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| Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112595] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 13:31  |
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Since I know this is a very popular item -- will pass it on. (I don't sell them)
Price for the Wave 8 catalytic heaters this year will be about $180. Compared to the best Ebay price of $350 - they will go fast.
They also have the Wave 6 heaters but did not know the price for them yet.
John Ruff
Chandler, AZ
1975 Eleganza
WA3RIG
If I use ZDDP in a new car - will the tappets go flat?
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| Re: Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112604 is a reply to message #112595] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 14:20  |
GeorgeRud
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Though I'm not a Quartzsite to take advantage of the deals, I would like some feedback from those that are using these heaters.
My coach has the original furnace, though I have never used it (I don't trust a 35 year old gas fired appliance that produces carbon monixide). I am trying to decide whether it makes more sense to replace the original furnace, or simply use on of these Wave heaters if heat is needed. I plan to use the coach in the nice weather anyway, so cold weather camping should not be a major concern.
Any feedback is appreciated. As Chicago has below zero wind chills today, Arizona sounds very nice to me right now!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112605 is a reply to message #112604] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 14:22 |
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They are amazing! And compared to our RV furnaces they only sip propane and do not guzzle it!
| GeorgeRud wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 13:20 |
Though I'm not a Quartzsite to take advantage of the deals, I would like some feedback from those that are using these heaters.
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John Ruff
Chandler, AZ
1975 Eleganza
WA3RIG
If I use ZDDP in a new car - will the tappets go flat?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112610 is a reply to message #112607] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 15:15 |
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WD0AFQ
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I find that what Gary says about them not to be the case with our Wave 6. We got it here 2 years back. John found the deal and we grabbed one, 100 bux. We have a new furnace for emergencies. But, we rarely have an emergency. The Wave 6 heats our coach most all of the time, using much less propane than the furnace. What it does is project the heat out and onto whatever is around it. So, if it is near the couch, the couch warms up. I like that. We do not have a blower or one with a thermostat because that will use voltage. You can buy catalytic heaters with both if you want, just not the Wave, that I am aware of. I would not want a coach without a working furnace but I know folks that have nothing more than a Wave 8 catalytic heater for the GMC. Should you want to "blow" the heat, I assume you could use your fan to blow across in front of it.
Dan,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112611 is a reply to message #112607] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 15:22 |
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They also can potentially emit LOTS of CO, which is why they
were (maybe still are) not
legal for use in enclosed spaces.
On 1/21/2011 12:43 PM, Gary Worobec wrote:
> The problem with catalytic heaters is that they don't blow any air, at least
> the ones I have used in a variety of trailers and toyboxes. You pretty much
> got to be standing right next to them to feel any heat. They also create
> lots of water vapor inside the coach unlike a forced air unit. While they
> sip propane and don't use any battery I just found them rather useless.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112613 is a reply to message #112611] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 15:44 |
Gary Worobec
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Terry, I think you are correct. We never used ours without some type of open
window or vent. Again, if you use them without a vent we found that
everything felt damp when we shut it off.
Thanks
Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Taylor" <n6mon@pacbell.net>
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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters
> They also can potentially emit LOTS of CO, whic, I thinkh is why they
> were (maybe still are) not
> legal for use in enclosed spaces.
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> On 1/21/2011 12:43 PM, Gary Worobec wrote:
>> The problem with catalytic heaters is that they don't blow any air, at
>> least
>> the ones I have used in a variety of trailers and toyboxes. You pretty
>> much
>> got to be standing right next to them to feel any heat. They also create
>> lots of water vapor inside the coach unlike a forced air unit. While they
>> sip propane and don't use any battery I just found them rather useless.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112617 is a reply to message #112613] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 16:41 |
John Hunt
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Newbie question for Wave6/8 owners - do they stand alone with a propane connection or did you permanently install? If so, could you clue me in on where you install them? I'm thinking this might be a better route to go when I remove my Sol Aire danger furnace. In the past, I've rarely used the furnace and when I do need it, it's usually during dry camping, so this device might be a better compromise all around for my purposes.
John
1976 Eleganza II,
1969 Lotus Elan Plus 2,
1978 Merlyn Formula Ford,
1981 Lola Sports 2000
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112630 is a reply to message #112607] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 20:33 |
Larry C
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It is true of the catalytic and infrared heaters, they heat watever the heat waves contact only. The moisture is from the propane gas since it is not exhausted.
