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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112585 is a reply to message #112583] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 11:50   |
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ouch! that sucks! thankfully they got it early, and althouh there is a lot of damage, its fixable...
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112586 is a reply to message #112583] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 11:51 |
JohnL455
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If no one got hurt that's the main thing. And it looks like it can be saved and restored.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112588 is a reply to message #112583] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 11:56 |
Sandra Price
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Thanks for sharing the pictures with us, Charles. Stacy took some really
good ones. I especially like the one of Dean with the Funky Chicken on his
head. The Farkel game looked intense and fun--I want to play that next
time.
I agree with you, Charles, Georgene and Bruce accepted the fire in an
exemplary manner. Don't know many who could continue on like they did, but
what a display of courage and faith.
Until we meet again,
Sandra
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Charles <gcw13@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> At our last Classics rally one of our coaches caught on fire.
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> Here are some pictures. Fire was thought to have started
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> because of some faulty wiring by a previous owner. I
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> understand it appeared there was a 110 wall plug in the
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> cabinet, wired with 12 volt wiring. I did not see the wiring.
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> http://picasaweb.google.com/GMCClassics/2011WinterRally#
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> Charles
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112596 is a reply to message #112583] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 13:32 |
Ray Erspamer
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Note says that it may have started by some faulty wiring by a PO, WOW, can I
relate to THAT ! One of my coach's PO's (or several) was a wiring maniac, I
think since we've bought it I've literally removed 2 miles of wires. HOT wires
leading to no where and dead ending with no termination or protection, crushed &
bare exposed wires between the coach and frame, 8 gazillion gizmo's and gadgets
that in my opinion just created a messy electrical system with no tangible
benefits. When I first bought the coach I tried forever to figure things out
and all I did was get more confused, so I came unglued one day and literally
ripped all of the non-OEM stuff out. Since then I've ripped out another ton of
wiring. I feel like I now have my arms around things and confidence I have a
good clean electrical system.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Charles <gcw13@sbcglobal.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 11:04:10 AM
Subject: [GMCnet] Coach fire
At our last Classics rally one of our coaches caught on fire.
Here are some pictures. Fire was thought to have started
because of some faulty wiring by a previous owner. I
understand it appeared there was a 110 wall plug in the
cabinet, wired with 12 volt wiring. I did not see the wiring.
http://picasaweb.google.com/GMCClassics/2011WinterRally#
Charles
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112602 is a reply to message #112583] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 14:14 |
GeorgeRud
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I'll also add that chemical extinguishers and aluminum don't get along well (though neither does fire and any combustable materials). It's wonderful that no one was injured and the coach should be able to be saved. Still, it is a shame that the coach burned. We obviously have to be careful with our modifications, and be sure that wiring is done very carefully, and have to be aware that the insulation around wires can wear through with time and movement.
Halon is great and doesn't leave residues to clean up, but I think that the extingishing features of the foam may make those the most valuable ones available. I have the automatic Halon extinguishers mounted in engine compartment, refrigerator compartment, and generator compartment, as well as one in the cabinet by the exit door. However, if I was installing them today, I'd probably go for the foam ones.
Both of the Jims can set you up with any that you need.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112635 is a reply to message #112592] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 21:32 |
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I carry a 10# dry extinguisher, would love Halon but thanks to stupid regs,they are expensive as heck. where can one get a foam extinguisher?
| pbrownsd wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 13:09 |
That reminds me. I will purchase a fire extinguisher today, or maybe 2...or 6.
Pete Brown
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112644 is a reply to message #112635] |
Fri, 21 January 2011 23:44 |
jayrabe
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Link to foam extinguishers. Don't know anything about the company, just saved the link when I was searching for them too. AFFF are more expensive than dry chem, but a little cheaper than Halon.
http://www.firedot.com/mall/AR_AFFF.htm
J
76 PB
Portland, OR
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:32:32 -0600
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> I carry a 10# dry extinguisher, would love Halon but thanks to stupid regs,they are expensive as heck. where can one get a foam extinguisher?
