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| [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107418] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 18:14  |
Steven Ferguson
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Just got a call from Dan Borlaise. Sounds like a stripped governor gear, he
has low gear only. An overnight shipment from Jim K should have him back
road sometime tomorrow......if Jim answers the phone.
If anyone is on the road, or near, Dan's cell is 250-870-1048. They're at a
truck stop in Deming, which is just about all there is in Deming.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107421 is a reply to message #107418] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 18:21  |
Mr ERFisher
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he should remove the spedo , cable, after the new gear is in place,
Something stripped the gear....
good thing to look into, but at home ;>)
gene
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Just got a call from Dan Borlaise. Sounds like a stripped governor gear,
> he
> has low gear only. An overnight shipment from Jim K should have him back
> road sometime tomorrow......if Jim answers the phone.
> If anyone is on the road, or near, Dan's cell is 250-870-1048. They're at
> a
> truck stop in Deming, which is just about all there is in Deming.
> --
> Steve Ferguson
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107428 is a reply to message #107421] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 19:32 |
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Gene,
If he has one of those gizmos that correct the speedo for a lower gear ratio
he should remove that too!
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie
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he should remove the spedo , cable, after the new gear is in place,
Something stripped the gear....
good thing to look into, but at home ;>)
gene
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107429 is a reply to message #107421] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 19:33 |
jimk
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Were not a hobby shop so while I was in a meeting our staff had
already figured the part they need to ship UPS Red Saturday delivery.
Saturdays are expensive, but we got it out. Since the reguler UPS
picked up at 3 pm, we had to drop it off at the central UPS for it to
go out.
Our staff also cofirmed that Demming was on the Sat. delivery point.
Out here in the West, there are places too remote for UPS to do Air
Freight much less a Saturday delivery.
Let me hear from all the helpfull people that can tell the world where
they can get the part cheaper and to them Sat AM.
All these helpfull people are the reason why I will be cutting back on
donating parts for raffles and other club requests.
It's not fair to post all the places that can get it cheaper.
Don't forget who made it possible for the Gmail to get $9,900 3 years ago.
Were trying to help the community, Jim B, Jeff Sirum,Tom Hampton,Ken
Frey,and Miguil Mendez.
We inventory parts and answer phones and give advise all day and the
helpfull friends do all they can to put us out of business.
If I offended many, too bad.
There are lot of people that feel its worthwhile to have us support
the community.
Why don'y you go to your local parts supply and ask how to look up a
fuel pump? Y
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com> wrote:
> he should remove the spedo , cable, after the new gear is in place,
> Something stripped the gear....
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> good thing to look into, but at home ;>)
> gene
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> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Just got a call from Dan Borlaise. Â Sounds like a stripped governor gear,
>> he
>> has low gear only. Â An overnight shipment from Jim K should have him back
>> road sometime tomorrow......if Jim answers the phone.
>> If anyone is on the road, or near, Dan's cell is 250-870-1048. Â They're at
>> a
>> truck stop in Deming, which is just about all there is in Deming.
>> --
>> Steve Ferguson
>> Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107434 is a reply to message #107418] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 20:14 |
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I maybe the new guy but I hear you Jim K. I own a company and have helped people SOOOOOO much over the years. It amazes me still that I offer hrs and hrs of free advise on the phone, email people technical info daily, get after hours text messages, and yet I get some people that feel I have no right to make a dime and will go someplace else cause they can save a few bucks.
Good customer service costs a company a good amount of money. I have tons of competitors that know little to nothing but are cheaper and people will call me ask me for advise and buy from them after spending hours of time with me on the phone. In this economy I understand saving money, but dealers that have been in business for years and advise is worth tons sometimes is overlooked.
Having a supplier on a forum that is honest and helpful is worth more then any cheap price a person can get.
***"Gettin There"-1973 23' Sequoia-
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107441 is a reply to message #107434] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 20:51 |
jimk
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I think people like to show off what they know by referring people to
non GMC vendors.
