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wire mold cover removal [message #108130] Fri, 10 December 2010 15:25 Go to next message
jayrabe is currently offline  jayrabe   United States
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OK, I know there must be a trick to this...

Moving slowly into the process of pulling my rear ceiling cap to reinsulate and paint over the yellow and find out where the water is leaking in.

Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off without breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but almost doesn't count in this case...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37165&title=wire-mold-coverbrok&cat=5410

And now that it's broken, can I order replacements from someone?

Thanks,

J
76 PB
Portland, OR
Re: wire mold cover removal [message #108133 is a reply to message #108130] Fri, 10 December 2010 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A PO had replaced that molding with stained oak floor molding, I believe the style is the same as in my house, called "Colonial".

Looks better than new if you ask me.

At the Du Quoin rally Open House several people asked about it and did not believe it until they looked closer.


Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
Re: wire mold cover removal [message #108134 is a reply to message #108133] Fri, 10 December 2010 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also need to know...
1. how to get the old covers off
2. Where/what the new stained oak floor molding covers are avail.


CBWood
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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108136 is a reply to message #108130] Fri, 10 December 2010 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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it is getting harder and harder to find Norman's work

but here is his description of Panduit for this job

http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/wheatley/Wheatley75E2Rebuild.pdf

http://www.panduit.com/

on page 60

gene



On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> OK, I know there must be a trick to this...
>
> Moving slowly into the process of pulling my rear ceiling cap to reinsulate
> and paint over the yellow and find out where the water is leaking in.
>
> Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off without
> breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but almost
> doesn't count in this case...
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37165&title=wire-mold-coverbrok&cat=5410
>
> And now that it's broken, can I order replacements from someone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> J
> 76 PB
> Portland, OR
>
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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108137 is a reply to message #108136] Fri, 10 December 2010 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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more links to norman and Harper

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#INSULATION

harper
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=9844&cat=3843

on how to remove
sigh

gene


On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> it is getting harder and harder to find Norman's work
>
> but here is his description of Panduit for this job
>
> http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/wheatley/Wheatley75E2Rebuild.pdf
>
> http://www.panduit.com/
>
> on page 60
>
> gene
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> OK, I know there must be a trick to this...
>>
>> Moving slowly into the process of pulling my rear ceiling cap to
>> reinsulate and paint over the yellow and find out where the water is leaking
>> in.
>>
>> Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off
>> without breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but
>> almost doesn't count in this case...
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37165&title=wire-mold-coverbrok&cat=5410
>>
>> And now that it's broken, can I order replacements from someone?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> J
>> 76 PB
>> Portland, OR
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> -------
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>



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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108138 is a reply to message #108137] Fri, 10 December 2010 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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you should really read through these

http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#head

gene



On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> more links to norman and Harper
>
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#INSULATION
>
> harper
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=9844&cat=3843
>
> on how to remove
> sigh
>
> gene
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> it is getting harder and harder to find Norman's work
>>
>> but here is his description of Panduit for this job
>>
>> http://www.gmcclassics.com/tech/wheatley/Wheatley75E2Rebuild.pdf
>>
>> http://www.panduit.com/
>>
>> on page 60
>>
>> gene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I know there must be a trick to this...
>>>
>>> Moving slowly into the process of pulling my rear ceiling cap to
>>> reinsulate and paint over the yellow and find out where the water is leaking
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off
>>> without breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but
>>> almost doesn't count in this case...
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37165&title=wire-mold-coverbrok&cat=5410
>>>
>>> And now that it's broken, can I order replacements from someone?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> J
>>> 76 PB
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>> -------
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
>> Alternator Protection Cable
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>



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Re: wire mold cover removal [message #108145 is a reply to message #108130] Fri, 10 December 2010 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is the panduit cover still available? I thought that the cover used is the old metal covering, and I have been unable to find a source for this. I think everything is made of plastic now, and I'm not sure if it will still fit.

Does anyone have a source for the Panduit?


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108146 is a reply to message #108136] Fri, 10 December 2010 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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this is the source that Norman listed, maybe they don't sell retail?
gene

>
> http://www.panduit.com/
>
> on page 60
>
> gene
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> OK, I know there must be a trick to this...
>>
>> Moving slowly into the process of pulling my rear ceiling cap to
>> reinsulate and paint over the yellow and find out where the water is leaking
>> in.
>>
>> Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off
>> without breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but
>> almost doesn't count in this case...
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37165&title=wire-mold-coverbrok&cat=5410
>>
>> And now that it's broken, can I order replacements from someone?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> J
>> 76 PB
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
> -------
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/
> Alternator Protection Cable
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
>



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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108153 is a reply to message #108145] Fri, 10 December 2010 19:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:35 PM, George Rudawsky wrote:

>
>
> Is the panduit cover still available? I thought that the cover used is the old metal covering, and I have been unable to find a source for this. I think everything is made of plastic now, and I'm not sure if it will still fit.
>
> Does anyone have a source for the Panduit?
> --
> George Rudawsky
> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
>

I found it in stock a few years back at Graybar Electrical in Albuquerque. They are a national distributor for it.