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> pbrownsd wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 13:09
> > That reminds me. I will purchase a fire extinguisher today, or maybe 2...or 6.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112647 is a reply to message #112635] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 00:00 |
Ken Burton
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| Duce Apocalypse wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 21:32 |
I carry a 10# dry extinguisher, would love Halon but thanks to stupid regs,they are expensive as heck. where can one get a foam extinguisher?
| pbrownsd wrote on Fri, 21 January 2011 13:09 |
That reminds me. I will purchase a fire extinguisher today, or maybe 2...or 6.
Pete Brown
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You really do NOT want Dry Powder. I did as much or more damage with the dry powder than I did with the actual fire. If you can not find AFFF then at least get Co2. Halon works well for very confine spaces line the Onan compartment. I personally doubt it's effectiveness for an engine fire. I still waiting for someone to say "my halon fire extinguisher saved me". I carry foam and Co2.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112648 is a reply to message #112583] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 00:22 |
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Terrible news. Recoverable but disappointing.
On the bright side it was so good to see the familiar smile on Billie's
face. I was hoping she'd be present and absorbing the support of friends.
Byron
Charles wrote:
> At our last Classics rally one of our coaches caught on fire.
>
> Here are some pictures. Fire was thought to have started
>
> because of some faulty wiring by a previous owner. I
>
> understand it appeared there was a 110 wall plug in the
>
> cabinet, wired with 12 volt wiring. I did not see the wiring.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/GMCClassics/2011WinterRally#
>
> Charles
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coach fire [message #112664 is a reply to message #112596] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 14:23 |
Larry C
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I am sorry to hear of the fire... I hope they plan to make repairs and keep on using the GMC.
I am in agreement with Ray E.
My freaking PO attached the wire duct covers with drywall screws right in the duct. I don't know how he did not hit any wires. The wires were laying right on the sharp edges of the screws.
And then theres the red wire that ran across the hall under the rug that he ran. And the Negative coach cable that was not tight on the frame so I had constant voltage problems till I found it...
I travel with the dogs and fire is a constant concern as they live in the coach on the trips...
You may already know about firefighting, IF not, it does not hurt to remind yourself of fire extinguisher use....
You really need to look up the operating requirements for the different types of extinguishers.
Some must be aimed at a fire to put it out. ( DryChem, Halon, CO2 ) Others are a heavy gas and will suffocate a fire if the area is built for that purpose. ( CO2, )
Halon is reported to eat copper like an acid and is not breathable.
Foam is meant to float on liquids such as flaming oil or gas and will suffocate the fire if you have enough foam.
DryChem is a fast fire extinguishment but is dirty.
If you have a hot fire and the metal is hot, be wary of flash back when the air gets back to the fire source. Foam has a cooling effect on contact.
THE HOTTEST FIRE YOU WILL EVER KNOW IS A PROPANE FIRE!
Propane fires are actually best delt with with a dry chem but be ready to valve out the source. In Fire fighting school, we attacked it with a dryChem from BEHIND the point it was escaping so the DryChem kind of envleoped the escaping gas and suffocated the fire.
In the case of a propane fire you have to make observation and a good decision.
Can you valve it out?
Are there any flamable items near it?
Is it leaking in an enclosed area?
( if you put the fire out, the gas will collect and a spark will ruin your day )
In an enclosed area, if you cannot valve out the main tank, if you put the fire out, cut all the power/pilot lights, get away, call the fire department. Don't spend any time in the area of the leak, get out. Ventilation may save your property but you do not have much time to ventilate.
If the tank cannot be valved out and you are in a closed area like a garage, if you get the fire out you need to get that leaking tank outside. If you can't remove the tank, like a GMC main propane tank, you need the fire department to help. In a commercial propane fire, they may leave the fire burn until they can stop the gas or it depletes itself.
Just some of the things I remember from Fire school.
Good to know, good to learn. Chance favors the prepared mind.
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