Too much of this goes on , so they can continue these knowledge show off.
Majority on the net have no clue as to what we carry. They are always
wanting to know where to get a part.
I'm sure Jim B will chime in later.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
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> I maybe the new guy but I hear you Jim K. I own a company and have helped people SOOOOOO much over the years. It amazes me still that I offer hrs and hrs of free advise on the phone, email people technical info daily, get after hours text messages, and yet I get some people that feel I have no right to make a dime and will go someplace else cause they can save a few bucks.
> Good customer service costs a company a good amount of money. I have tons of competitors that know little to nothing but are cheaper and people will call me ask me for advise and buy from them after spending hours of time with me on the phone. In this economy I understand saving money, but dealers that have been in business for years and advise is worth tons sometimes is overlooked.
> Having a supplier on a forum that is honest and helpful is worth more then any cheap price a person can get.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107454 is a reply to message #107418] |
Fri, 03 December 2010 22:04 |
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Jim, though price is always an issue with consumers, there are also many of us that are just as (if not more) concerned in getting the best part rather than just the cheapest part. Anything that can minimize future breakdowns is well worth the money spent. As it's harder and harder to get parts for older vehicles that are not being made overseas, we really need to know what the right part is and who can supply that part. Also, we all know that if you have a spare, that part will never break (however, having it to help another owner is great karma for anyone).
Remember, you have to support your vendors if you want them to stay in business! I could have never gotten as far as easily with my coach restoration if it wasn't for the long distance help and parts that I've received from both Jims and Miguel Mendez.
George Rudawsky
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75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107486 is a reply to message #107429] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 09:14 |
Jim Bounds
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I've been so buried in stuff around the shop trying to keep my head above water
that did not see this thread as it is unravelling to show "The Emperiers New
Clothes" -- if you know what I mean. I have had 2 people contact me telling me
about whats going on so I guess I need to wade into this mess and see how much
stuff I can get on my boots. You know me, I'm nuts enough to jump up & down on
that proverbial "thin limb"-- some people like me for that while others do not
and talk behind my back which is a big reason why I have had to (as Jim K.
pointed out) cannot be as involved in the overall GMC community as I wished I
could.
Guys come on, yo must understand and listen to what Jim K. is saying about
trying to support a niche business trying to be all that is possible for you
guys. Put yourself in our shoes for a minute-- an American small business-- the
next persecuted institution--- the industry they say supports the American
economy while the fat cats snag all the profits we are sitting out here, our
butts swinging in the breeze while some guy in a phone booth in N. Dakota (don't
mean to pick on the great state of cold as hell) or a huge business that stacks
stuff high, sells it cheap and has a customer service dept made up of $10 an
hour pre-med students. We are here pushing the community, we are the ones that
tries to keep that obscure part no one else has or even wants to have. We are
the ones investing our "farms" in the belief that if we support the GMC
community they will in turn support us. We are out here, no other means of
income-- I do not have a 401K account, retirement, a big fat bank account or any
of that. My business and I'll bet Jim K.'s too is living week to week if maybe
month to month. Our CPA and I bet his too tell us we need to make at least 40%
profit on parts to pay for them counting the beans, pay our taxes, our warehouse
overhead, our personell and all that goes with advertising, promoting and
supporting folks who own and want to keep their GMC on the road and a viable
alternative to riding around in a big toaster box.
Now I know all that just now was a mouthful but again, put yourself in our shoes
and I hope you can see how paranoid the situations pushes you to be. Then add
to all that people disseminating alternative sources for parts-- I will
absolutly guaranty if you ask a guy who specializes in Corvettes about issues
with the fuel system on a GMC he will first say "oh yes, I remember those
things-- do they have a drive shaft?" So what is he doing to support you guys
other than supplying a part he is selling to a community with literally
thousands of customers?
