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Speedometer troubleshooting [message #107998] Thu, 09 December 2010 11:27 Go to next message
MangoMushroom is currently offline  MangoMushroom   United States
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Hello GMCers,

Having trouble with my Speedometer... doesn't work consistently, or for the most part, at all!

When the needle stops moving, I can temporarily get it working again by disconnecting the speedo cable from the transducer, and then connecting and tightening again. Then, it will work properly for a few miles. Later, it will start bouncing around dramatically. Finally, it will stop moving altogether soon thereafter.

I've lubed the cable properly, and this doesn't seem to fix the issue. Jim K sold me a small plastic gear that goes in the transmission, but I haven't had time to get underneath and fix it.

Are there any other reasons why my speedometer would not be functioning properly?

Your feedback is encouraged and greatly appreciated. Thank You!

Happy Holidays Everyone!


****MangoMushroom `76 GMC Birchaven named "Harvey"

Re: Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108006 is a reply to message #107998] Thu, 09 December 2010 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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MangoMushroom wrote on Thu, 09 December 2010 10:27

Hello GMCers,

Having trouble with my Speedometer... doesn't work consistently, or for the most part, at all!

When the needle stops moving, I can temporarily get it working again by disconnecting the speedo cable from the transducer, and then connecting and tightening again. Then, it will work properly for a few miles. Later, it will start bouncing around dramatically. Finally, it will stop moving altogether soon thereafter.

I've lubed the cable properly, and this doesn't seem to fix the issue. Jim K sold me a small plastic gear that goes in the transmission, but I haven't had time to get underneath and fix it.

Are there any other reasons why my speedometer would not be functioning properly?

Your feedback is encouraged and greatly appreciated. Thank You!

Happy Holidays Everyone!

It almost sounds like the cable is disengaging at the speedo head or the cruise transducer. I doubt very much that it is the gear in the governor since that will be an all or nothing situation and your trans won't shift. It's possible that the femal fitting at the speedo or the transducer may be rounded out a bit just enough to keep the cable engaged at the ends.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108007 is a reply to message #107998] Thu, 09 December 2010 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Andre, Portland Speedometer can restore that to new condition, I just had
them re do a speedo head for a 69 Dodge PU & they did a super job for about
$130.00 including Freight. Let me know if it is the speedometer head & I
will give you a Phone # to call them.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Andre Mandel <andre.mandel@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello GMCers,
>
> Having trouble with my Speedometer... doesn't work consistently, or for the
> most part, at all!
>
> When the needle stops moving, I can temporarily get it working again by
> disconnecting the speedo cable from the transducer, and then connecting and
> tightening again. Then, it will work properly for a few miles. Later, it
> will start bouncing around dramatically. Finally, it will stop moving
> altogether soon thereafter.
>
> I've lubed the cable properly, and this doesn't seem to fix the issue. Jim
> K sold me a small plastic gear that goes in the transmission, but I haven't
> had time to get underneath and fix it.
>
> Are there any other reasons why my speedometer would not be functioning
> properly?
>
> Your feedback is encouraged and greatly appreciated. Thank You!
>
> Happy Holidays Everyone!
> --
> ****MangoMushroom
> `76 GMC Birchaven
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Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108009 is a reply to message #108007] Thu, 09 December 2010 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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On my coach, the speedometer quit working, but the trans still shifted properly. The fault was the transducer added to the speedo cable to provide the signal to the cruise control. I would look at that, and make use the both parts of the cable are connected and lubed.
Tom Phipps, sans GMC


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Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108013 is a reply to message #108009] Thu, 09 December 2010 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
spiffycar is currently offline  spiffycar   United States
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Take a minute and pop the speedo bullet out of the transmission for a quick check.The driver gear and its shaft the cable goes into are usually plastic and could be worn/damaged as well.

Paul W L
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Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108037 is a reply to message #108013] Thu, 09 December 2010 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hal kading is currently offline  hal kading   United States
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I second Paul's suggestion. The plastic gear has a rectangular hole in the end of the shaft. If it gets rounded out the speedometer cable may slip just like you are describing. You may need to lube the cables and the speedometer correction box to keep it from happening again.

Hal Kading 77 Kingsley 455 Las Cruces NM
Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108087 is a reply to message #108037] Fri, 10 December 2010 00:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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You can pop that speedo gear from top side. I have done it several times. One wrench to loosen bolt and just pull it out. I had a stripped gear last year.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108099 is a reply to message #108087] Fri, 10 December 2010 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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All of the suggestions have been good -- for individual parts of the system.
But no one's suggested using a logical approach to the problem: Start at
the center of the series of components -- the cruise control transducer.

1. Jack up the front end high enough to provide wheel clearance from the
ground so you can make the speedometer work. Place jack stands for safety.

2. Disconnect the speedometer cable from the input side of the CC.

3. Start the engine and put the transmission in Drive.

4. Check for rotation of the disconnected cable grasp it lightly with your
fingers to try to prevent rotation.

A. If it's rotating strongly, the problem's NOT with the speedometer
gear, VSS, or lower cable. Check the upper cable, then the speedometer
itself.

B. If the cable won't continue to rotate when you grip it, then the
problem IS with one of those items. Earlier suggestions should be helpful
in determining which is the culprit.

HTH,

Ken "Always Start in the Middle" H.


On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> You can pop that speedo gear from top side. I have done it several times.
> One wrench to loosen bolt and just pull it out. I had a stripped gear last
> year.
> Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer troubleshooting [message #108849 is a reply to message #108099] Sat, 18 December 2010 14:09 Go to previous message
MangoMushroom is currently offline  MangoMushroom   United States
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Everyone,

Thank you so kindly for all your great feedback... looking forward to solving this problem when I return from being "home" for the holidays

Season's Greetings from Pittsburgh, PA!!!


****MangoMushroom `76 GMC Birchaven named "Harvey"

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