| yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113023] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 01:24  |
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I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113049 is a reply to message #113023] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 10:07  |
midlf
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| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Tue, 25 January 2011 01:24 |
I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
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Yeah - don't do it. A few people get killed each year running a generator indoors with what they thought was "adequate ventilation". Do you have a propane tank? If not it might work in that space. Otherwise I would make a platform on the rear bumper for the gen.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113053 is a reply to message #113049] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 10:25 |
mlincoln
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Do not put an internal combustion engine in your living space. Buy a pup tent or awning for the generator, or put it under a plastic covered picnic table to protect from rain, and buy a long extension cord. I've seen people come in dead and alive, "cherry red" with CO poisoning, and a significant number of them were tempting fate in some way. Adding a CO alarm is a nice idea, but only as a backup to an approved heating or electrical system (such as a properly maintained and operating furnace). The actual number of deaths from non-fire related CO poisoning is relatively large, ca 500+/year. See the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report issue on CO poisoning at http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5650a1.htm
Michael J. Lincoln MD, FACMI
Internal and Pulmonary medicine
1978 Center Kitchen Royale
On Jan 25, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Steve Southworth wrote:
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> Duce Apocalypse wrote on Tue, 25 January 2011 01:24
>> I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
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> Yeah - don't do it. A few people get killed each year running a generator indoors with what they thought was "adequate ventilation". Do you have a propane tank? If not it might work in that space. Otherwise I would make a platform on the rear bumper for the gen.
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> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113059 is a reply to message #113049] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 11:01 |
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AND, repeat, AND, only if you add one of those
vertical exhaust stacks that Camping World sells!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: midlf@centurytel.net
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:07:29 -0600
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> Duce Apocalypse wrote on Tue, 25 January 2011 01:24
> > I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
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> Yeah - don't do it. A few people get killed each year running a generator indoors with what they thought was "adequate ventilation". Do you have a propane tank? If not it might work in that space. Otherwise I would make a platform on the rear bumper for the gen.
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> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113060 is a reply to message #113023] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 11:17 |
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I hate it when my phone double posts a topic. I understand the risks with CO which is why I asked this question in the first place. The style of Gen is a hand portable inverter Gen (Yamaha EF2000iS) it appears it would be possible with a sealed exhaust to vent any CO well away from the coach like the Furnace does thus allowing safe indoor operation. Due to the compact size of this unit, placing it in the engine compartment may even be possible which would solve any ventalation issues. This is just a hypothetical on how safe indoor operation might be accomplished...
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113079 is a reply to message #113023] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 12:46 |
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The reason I wanted the EF2000iS was a great comprimise between power and portability. I plan to take this thing anywhere I Need AC power, not just with the coach. The second reason was price! Kinda hard to beat $899 shipped to my door. Was only 120 more than the EF1000iS but several hundred less than the EF3000. Also its hard to beat the hand portability of 44 lbs. Hell I would curl 45# dumbells when working out so that's nothing! To my knowledge the unit also meets strict CARB refs for emissions, which sounds like it might have a small cat on it, if so CO emissions must be really low. Considering other CO producing items like furnace and stove can be used safely I don't see why this small APU could not be adapted in a like fashion...
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113097 is a reply to message #113023] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 15:10 |
George Beckman
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| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Mon, 24 January 2011 23:24 |
I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
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Four died about a month ago, 30 miles from here. Generator in the basement. CO is odorless and a poison. It combines with the red blood cells better than oxygen, so even if you are in oxygen rich air, you die.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: yamaha inverter generator: how to run inside? [message #113114 is a reply to message #113097] |
Tue, 25 January 2011 20:13 |
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Thats why, CO is slightly lighter than air, placing it under a living space without a ducted and sealed exhaust is asking for it...
| George Beckman wrote on Tue, 25 January 2011 15:10 |
| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Mon, 24 January 2011 23:24 |
I just bought one of these super quiet gens, will run 12 hrs on a gallon of gas. I wanna be able to run it inside. This would especially be useful if it were raining outside. It seems all I would need to do is vent the exhaust to the outside? Any ideas?
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Four died about a month ago, 30 miles from here. Generator in the basement. CO is odorless and a poison. It combines with the red blood cells better than oxygen, so even if you are in oxygen rich air, you die.
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73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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