If you do the math, add shipping & handling, investing in inventory dollars at @
2% per month financinging charge (money costs money to use) --so now the part
"vapor seperator" that is the object of this frustration has a projected cost of
@ $89. Looking at the fact that another GMC supplier sells the thing for over
$125, us offering it for @ $89 is a fair deal for everyone. Now steps in the
direction to not purchase this part to what I would call a "normal line of
distribution to the GMC community" to send your money to a Corvette supplier and
let the GMC supplier guys "eat it"--- so where does that put your head, how
would you feel? I had first screamed like the proverbial mashed cat about this
when someone told me I was a rip off when I found parts, inventoried them and
supporting people who need them with them. Yes, it hurt my feelings which is
what I bet it has done to Jim K.. He has really done a great deal to help the
community-- much more than I could even think about-- why-- because my wife is
my CFO, she is big friends with my female CPA and they tell me to get real or go
find a job that can support itself. I have told them so long that I'm not
finished yet and I love what I do so much that until the stacks go under the
water I will stay on board.
Trying to pay the bills and make some sort of living in a niche industry where a
major segment of the community is trying to go around you is insanity. This is
mainly why I cannot partiicipate in the community the way I would like to. I
cannot give away stuff, it cost me $1000 in fuel to make the DuQuion rally,
could only stay a day because when I'm not at the shop income does not come in--
so I hate to say it and I will probably have folks say I am a whiner but I did
not see any recognition in any publications or anywhere that I and Ralph was
there and supporting the community at all. Yep, so now I should probably stick
my other foot in my mouth and put yourself in my shoes after blowing a big bill
to go and now the uncome picture of parts sales has been successfully undermined
and eroded because of nothing I or any other dealer has done--- "why am I in
this hand basket and where are we going?"
So now I have a quantity of vapor seperator that it took to get me a price on
it. If I sell them for $50 each, figuring in shipping, inventory cost and the
margin my CPA says I must have or I should get out of the business-- I should
get out of the business. Each supplier does not buy quantities of these things
to get any break at all-- I bought them and sent some to Jim K. to help move
through the pile I have. He is sending them back to me mainly because you guys
are telling everyone ot not buy them from us--- on this issue I hope all of you
understand when I look at this as desasterous for my business.
So I can hear it--"if you can;t stand the heat in the kitchen, get out of it"
and maybe we all should! Maybe all of you should have to make for yourself the
quad bag system and all of the other parts. Maybe the GMC specialty vendors
should just blow off the business, get out of it and go do something else. Want
that? Keep it up. Call me a hothead, a loose cannon, a self centered idiot----
I say I'm just trying to stay in business doing something I love and think there
is a need for. I have had to just push away from the table and not say my peace
about subjects such as this mainly because it's only seving non supporters,
makes me look like a whiner and weak. I think probably Jim K. is stresssed as
much and maybe more than me because he works very hard, very long hours and
feels like he should get more support. I dog that but I have had to be content
with the people who appreciate what we try to do and let the other people do
what they want. Which list are you in?
Guys really, it is not always the cheapest, the easiest and the most efficient
thing to support people. Ok, give that WE all need your support because our
customers list is short and if you do not support us-- then bunky why are we
here?
Just MY humble opinion and if you have a contrasting view-- feel it your job in
life to break us down then brother go for it because I will not say any more.
Everyone has an obligation to support the entire GMC community-- thats we we are
all banded together. Do you support the Elks Lodge, donate to them, go to
dinners and all and am a member of that august group because the meals are
cheaper than Taco Bell? Do you go to GMCMI & WS rallies because the food is
better and cheaper, the nights camping is cheaper and all that? No, you do it
to support the community-- OK then, the specialty GMC vendors are a part of what
should be supported. How you support the community is up to you-- I'm going to
shut up now, sorry if I have alienated myself further from some but I hope I
have made a point.
