Steven Ferguson wrote:
> Guys,
> I just got a call from a GMCer who is rebuilding his lower control arms.
> He said he followed my notes on the GMCWS tech page. Under rebuilding your
> front suspension, pg 2, it says to tighten the 3/4 top nut on the ball
> joints to 120 ft lbs of torque. That should read 20 ft lbs of
> torque........MY BAD! I don't know how the "1" got in there and stayed in
> there so long.
> Billy, I can't change it from here so I'm counting on you to do it.
> Again, I am very sorry to be putting out bum info like that. I'm going to
> punish my left hand now.
>
> --
> Steve Ferguson
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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