| Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter [message #107829] |
Tue, 07 December 2010 14:28  |
Richard Brown
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This may not be relevant, since your engine has so few miles on it, but I had the same problem with a 455 in an Olds wagon many years ago. I was a teenager & didn't know much, but I figured I'd need to tear down the engine to fix it. It would quiet down, but the tapping never quite went away. I asked a neighbor to have a look. He asked me when was the last time I changed the oil & I told him that I had about 1500 miles on the oil in it. He got a can of Marvel Mystery Oil from his garage & poured it into the oil. He told me to run it a day or 2 & change the oil & filter. The oil in it was still fairly clean, but I said OK. 2 days later when I drained the oil, it was BLACK! The tapping had stopped by the time I had changed the oil. Apparently the oil passages to the lifters was restricted & the Marvel dissolved the varnish & restored oil pressure to the lifters.
I'm not saying that Marvel Mystery Oil will solve your problem, but at this point it's not gonna hurt much. If the only thing it does is clean the oil passages, it's still a good thing...
By the way, at the time, I was using Ford Diesel tractor oil in it. My dad bought it in 55 gallon drums for the farm equipment, so it was near to hand. It's about as severe duty as oil got in those days & we ran it in everything with good results.
Richard & Carol Brown
PO Box 941
Lindale, TX. 75771
1974 GMC Eleganza SE (DILLIGAF)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter [message #107893 is a reply to message #107829] |
Wed, 08 December 2010 08:43  |
midlf
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| Richard Brown wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:28 |
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, but I figured I'd need to tear down the engine to fix it. It would quiet down, but the tapping never quite went away. I asked a neighbor to have a look. He asked me when was the last time I changed the oil & I told him that I had about 1500 miles on the oil in it. He got a can of Marvel Mystery Oil from his garage & poured it into the oil. He told me to run it a day or 2 & change the oil & filter. The oil in it was still fairly clean, but I said OK. 2 days later when I drained the oil, it was BLACK! The tapping had stopped by the time I had changed the oil.
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Richard & Carol Brown
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I've done the same engine cleanup process using a quart of Dexron ATF. Cheaper than MMO but doesn't smell as nice.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter [message #107985 is a reply to message #107893] |
Thu, 09 December 2010 08:24 |
gmcrv1
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Back in the day (mid 1960's), I worked at my uncle's gas station - actually
he owned the local taxi cab business. He ran Dodge Coronets with the 225
slant six engines. These cars ran 1,000 miles per week on the odometer -
that does not count the idle time running the engine for heat or AC as the
cabs sat waiting for a call.
Every once in a while a noisy lifter would make it self known. The old time
mechanic would have me pull the filter and add a pint of Liquid Wrench. The
car was sent out for the day and then did an oil change at the end of the
shift. Oil came out black and nasty. 9 out of 10 times the noise went
away.
Another trick he had was to add some brake fluid to the transmission oil to
soften the seals and gaskets to stop leaks. Worked sometimes...
We ran Quaker State Super Blend.
Just sharing some of life's experiences.
*Happy Motoring!*
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Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:
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> Richard Brown wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:28
> > <snip>
> >
> > , but I figured I'd need to tear down the engine to fix it. It would
> quiet down, but the tapping never quite went away. I asked a neighbor to
> have a look. He asked me when was the last time I changed the oil & I told
> him that I had about 1500 miles on the oil in it. He got a can of Marvel
> Mystery Oil from his garage & poured it into the oil. He told me to run it a
> day or 2 & change the oil & filter. The oil in it was still fairly clean,
> but I said OK. 2 days later when I drained the oil, it was BLACK! The
> tapping had stopped by the time I had changed the oil.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> > Richard & Carol Brown
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>
>
> I've done the same engine cleanup process using a quart of Dexron ATF.
> Cheaper than MMO but doesn't smell as nice.
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter [message #107987 is a reply to message #107985] |
Thu, 09 December 2010 09:06 |
k2gkk
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I added a pint of Marvel Mystery Oil to my
crankcase yesterday. I'm just hoping the
"ticking" at startup is just a lifter and
NOT the sign of a rod bearing getting ready
to crater.
A local independent shop mechanic added a
quart of ATF at an oil change about a year
ago. It "seemed" to help for awhile.
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> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:24:29 -0600
> From: gmcrv1@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter
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> Back in the day (mid 1960's), I worked at my uncle's gas station - actually
> he owned the local taxi cab business. He ran Dodge Coronets with the 225
> slant six engines. These cars ran 1,000 miles per week on the odometer -
> that does not count the idle time running the engine for heat or AC as the
> cabs sat waiting for a call.
>
> Every once in a while a noisy lifter would make it self known. The old time
> mechanic would have me pull the filter and add a pint of Liquid Wrench. The
> car was sent out for the day and then did an oil change at the end of the
> shift. Oil came out black and nasty. 9 out of 10 times the noise went
> away.
>
> Another trick he had was to add some brake fluid to the transmission oil to
> soften the seals and gaskets to stop leaks. Worked sometimes...
>
> We ran Quaker State Super Blend.
> Just sharing some of life's experiences.
>
>
> *Happy Motoring!*
> **
> Tom Eckert N2VWN
> 73 Glacier
> Oakland, TN
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Steve Southworth <midlf@centurytel.net>wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Richard Brown wrote on Tue, 07 December 2010 14:28
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > , but I figured I'd need to tear down the engine to fix it. It would
> > quiet down, but the tapping never quite went away. I asked a neighbor to
> > have a look. He asked me when was the last time I changed the oil & I told
> > him that I had about 1500 miles on the oil in it. He got a can of Marvel
> > Mystery Oil from his garage & poured it into the oil. He told me to run it a
> > day or 2 & change the oil & filter. The oil in it was still fairly clean,
> > but I said OK. 2 days later when I drained the oil, it was BLACK! The
> > tapping had stopped by the time I had changed the oil.
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard & Carol Brown
> >
> >
> >
> > I've done the same engine cleanup process using a quart of Dexron ATF.
> > Cheaper than MMO but doesn't smell as nice.
> > --
> > Steve Southworth
> > 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
> > Palmyra WI
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
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| Re: [GMCnet] Noisy Lifter [message #108061 is a reply to message #107829] |
Thu, 09 December 2010 21:04 |
RadioActiveGMC
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I used that marvel oil today, and honestly I'm shocked it worked like magic in a bottle. I did 5 qt of rotella 15/40 and 1 qt of mystery oil, my motor is running like a top, a lot quieter and no lifter noise at all. I drove it down the same road I always do and it was amazing to hear it drive so quiet.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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