Jim Bounds
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107488 is a reply to message #107429] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 10:01 |
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| jimk wrote on Fri, 03 December 2010 20:33 |
Were not a hobby shop so while I was in a meeting our staff had already figured the part they need to ship UPS Red Saturday delivery. Saturdays are expensive, but we got it out. Since the reguler UPS picked up at 3 pm, we had to drop it off at the central UPS for it to go out. Our staff also cofirmed that Demming was on the Sat. delivery point. Out here in the West, there are places too remote for UPS to do Air Freight much less a Saturday delivery.
Let me hear from all the helpfull people that can tell the world where they can get the part cheaper and to them Sat AM.<>
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An heroic effort to support a customer and get him on the road again. That's why we love you, man.
I can understand what the vendors have as the concern here, since I was in the retail business years ago. Support the vendors.
But the issue must have cropped up off line, because all I saw on the forum was someone who would have been able to give the replacement if they had only known in time, and would have taken it to them.
That is not weaseling down the price, it is helping a fellow GMCer.
"or so I thought"
Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
1973 26 foot Glacier, White Thing
Raleigh NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107508 is a reply to message #107441] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 12:24 |
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Jim;
According to my last invoices from you, I'm sure not guilty of going to
outside vendors for my parts & never will
if I can avoid it.
From Jim (Duncan) Decheine
JADE
73 23' ?? 73 26' Palm Desert
Ajo, AZ
KC7QGC
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From: "Jim Kanomata" <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming
>I think people like to show off what they know by referring people to
> non GMC vendors.
> Too much of this goes on , so they can continue these knowledge show off.
> Majority on the net have no clue as to what we carry. They are always
> wanting to know where to get a part.
> I'm sure Jim B will chime in later.
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
>>
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>> I maybe the new guy but I hear you Jim K. I own a company and have helped
>> people SOOOOOO much over the years. It amazes me still that I offer hrs
>> and hrs of free advise on the phone, email people technical info daily,
>> get after hours text messages, and yet I get some people that feel I have
>> no right to make a dime and will go someplace else cause they can save a
>> few bucks.
>> Good customer service costs a company a good amount of money. I have tons
>> of competitors that know little to nothing but are cheaper and people
>> will call me ask me for advise and buy from them after spending hours of
>> time with me on the phone. In this economy I understand saving money, but
>> dealers that have been in business for years and advise is worth tons
>> sometimes is overlooked.
>> Having a supplier on a forum that is honest and helpful is worth more
>> then any cheap price a person can get.
>>
>> --
>> 1973 23' Sequoia
>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107514 is a reply to message #107508] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 14:04 |
jimk
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Jim D.
I do not care if they shop else where. My problem is where these
people always chime in with places that have that one special part for
sale at great prices after someone mentioned a GMC vendor as a
source.
Its almost like a situation where a person is at a store looking to
purchase a TV, and someone walks by and tells him that he can get a
better price down the street.
This is as bad as walking into Target store with handful of Wall Mart
ads and passing it out.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Jim Decheine
<jade@tabletoptelephone.com> wrote:
> Jim;
> According to my last invoices from you, I'm sure not guilty of going to
> outside vendors for my parts & never will
> if I can avoid it.
> From Jim (Duncan) Decheine
> JADE
> 73 23' ?? Â 73 26' Palm Desert
> Ajo, AZ
> KC7QGC
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Kanomata" <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming
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>>I think people like to show off what they know by referring people to
>> non GMC vendors.
>> Too much of this goes on , so they can continue these knowledge show off.
>> Majority on the net have no clue as to what we carry. They are always
>> wanting to know where to get a part.
>> I'm sure Jim B will chime in later.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I maybe the new guy but I hear you Jim K. I own a company and have helped
>>> people SOOOOOO much over the years. It amazes me still that I offer hrs
>>> and hrs of free advise on the phone, email people technical info daily,
>>> get after hours text messages, and yet I get some people that feel I have
>>> no right to make a dime and will go someplace else cause they can save a
>>> few bucks.