Check this out:

http://www.panduit.com/Support/LocateDistributor/index.htm

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108433 is a reply to message #108153] Mon, 13 December 2010 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FWIW, I work for an electrical distributor in Illinois and we do sell the Panduit C3WH6.

PM me if you want more info...


Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108435 is a reply to message #108433] Mon, 13 December 2010 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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I need enough for 2 gmc
I guess the prob is shipping
Gene







On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:54 AM, Paul Zerkel <gmc2@zerkelhome.com> wrote:

>
>
> FWIW, I work for an electrical distributor in Illinois and we do sell the Panduit C3WH6.
>
> PM me if you want more info...
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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108436 is a reply to message #108435] Mon, 13 December 2010 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,
Before you order a bunch are you sure it will fit your coach.
It does not fit one of mine. Don't know which one that is.
The 73 or the 75.
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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108437 is a reply to message #108436] Mon, 13 December 2010 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Charles wrote:

> Gene,
> Before you order a bunch are you sure it will fit your coach.
> It does not fit one of mine. Don't know which one that is.
> The 73 or the 75.
> Charles

It fit my 77. It was tight but snapped over by hooking the top edge and tapping on the bottom edge with a block of wood with a hammer

Emery Stora
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Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108439 is a reply to message #108435] Mon, 13 December 2010 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:06 AM, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:

> I need enough for 2 gmc
> I guess the prob is shipping
> Gene
>


If I recall, it was 8 foot in length so it can be shipped.
However if you check the distributors in your area I am sure that you will find someone that either stocks it or can order in a small amount for you to pick up.

> http://www.panduit.com/Support/LocateDistributor/index.htm

Emery

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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #108440 is a reply to message #108439] Mon, 13 December 2010 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I bought Panduit for my coach, I contacted Panduit
and asked for distributors in my area.
I just checked both coaches and neither one has any on
it. The 73 has original that is chipped/broken above the
door. If I remember correctly that is the coach I bought it
for and it didn't fit. My 75 has been replaced with a
strip of wood covered with foam and ceiling material
some how screwed to the aluminum track.
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Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #114850 is a reply to message #108145] Sat, 12 February 2011 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry so late in responding:
I bought mine from a company called CSC ( they sell all sorts of
computer room equipmen)t: their headquarters are in chicago

http://www.gocsc.com/locations/chicago/

David Paliotta
75 Glenbrook
Tulsa, OK
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is the panduit cover still available?  I thought that the cover used is the old metal covering, and I have been unable to find a source for this.  I think everything is made of plastic now, and I'm not sure if it will still fit.
>
> Does anyone have a source for the Panduit?
> --
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> Chicago, IL
> 75 Palm Beach
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Re: wire mold cover removal [message #114851 is a reply to message #108130] Sat, 12 February 2011 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jayrabe wrote on Fri, 10 December 2010 16:25

OK, I know there must be a trick to this...<>Needed to pull the wire mold covers off, and could not get them off without breaking them. Used a putty knife to pry and almost got one off, but almost doesn't count in this case...<> replacements from someone?


To summarize thousands of posts, Panduit is available from many electrical suppliers in your area, but it only fits later mode coaches, the rest of us have to use some wooden/plastic stuff from the big hardware box stores. If done well, it will look even better than stock


Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
Re: wire mold cover removal [message #114856 is a reply to message #108130] Sun, 13 February 2011 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Years ago in a prior life Panduit was a client of mine. They are headquartered in Tinley Park, Illinois.

They have distributors all over the place. Almost any electrical supply house handles their products. Graybar, Kirby Risk, All Phase, Fastenall, and Anixter are just a few that come to mind.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: wire mold cover removal [message #114880 is a reply to message #108130] Sun, 13 February 2011 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi J,
No, you most likely cannot remove them without breaking so don't spend too much time trying. Yes, you can get replacements in 6 foot lengths and they aren't too expensive. Google Panduit C3WH6 for sources. I found new pieces at a recycling outfit for about 1/3 the normal price.

Glenn


Glenn Giere, Portland OR, K7GAG '73 "Moby the Motorhome" 26'
Re: [GMCnet] wire mold cover removal [message #115126 is a reply to message #114856] Tue, 15 February 2011 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Got a private snail mail from GMCer Forest Crow in Lagrange, IN. He used a Lowe's "skirting" product (#61067, #555216) though I couldn't find the PN on their website, but he says it's still available at his local, at $4.67 for 8'. It does require some modification to fit. He doesn't do the photo site, so I scanned and uploaded the pix he sent me. Pretty nice looking option.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37700&title=raceway-cover&cat=5410
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=37699&title=raceway-cover-mod&cat=5410

J 76 PB Portland, OR

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> Years ago in a prior life Panduit was a client of mine. They are headquartered in Tinley Park, Illinois.
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> They have distributors all over the place. Almost any electrical supply house handles their products. Graybar, Kirby Risk, All Phase, Fastenall, and Anixter are just a few that come to mind.
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