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Fri, 12 November 2010 08:48  |
Terry Skinner
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A lot of the truck drivers here in the Northwest line the inside of
the wheel wells with indoor-outdoor carpeting or that stuff that looks
like plastic scratch pad. It really minimizes the spray that comes off
the tires. Less spray on your towd without that hoakie hula skirt that
some people attach under the rear bumper.
As for mudflaps:
Washington State Fender Laws:
All wheels of a motor vehicle shall be equipped with fenders designed
to cover the entire tire tread width that comes in contact with the
road surface. Coverage of the tire tread circumference shall be from
at least 15° in front and to at least 75° to the rear of the vertical
centerline at each wheel measured from the center of the wheel
rotation.
Mud flaps just make up the difference between what you have got and
what they want..........Terry
Terry Skinner
253-686-2624
Roy. Washington
'76 GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105845 is a reply to message #105829] |
Sat, 13 November 2010 11:10  |
Terry Skinner
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Inside the wheel well where the water thrown up hits the wheel well.
Tried to take a picture but just too dark. Mine is 8" wide and 3 feet
long. Held up with contact cement and half a dozen screws with fender
washers.
Up here we don't have rocks, just rain. Days of rain. Dark dismal
rain. Out on I-5 I see all those eight and a half foot wide motor
homes with the Esclade as a towd headed down to San Diego for the
winter. My brother called from Phoenix to say they are in winter mode.
74 days with 47 at night.
You know, I am only one Lottery ticket away from retiring........Terry
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
> Terry,
> I removed the huge mudflap that was on the SOB and installed the hoakie
> hula skirt you mentioned. I never considered stopping the spray, it was
> those rocks that made it past the hard mud flap that were ruining the cars
> finish and chipping up the windshield. The hula skirt stops all the rocks
> from what I can see. I'm not sure how or where the I-O carpeting you refer
> to is installed. I've seen the whisker strips on the outside of the wheel
> wells on the UPS long haul trucks.
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A lot of the truck drivers here in the Northwest line the inside of
>> the wheel wells with indoor-outdoor carpeting or that stuff that looks
>> like plastic scratch pad. It really minimizes the spray that comes off
>> the tires. Less spray on your towd without that hoakie hula skirt that
>> some people attach under the rear bumper.
>>
>> As for mudflaps:
>> Washington State Fender Laws:
>> All wheels of a motor vehicle shall be equipped with fenders designed
>> to cover the entire tire tread width that comes in contact with the
>> road surface. Coverage of the tire tread circumference shall be from
>> at least 15° in front and to at least 75° to the rear of the vertical
>> centerline at each wheel measured from the center of the wheel
>> rotation.
>> Mud flaps just make up the difference between what you have got and
>> what they want..........Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Terry Skinner
>> 253-686-2624
>> Roy. Washington
>> '76 GMC
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> Sierra Vista, AZ
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Roy. Washington
'76 GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105873 is a reply to message #105845] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 07:47 |
Steven Ferguson
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Ihear you about the rain Terry.
Last spring, after GMCWS Auburn, we were going to head up to the PNW. A
friend was two weeks ahead of us and emailed his adventures every day. Man,
it was depressing. Their toes were starting to grow together. 6 solid
weeks of rain with no respite. I hate that, Nancy hates that, so we took a
hard right in Redding and never thought about it again. There must be a
good time of year along that coast that doesn't put such a demand on
windshield wipers.
Sooo, just glue and screw indoor/outdoor carpeting to the inner wheel well
surfaces. Seems to me the stuff would still drip down and become the dirt
laden mist that covers everything immediately behind you.
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Inside the wheel well where the water thrown up hits the wheel well.
> Tried to take a picture but just too dark. Mine is 8" wide and 3 feet
> long. Held up with contact cement and half a dozen screws with fender
> washers.
> Up here we don't have rocks, just rain. Days of rain. Dark dismal
> rain. Out on I-5 I see all those eight and a half foot wide motor
> homes with the Esclade as a towd headed down to San Diego for the
> winter. My brother called from Phoenix to say they are in winter mode.
> 74 days with 47 at night.
> You know, I am only one Lottery ticket away from retiring........Terry
>
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Terry,
> > I removed the huge mudflap that was on the SOB and installed the hoakie
> > hula skirt you mentioned. I never considered stopping the spray, it was
> > those rocks that made it past the hard mud flap that were ruining the
> cars
> > finish and chipping up the windshield. The hula skirt stops all the
> rocks
> > from what I can see. I'm not sure how or where the I-O carpeting you
> refer
> > to is installed. I've seen the whisker strips on the outside of the
> wheel
> > wells on the UPS long haul trucks.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A lot of the truck drivers here in the Northwest line the inside of
> >> the wheel wells with indoor-outdoor carpeting or that stuff that looks
> >> like plastic scratch pad. It really minimizes the spray that comes off
> >> the tires. Less spray on your towd without that hoakie hula skirt that
> >> some people attach under the rear bumper.