>>> Good customer service costs a company a good amount of money. I have tons
>>> of competitors that know little to nothing but are cheaper and people
>>> will call me ask me for advise and buy from them after spending hours of
>>> time with me on the phone. In this economy I understand saving money, but
>>> dealers that have been in business for years and advise is worth tons
>>> sometimes is overlooked.
>>> Having a supplier on a forum that is honest and helpful is worth more
>>> then any cheap price a person can get.
>>>
>>> --
>>> 1973 23' Sequoia
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107516 is a reply to message #107514] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 14:45 |
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I'm going to dare to wade in this shark pool... There's a problem with
this list, and sometimes I have to stop reading it. People come here
for help when they're having a problem. If you just read this list too
often you can easily get depressed and paranoid. I have to be careful.
I am a new owner, I am not retired and my family chose to buy an antique
motorhome. One of the reasons that we felt comfortable driving a "piece
of ...history" was the expertise and proximity of Jim K and Nick G. I
threw a lot of questions at those guys and they had answers.
There's a lot of places where I can buy "parts." They're usually very
difficult to find and/or the wrong ones, but they are out there. I'd
prefer not to fool around and appreciate that these guys have the parts
I need. I'll happily drive 45 miles to Fremont when I need something
and often have. I'm grateful that it's only 45 miles.
What I can't find, and won't find anywhere else, are people who know
what they are doing with the GMC. When I take my coach to Applied it is
because I completely trust them to know things that I don't about how
these exotic machines work. Sometimes, because this community is mostly
self-sufficient and DIY I get a feeling that I may be too dependent on
shops to keep my coach going, but the reality is that I make my living
by knowing and learning other things.
I buy parts and I pay what Jim asks when he has what I need. Sometimes
I pay his guys to install them when I trust that they know things that I
don't and can do things that I can't. I make jokes about how they'll
get all of my money, but as long as the work is done well and I'm
satisfied with it that's a value to me. I'm not sure they know how I
feel about it. I'm happy to take my work to them if it keeps me
enjoying the coach I love. I understand that it's 33 years old and that
every time you touch it to fix something, you might break something
else. My family has always been in the auto body business, old cars are
tricky but true (rare) craftsmen can handle them and they get paid what
they are worth.
Like many of you, I also own and run a small specialty business. I
retain my customers solely by solving their problems when many other,
cheaper places can't. They continue to pay me because they value my
expertise. I think that this is the right approach.
DC
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1977 GMC ex-Palm Beach, 26-3
Treasure Island, CA
KC6VHG, KAG0675 "980"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107523 is a reply to message #107516] |
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Kerry Tandy
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Very Well Said, Desmond.
Kerry Tandy
Bewartz Farms
Gold Canyon, AZ
Efax-253-563-2514
To see where we are now, click on
http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=38
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Blog:http://bewartz1.blogspot.com/
Pray Incessantly!!!
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 13:51, Desmond's GMC <980@opg.org> wrote:
> I'm going to dare to wade in this shark pool... There's a problem with
> this list, and sometimes I have to stop reading it. People come here
> for help when they're having a problem. If you just read this list too
> often you can easily get depressed and paranoid. I have to be careful.
>
> I am a new owner, I am not retired and my family chose to buy an antique
> motorhome. One of the reasons that we felt comfortable driving a "piece
> of ...history" was the expertise and proximity of Jim K and Nick G. I
> threw a lot of questions at those guys and they had answers.
>
> There's a lot of places where I can buy "parts." They're usually very
> difficult to find and/or the wrong ones, but they are out there. I'd
> prefer not to fool around and appreciate that these guys have the parts
> I need. I'll happily drive 45 miles to Fremont when I need something
> and often have. I'm grateful that it's only 45 miles.
>
> What I can't find, and won't find anywhere else, are people who know
> what they are doing with the GMC. When I take my coach to Applied it is
> because I completely trust them to know things that I don't about how
> these exotic machines work. Sometimes, because this community is mostly
> self-sufficient and DIY I get a feeling that I may be too dependent on
> shops to keep my coach going, but the reality is that I make my living
> by knowing and learning other things.