A Propane room heater, like the blu flame, heats the air. Any of these heaters are at least 25% more efficent than the furnace, true of your home unit as well.
You just need to remember to keep a window cracked for air circulation so you dont run out of oxygen.
Some folks like the infrared or cat heaters, I prefer the blue flame.....
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| Re: Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112637 is a reply to message #112595] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 22:01 |
Chr$
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LOL
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| Re: Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112640 is a reply to message #112637] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 22:41 |
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Good one John. those wheels from Chris' coach went cheap.
Rob, I am right here.
In the morning, about 9 am, I will be in the tent. It opens at 8 but they won't need me that early, I am told. Just hope I can get up and be there by 9am. That is early for me.
Chris, I will see if they have any of the Wave 3 heaters. The guy selling them is just east of us in the most southern lane, of the 3 inside the tent. Sometimes those heaters go within a few hours but the 3 is their least seller, too small for most folks. I doubt that most GMCs will have a problem with the Wave heaters sucking up all the o2, but if you are worried, crack a vent, and don't fall asleep with it on. I have never seen any water from our's but we don't run it over 2-3 hours at a time.
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112651 is a reply to message #112617] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 05:10 |
Steven Ferguson
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John,
I tapped off the furnace propane line and mounted a quick disconnect in our
coach. There are dedicated quick disconnects for propane. Do not use the
ones for air operated equipment. These work quite well and cannot be
accidently disconnected. Once connected, a small lever opens a ball valve
inside the fitting to allow gas flow to the applilance, and that same lever
locks the fitting in place. I also mounted a quick disconnect under the
coach and use that for the BBQ. Propane pressure after the regulator is
about 11 column inches of water, or 1.5 psi. Air hose fittings will not
operate properly at pressures this low. Do not use them.
We have used a Wave heater for a couple of years. I set it at a low temp
and it eventually saturates the coach with heat providing about as even a
temp throughout the coach as the furnace does. It does this without the
racket and constant cycling. If the heaters sold in the big tent this year
are like the ones in the past, they have O2 sensors built into them that
shuts them off if the oxygen levels drop to whatever the oxygen level is at
5,200 ft. altitude.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM, John Hunt <johnhuntltd@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Newbie question for Wave6/8 owners - do they stand alone with a propane
> connection or did you permanently install? If so, could you clue me in on
> where you install them? I'm thinking this might be a better route to go
> when I remove my Sol Aire danger furnace. In the past, I've rarely used
> the furnace and when I do need it, it's usually during dry camping, so this
> device might be a better compromise all around for my purposes.
>
> John
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> 1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112652 is a reply to message #112640] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 05:11 |
Steven Ferguson
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Good luck, I've never seen them last more than one hour. Vendors get into
the big tent early and that (John Ruff specifically) has been our secret
weapon in the past.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Good one John. those wheels from Chris' coach went cheap.
> Rob, I am right here.
> In the morning, about 9 am, I will be in the tent. It opens at 8 but they
> won't need me that early, I am told. Just hope I can get up and be there by
> 9am. That is early for me.
> Chris, I will see if they have any of the Wave 3 heaters. The guy selling
> them is just east of us in the most southern lane, of the 3 inside the tent.
> Sometimes those heaters go within a few hours but the 3 is their least
> seller, too small for most folks. I doubt that most GMCs will have a
> problem with the Wave heaters sucking up all the o2, but if you are worried,
> crack a vent, and don't fall asleep with it on. I have never seen any water
> from our's but we don't run it over 2-3 hours at a time.
> Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Quartzsite Wave Heaters [message #112655 is a reply to message #112653] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 08:12 |
Steven Ferguson
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I always knew you were on some kind of high Emery:>)
I think that is why they dumped them. The guy that has the booth sells
refurbed units, and also discontinued models. There is no way around that
O2 sensor and when I talked to one of the techs where they are made, he said
that is why they discontinued them. Don't know if it's true or not, just
what he said. I have two, one I sold to Gary Berry, one I use in the shop
(4,600 ft) and also bring with on cold trips when we have to dry camp.
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
> > If the heaters sold in the big tent this year
> > are like the ones in the past, they have O2 sensors built into them
> > that
> > shuts them off if the oxygen levels drop to whatever the oxygen
> > level is at
> > 5,200 ft. altitude.
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> >
> Well, that is something that people should be aware of. That means
> they will not work in many places such as in Northern Arizona, many
> parts of New Mexico, Colorado and other high places. In Santa Fe we
> are at 7200 feet.
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> Emery Stora
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