| [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111946] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 19:27  |
James Hupy
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I am working on a coach for a fellow gmcer and one of the air bags is
severely hot dogged with the outboard ends high and the middle low. It also
has grey plastic cones. It is a 73 Glacier 26 foot. I have seen comments
about this and I have a question. Is it better to have the bow shape down or
up? I already know what to do about the plastic cones. If the bag is
reversed, does the shape correct itself, or is the solution to replace it? I
don't want to spend his money unnecessarily, but the coach has to be road
worthy.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111947 is a reply to message #111946] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 19:43  |
Ken Burton
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| James Hupy wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 19:27 |
I am working on a coach for a fellow gmcer and one of the air bags is
severely hot dogged with the outboard ends high and the middle low. It also
has grey plastic cones. It is a 73 Glacier 26 foot. I have seen comments
about this and I have a question. Is it better to have the bow shape down or
up? I already know what to do about the plastic cones. If the bag is
reversed, does the shape correct itself, or is the solution to replace it? I
don't want to spend his money unnecessarily, but the coach has to be road
worthy.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
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Just turn the bag upside down. It will correct itself over the next few years. If you do not have aluminum cones available, send me a note. I have several sets that people gave me for the loaner program. I'll bead blast a set of them, paint them black, and mail them to you.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111951 is a reply to message #111946] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 20:15 |
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mike miller
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| James Hupy wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 17:27 |
I am working on a coach for a fellow gmcer and one of the air bags is
severely hot dogged with the outboard ends high and the middle low. It also
has grey plastic cones. It is a 73 Glacier 26 foot. I have seen comments
about this and I have a question. Is it better to have the bow shape down or
up? I already know what to do about the plastic cones. If the bag is
reversed, does the shape correct itself, or is the solution to replace it? ...
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I am not sure if there is a correlation between hot-dogging and bag failure... seems to make sense, but does anyone KNOW?
The normal direction for airbag hot-dogging is "bow up." It sounds like someone has already rotated them. I do not think that a badly hot-dogged bag will ever bow the other way so rotating them back will probably not help.
Rotating new or only slightly hot-dogged bags is a good idea. Putting the coach on blocks and letting the air out of the bags when the coach is in storage is always helpful for bag life.
Get rid of the plastic cones... but you knew that.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111965 is a reply to message #111951] |
Thu, 13 January 2011 23:29 |
midlf
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| mike miller wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 20:15 |
Get rid of the plastic cones... but you knew that.
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Nope - use them to store a spare air bag. Makes the bag take up a lot less space.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111971 is a reply to message #111947] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 00:11 |
jimk
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Hot dogging will be more dominant when the height is higher than called out.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> James Hupy wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 19:27
>> I am working on a coach for a fellow gmcer and one of the air bags is
>> severely hot dogged with the outboard ends high and the middle low. It also
>> has grey plastic cones. It is a 73 Glacier 26 foot. I have seen comments
>> about this and I have a question. Is it better to have the bow shape down or
>> up? I already know what to do about the plastic cones. If the bag is
>> reversed, does the shape correct itself, or is the solution to replace it? I
>> don't want to spend his money unnecessarily, but the coach has to be road
>> worthy.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC Royale 403
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> Just turn the bag upside down. It will correct itself over the next few years. If you do not have aluminum cones available, send me a note. I have several sets that people gave me for the loaner program. I'll bead blast a set of them, paint them black, and mail them to you.
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111975 is a reply to message #111971] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 00:56 |
James Hupy
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Thank you to all who responded. My brain already knew the correct answer. It
is QUADRA-BAG time. I just wanted all the imput so I could get enough Heart
to tell the owner that he has to pony up another bunch of $$$. Again the
GMCnet has provided a valuable service.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC Royale 403
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hot dogging will be more dominant when the height is higher than called
> out.
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> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > James Hupy wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 19:27
> >> I am working on a coach for a fellow gmcer and one of the air bags is
> >> severely hot dogged with the outboard ends high and the middle low. It
> also
> >> has grey plastic cones. It is a 73 Glacier 26 foot. I have seen comments
> >> about this and I have a question. Is it better to have the bow shape
> down or
> >> up? I already know what to do about the plastic cones. If the bag is
> >> reversed, does the shape correct itself, or is the solution to replace
> it? I
> >> don't want to spend his money unnecessarily, but the coach has to be
> road
> >> worthy.
> >> Jim Hupy
> >> Salem, Or
> >> 78 GMC Royale 403
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> GMCnet mailing list
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> >> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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> > Just turn the bag upside down. It will correct itself over the next few
> years. If you do not have aluminum cones available, send me a note. I have
> several sets that people gave me for the loaner program. I'll bead blast a
> set of them, paint them black, and mail them to you.
> > --
> > Ken Burton - N9KB
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Hebron, Indiana
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> --
> Jim Kanomata
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> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Hot dog air bags & plastic cones. [message #111982 is a reply to message #111946] |
Fri, 14 January 2011 06:58 |
Gary Casey
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It's a trivial point to be sure, but I don't see how the stored air bag takes up
less space with the cones than without. The bag can be inverted with or without
the cones. Still, I'll probably take my spare bag along with at least one
plastic cone just in case one gets damaged. Granted, you might be able to tie
the cones tighter than without if you go to that trouble. Is that what you
meant?
Gary Casey
mike miller wrote on Thu, 13 January 2011 20:15
> Get rid of the plastic cones... but you knew that.
Nope - use them to store a spare air bag. Makes the bag take up a lot less
space.
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