>
> I buy parts and I pay what Jim asks when he has what I need. Sometimes
> I pay his guys to install them when I trust that they know things that I
> don't and can do things that I can't. I make jokes about how they'll
> get all of my money, but as long as the work is done well and I'm
> satisfied with it that's a value to me. I'm not sure they know how I
> feel about it. I'm happy to take my work to them if it keeps me
> enjoying the coach I love. I understand that it's 33 years old and that
> every time you touch it to fix something, you might break something
> else. My family has always been in the auto body business, old cars are
> tricky but true (rare) craftsmen can handle them and they get paid what
> they are worth.
>
> Like many of you, I also own and run a small specialty business. I
> retain my customers solely by solving their problems when many other,
> cheaper places can't. They continue to pay me because they value my
> expertise. I think that this is the right approach.
>
> DC
> --
>
> 1977 GMC ex-Palm Beach, 26-3
> Treasure Island, CA
> KC6VHG, KAG0675 "980"
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107525 is a reply to message #107514] |
Sat, 04 December 2010 16:24 |
jade
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There are still a few of us out there Jim that will try to keep you guys
going.
I SURE HOPE SO as I would be lost without all of you.
JADE
>> 73 23' ?? 73 26' Palm Desert
>> Ajo, AZ
>> KC7QGC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Kanomata" <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming
> Jim D.
> I do not care if they shop else where. My problem is where these
> people always chime in with places that have that one special part for
> sale at great prices after someone mentioned a GMC vendor as a
> source.
> Its almost like a situation where a person is at a store looking to
> purchase a TV, and someone walks by and tells him that he can get a
> better price down the street.
> This is as bad as walking into Target store with handful of Wall Mart
> ads and passing it out.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Jim Decheine
> <jade@tabletoptelephone.com> wrote:
>> Jim;
>> According to my last invoices from you, I'm sure not guilty of going to
>> outside vendors for my parts & never will
>> if I can avoid it.
>> From Jim (Duncan) Decheine
>> JADE
>> 73 23' ?? 73 26' Palm Desert
>> Ajo, AZ
>> KC7QGC
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Kanomata" <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
>> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming
>>
>>
>>>I think people like to show off what they know by referring people to
>>> non GMC vendors.
>>> Too much of this goes on , so they can continue these knowledge show
>>> off.
>>> Majority on the net have no clue as to what we carry. They are always
>>> wanting to know where to get a part.
>>> I'm sure Jim B will chime in later.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael <radioactive626@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I maybe the new guy but I hear you Jim K. I own a company and have
>>>> helped
>>>> people SOOOOOO much over the years. It amazes me still that I offer hrs
>>>> and hrs of free advise on the phone, email people technical info daily,
>>>> get after hours text messages, and yet I get some people that feel I
>>>> have
>>>> no right to make a dime and will go someplace else cause they can save
>>>> a
>>>> few bucks.
>>>> Good customer service costs a company a good amount of money. I have
>>>> tons
>>>> of competitors that know little to nothing but are cheaper and people
>>>> will call me ask me for advise and buy from them after spending hours
>>>> of
>>>> time with me on the phone. In this economy I understand saving money,
>>>> but
>>>> dealers that have been in business for years and advise is worth tons
>>>> sometimes is overlooked.
>>>> Having a supplier on a forum that is honest and helpful is worth more
>>>> then any cheap price a person can get.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 1973 23' Sequoia
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Kanomata
>>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>> 1-800-752-7502
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> --
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107560 is a reply to message #107516] |
Sun, 05 December 2010 06:45 |
Steven Ferguson
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That is something I constantly repeat during my seminars at conventions and
rallys. There are mechanics, good mechanics, and GMC mechanics. It is
almost impossible to find a good GMC mechanic without going to a GMC
facility. I have a power point presentation that will scare the heck out of
you and make you mad at the same time and it only covers the damage done to
control arms by so-called mechanics who will gladly take your money for
their poor performance. For the past 10 years I have been repairing GMC
control arms that were not properly rebuilt by non-GMC mechanics. In every
case (with the only exception being owner shade tree efforts), the hack
gladly took the money and delivered an inferior product. I have never
repaired an OEM, factory rivited ball joint, lower control arm. Only those
that have been rebuilt by non-GMC specialists.