> >>
> >> As for mudflaps:
> >> Washington State Fender Laws:
> >> All wheels of a motor vehicle shall be equipped with fenders designed
> >> to cover the entire tire tread width that comes in contact with the
> >> road surface. Coverage of the tire tread circumference shall be from
> >> at least 15° in front and to at least 75° to the rear of the vertical
> >> centerline at each wheel measured from the center of the wheel
> >> rotation.
> >> Mud flaps just make up the difference between what you have got and
> >> what they want..........Terry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Terry Skinner
> >> 253-686-2624
> >> Roy. Washington
> >> '76 GMC
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Ferguson
> > Sierra Vista, AZ
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> Terry Skinner
> 253-686-2624
> Roy. Washington
> '76 GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105880 is a reply to message #105765] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 12:22 |
fred v
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if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK for general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105930 is a reply to message #105902] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 07:13 |
fred v
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| Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 18:48 |
Fred,
I'm confused!
Are you saying that the point equally distant from the center of each of the
two holes in the of the bottom front cross member is not the centerline of
the GMC?
Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of fred veenschoten
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:23 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK for
general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
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Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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yes. i haven't measured it myself as my coach is at the paint shop but this issue came up in a thread on Ken H. Cad. engine install. he reminded us that the engine is off set to the right. i've always noticed that when i jack up centered on those holes that one side was always lower than the other.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105933 is a reply to message #105930] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 07:38 |
k2gkk
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As I recall, most floor jacks have "some" tilting
or "wobble" that is built into the lifting point.
If the engine weight is off center to one side of
the coach centerline, that could easily explain
the uneven lifting of the front wheels.
In any event, I am waiting for my lifting pad to
arrive sometime this week!
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: fredntoni@cox.net
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 07:13:33 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
>
>
>
> > Robert Mueller wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 18:48
> > Fred,
> >
> > I'm confused!
> >
> > Are you saying that the point equally distant from the center of each of the
> > two holes in the of the bottom front cross member is not the centerline of
> > the GMC?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rob M.
> > USAussie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> > [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of fred veenschoten
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:23 PM
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
> >
> >
> > if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK for
> > general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
> >
> > --
> > Fred V
> > '77 Royale RB 455
> > P'cola, Fl
> >
> >
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> yes. i haven't measured it myself as my coach is at the paint shop but this issue came up in a thread on Ken H. Cad. engine install. he reminded us that the engine is off set to the right. i've always noticed that when i jack up centered on those holes that one side was always lower than the other.
>
> --
> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105934 is a reply to message #105933] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 07:51 |
Dennis S
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The original post was in Sept -- alignment related -- and KenH reported that the two front holes were not the center of the crossmember.. Go here to read the entire thread
http://goo.gl/K77XY
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org; fredntoni@cox.net; GMC Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
Sent: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
s I recall, most floor jacks have "some" tilting
r "wobble" that is built into the lifting point.
f the engine weight is off center to one side of
he coach centerline, that could easily explain
he uneven lifting of the front wheels.
In any event, I am waiting for my lifting pad to
rrive sometime this week!
* * * * * * * * * * *
D C "Mac" Macdonald *
> if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK for
> general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
>
> --
> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
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yes. i haven't measured it myself as my coach is at the paint shop but this
ssue came up in a thread on Ken H. Cad. engine install. he reminded us that the
ngine is off set to the right. i've always noticed that when i jack up centered
n those holes that one side was always lower than the other.
--
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105939 is a reply to message #105902] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 10:14 |
Ken Henderson
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Rob,
Remember: When we aligned my wheels we measured the centerline and dropped
the plumb bobs, only to find that the two engine bolt access holes in the #2
crossmember are NOT centered? Had to measure from the holes at the ends of
that member.
Ken H.
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Fred,
>
> I'm confused!
>
> Are you saying that the point equally distant from the center of each of
> the
> two holes in the of the bottom front cross member is not the centerline of
> the GMC?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of fred veenschoten
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
>
>
> if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK
> for
> general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
>
> --
> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd [message #105989 is a reply to message #105939] |
Mon, 15 November 2010 21:07 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
I remember measuring inwards from the large holes that the bolts for the
lower A-frames.
I remember that we determined that the center line in the bumper was the
centerline of the coach!
I don't remember noting that the two engine bolt hole access were not
centered! - SELECTIVE CRS!
Thanks,
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:14 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
Rob,
Remember: When we aligned my wheels we measured the centerline and dropped
the plumb bobs, only to find that the two engine bolt access holes in the #2
crossmember are NOT centered? Had to measure from the holes at the ends of
that member.
Ken H.
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Fred,
>
> I'm confused!
>
> Are you saying that the point equally distant from the center of each of
> the
> two holes in the of the bottom front cross member is not the centerline of
> the GMC?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of fred veenschoten
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] protect the towd
>
>
> if you use that pad you won't be jacking on center line of the coach. OK
> for
> general tire changing but not good for ride height adjustment.
>
> --
> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
>
>
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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