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[GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104799] Mon, 01 November 2010 19:45 Go to next message
GMC_LES is currently offline  GMC_LES   United States
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What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my coach so I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us. As a precautionary measure I would like to replace mine with new. I've easily found 12ga & smaller locally, but I have feeling that our coaches use atleast one link of a heavier gauge. Am I correct?

Les Burt
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104801 is a reply to message #104799] Mon, 01 November 2010 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Les Burt wrote:

> What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my coach so I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us. As a precautionary measure I would like to replace mine with new. I've easily found 12ga & smaller locally, but I have feeling that our coaches use atleast one link of a heavier gauge. Am I correct?
>
> Les Burt
> Sent from my iPhone

Hi Les

If you are talking about the fusible link that runs from the battery junction block to the horn relay, it is a 16 gauge.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104802 is a reply to message #104799] Mon, 01 November 2010 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Les,

About the 5th call out in the left margin of the chassis wiring diagrams is
"Fusible Link"; to the right of there in the diagram is the location and
identification of the fusible link: 16 g.

Ken H.


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my coach so
> I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us. As a precautionary
> measure I would like to replace mine with new. I've easily found 12ga &
> smaller locally, but I have feeling that our coaches use atleast one link of
> a heavier gauge. Am I correct?
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104806 is a reply to message #104802] Mon, 01 November 2010 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If anybody wants some for a spare (when it goes you are stopped dead) I bought a 10ft roll of 16g. Send me a private email and I can throw a foot in an envelope for you. I plan on keeping some for myself as a spare but I hope I never have to use 10ft of it.

Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104807 is a reply to message #104801] Mon, 01 November 2010 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not certain but I thought that I had noticed several fusible links on my coach, all looking like factory installed items at the ends of the multiple wires that connect to the isolator. I also believe that I saw one at the starter, but since it has been several months since I pulled my chassis from under the body, CRS may apply!

Les Burt
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On 2010-11-01, at 8:52 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Les Burt wrote:
>
>> What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my coach so I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us. As a precautionary measure I would like to replace mine with new. I've easily found 12ga & smaller locally, but I have feeling that our coaches use atleast one link of a heavier gauge. Am I correct?
>>
>> Les Burt
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Hi Les
>
> If you are talking about the fusible link that runs from the battery junction block to the horn relay, it is a 16 gauge.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104809 is a reply to message #104807] Mon, 01 November 2010 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am not certain but I thought that I had noticed several fusible
> links on my coach, all looking like factory installed items at the
> ends of the multiple wires that connect to the isolator. I also
> believe that I saw one at the starter, but since it has been several
> months since I pulled my chassis from under the body, CRS may apply!
>
> Les Burt
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2010-11-01, at 8:52 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Les Burt wrote:
>>
>>> What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my
>>> coach so I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us.
>>> As a precautionary measure I would like to replace mine with new.
>>> I've easily found 12ga & smaller locally, but I have feeling that
>>> our coaches use atleast one link of a heavier gauge. Am I correct?
>>>
>>> Les Burt

I don't think so.

Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #104810 is a reply to message #104806] Mon, 01 November 2010 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne,

I'd appreciate it if you could toss enough of the fusible link wire for my
two Avions's and John's Eleganza in an envelope and send it to:

Rob Mueller
c/o John Sharpe
19706 Caroling Oaks Court
Humble, TX 77346

Please let me know what it cost you so I can make a contribution.

Thanks,
Rob M.
USAussie


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If anybody wants some for a spare (when it goes you are stopped dead) I
bought a 10ft roll of 16g. Send me a private email and I can throw a foot
in an envelope for you. I plan on keeping some for myself as a spare but I
hope I never have to use 10ft of it.
--
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,

Big Blue Bus AKA Triple B, 78 Royale center kitchen,

Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105133 is a reply to message #104809] Fri, 05 November 2010 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a look at my GMC today and can't find a fusible link anywhere. The PO had rearranged the wiring somewhat resulting in a major mess that I plan to tidy up.

I now wonder where I got the idea that my coach had several fusible links? Damned CRS or CRAFT !!

Les Burt


On 2010-11-01, at 9:55 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not certain but I thought that I had noticed several fusible
>> links on my coach, all looking like factory installed items at the
>> ends of the multiple wires that connect to the isolator. I also
>> believe that I saw one at the starter, but since it has been several
>> months since I pulled my chassis from under the body, CRS may apply!
>>
>> Les Burt
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2010-11-01, at 8:52 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Les Burt wrote:
>>>
>>>> What gauge fusible links are used on our coaches? I'm not near my
>>>> coach so I have no way to check unless the parts manual tells us.
>>>> As a precautionary measure I would like to replace mine with new.
>>>> I've easily found 12ga & smaller locally, but I have feeling that
>>>> our coaches use atleast one link of a heavier gauge. Am I correct?
>>>>
>>>> Les Burt
>
> I don't think so.
>
> Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105137 is a reply to message #105133] Fri, 05 November 2010 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only one I found on the wiring diagram is shown here coming of the vehicle battery positive post on the firewall. It is the one at the 3 O'Clock position. It is about 9 to 10 inches long and terminates at the horn relay. This is the one that disabled my coach until I figured it out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Superglider/GMC%20Motorhome/P1010344.jpg

My fuse box has seen better days and has been cobbled together by the PO. I am thinking of finding a modern fuse box at the mens mall and seeing if I can change it over. I am also thinking about using fusible cartridges and separating the circuits. Kinda scary that everything for the coach goes through that one fusible link. Have a short in the horn and puff, no ignition, lights etc. I think it is time to upgrade to more modern electronics.


Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105151 is a reply to message #105137] Fri, 05 November 2010 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne,
I'm thinking of doing a similar upgrade when I tackle the wiring. Keep us updated on what you decide to do.

Les Burt
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On 2010-11-05, at 12:46 PM, Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@juno.com> wrote:

>
>
> The only one I found on the wiring diagram is shown here coming of the vehicle battery positive post on the firewall. It is the one at the 3 O'Clock position. It is about 9 to 10 inches long and terminates at the horn relay. This is the one that disabled my coach until I figured it out.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Superglider/GMC%20Motorhome/P1010344.jpg
>
> My fuse box has seen better days and has been cobbled together by the PO. I am thinking of finding a modern fuse box at the mens mall and seeing if I can change it over. I am also thinking about using fusible cartridges and separating the circuits. Kinda scary that everything for the coach goes through that one fusible link. Have a short in the horn and puff, no ignition, lights etc. I think it is time to upgrade to more modern electronics.
> --
> Wayne and Lisa,
> Bolton Landing, NY,
>
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>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105186 is a reply to message #104799] Fri, 05 November 2010 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I replaced my fusible link with a maxi fuse holdeer from NAPA and a 40 amp maxi fuse. I also carry a couple of 40 amp fuses and also a 50 amp for the worst case scenario.

Looks a lot better than that ratty old link.

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba
Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105249 is a reply to message #105186] Sat, 06 November 2010 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob, it may look good, but that was a BAD move. Someday,
your fuse will blow and live
you stranded by the side of the road. One of the main
reasons for fusible links is that
they are slow-blow devices. They can take an over current
condition for a longer amount
of time than a fuse can. There are temporary, transient
conditions that can cause current
flow in excess of your 40A fuse. A fusible link will allow
short term over current conditions,
a fuse will blow.

In low current (usually less than 5 A) there are special
slo-blo fuses made, unfortunately
they do not exist in higher current fuses.

I have know several GMC owners who did what you have done,
only to have the fuse blow,
They have all gone back to a fusible link.

On 11/5/2010 5:58 PM, Bob Horton wrote:
>
> I replaced my fusible link with a maxi fuse holdeer from NAPA and a 40 amp maxi fuse. I also carry a couple of 40 amp fuses and also a 50 amp for the worst case scenario.
>
> Looks a lot better than that ratty old link.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105329 is a reply to message #104799] Sun, 07 November 2010 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry

Not to worry. I also carry the old fusible link along. I doubt that I have ever thrown anything away in 75 years.


Terry wrote

"Bob, it may look good, but that was a BAD move. Someday,
your fuse will blow and leave you stranded by the side of the road."

Bob Horton
Brandon, Manitoba
Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105330 is a reply to message #105329] Sun, 07 November 2010 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you worry about the link ---put both in --- but the link is all you need

Gene

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On Nov 7, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Bob Horton <bobsgmc@mts.net> wrote:

>
>
> Terry
>
> Not to worry. I also carry the old fusible link along. I doubt that I have ever thrown anything away in 75 years.
>
>
> Terry wrote
>
> "Bob, it may look good, but that was a BAD move. Someday,
> your fuse will blow and leave you stranded by the side of the road."
>
> Bob Horton
> Brandon, Manitoba
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105360 is a reply to message #105330] Sun, 07 November 2010 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would not use both at the same time - I believe that would cut the
current through each by 1/2 - if the total circuit draw is 40 amps then
each would see 20 amps (raising the fused value to 80 amps).
or is there something wrong with my spice calculations?
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On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:27 -0800, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:

> If you worry about the link ---put both in --- but the link is all you need
>
> Gene
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> Not sent from my ipad
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Re: [GMCnet] Fusible links [message #105369 is a reply to message #105360] Sun, 07 November 2010 15:15 Go to previous message
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nah


they are a direct short any way, so if you get enough current to blow a
piece of wire, all hell is going on and everything will blow any way ;>)


gene



On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM, mills <mills@bmi.net> wrote:

> I would not use both at the same time - I believe that would cut the
> current through each by 1/2 - if the total circuit draw is 40 amps then
> each would see 20 amps (raising the fused value to 80 amps).
> or is there something wrong with my spice calculations?
> --
> Jim Mills
> 137 N 23 Ave
> Greeley, CO 80631
> 307 871 7403
>
> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 07:27 -0800, mr.erfisher@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > If you worry about the link ---put both in --- but the link is all you
> need
> >
> > Gene
> >
> > Not sent from my ipad
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