A little paranoia is good, keeps you checking the little things that are
guaranteed to ruin your good times. The end purpose of this list is to
help, not depress.
You have good customers who return to you for the same reason that we have
GMC specialists who manage to remain in business to serve us.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Desmond's GMC <980@opg.org> wrote:
> I'm going to dare to wade in this shark pool... There's a problem with
> this list, and sometimes I have to stop reading it. People come here
> for help when they're having a problem. If you just read this list too
> often you can easily get depressed and paranoid. I have to be careful.
>
> There's a lot of places where I can buy "parts." ...... I'd
> prefer not to fool around and appreciate that these guys have the parts
> I need.
> What I can't find, and won't find anywhere else, are people who know
> what they are doing with the GMC. When I take my coach to Applied it is
> because I completely trust them toLike many of you, I also own and run a
> small specialty business. I
> retain my customers solely by solving their problems when many other,
> cheaper places can't. They continue to pay me because they value my
> expertise. I think that this is the right approach.
> --
>
Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107565 is a reply to message #107560] |
Sun, 05 December 2010 08:23 |
k2gkk
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I just wish I had ANY access to knowlegeable GMC service!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
~ ~ ~ ex-Palm Beach, 76 ~ ~ ~
~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 05:45:33 -0700
> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming
>
> That is something I constantly repeat during my seminars at conventions and
> rallys. There are mechanics, good mechanics, and GMC mechanics. It is
> almost impossible to find a good GMC mechanic without going to a GMC
> facility. I have a power point presentation that will scare the heck out of
> you and make you mad at the same time and it only covers the damage done to
> control arms by so-called mechanics who will gladly take your money for
> their poor performance. For the past 10 years I have been repairing GMC
> control arms that were not properly rebuilt by non-GMC mechanics. In every
> case (with the only exception being owner shade tree efforts), the hack
> gladly took the money and delivered an inferior product. I have never
> repaired an OEM, factory rivited ball joint, lower control arm. Only those
> that have been rebuilt by non-GMC specialists.
> A little paranoia is good, keeps you checking the little things that are
> guaranteed to ruin your good times. The end purpose of this list is to
> help, not depress.
> You have good customers who return to you for the same reason that we have
> GMC specialists who manage to remain in business to serve us.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Desmond's GMC <980@opg.org> wrote:
>
> > I'm going to dare to wade in this shark pool... There's a problem with
> > this list, and sometimes I have to stop reading it. People come here
> > for help when they're having a problem. If you just read this list too
> > often you can easily get depressed and paranoid. I have to be careful.
> >
> > There's a lot of places where I can buy "parts." ...... I'd
> > prefer not to fool around and appreciate that these guys have the parts
> > I need.
>
>
>
> > What I can't find, and won't find anywhere else, are people who know
> > what they are doing with the GMC. When I take my coach to Applied it is
> > because I completely trust them toLike many of you, I also own and run a
> > small specialty business. I
> > retain my customers solely by solving their problems when many other,
> > cheaper places can't. They continue to pay me because they value my
> > expertise. I think that this is the right approach.
> > --
> >
> Steve Ferguson
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Broke down in Deming [message #107568 is a reply to message #107565] |
Sun, 05 December 2010 09:30 |
Charles
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Mac,
You do have access to knowledgeable service. You just need to drive
a little ways to get it. 1,171 to Cinnabar, 1,336 to co-op, 1, 613 to
Applied GMC. You are pretty much centrally located so it shouldn't
matter which one you choose to use. I recommend the two Jims 1st.
Charles
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