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| Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104286] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 13:14  |
Dennis S
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With the discussion on the house wiring and mention of fuse blocks -- what is the appropriate replacement for the old fuse panel?
Is the Blue Sea brand good?
http://goo.gl/sffi
Thanks,
Dennis
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104290 is a reply to message #104289] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 14:19  |
midlf
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| mcolie wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 14:13 |
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I have used Blue Sea fuse panels in a number of power upgrades on boats. I have never had quality issues. The prices are quite variable. Shop the web for what ever model you choose.
(Hint: Buy the 12 circuit with ground and you will not regret it. )
Matt
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OK - I'll bite. Why one with a ground vs one without? I can't think of a reason why a fuse block with ground is needed on a GMC. What am I not aware of?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104291 is a reply to message #104290] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 14:35 |
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Matt Colie
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| midlf wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 15:19 |
| mcolie wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 14:13 |
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I have used Blue Sea fuse panels in a number of power upgrades on boats. I have never had quality issues. The prices are quite variable. Shop the web for what ever model you choose.
(Hint: Buy the 12 circuit with ground and you will not regret it. )
Matt
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OK - I'll bite. Why one with a ground vs one without? I can't think of a reason why a fuse block with ground is needed on a GMC. What am I not aware of?
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First off, it is only a few dollars more. (That will not be a big part of the end cost of the project and may save that much in working time.)
Though a GMC has much more access to a ground than a fiber glass hull, when you add anything, you need both. When you have to run power to the new item, it is just as easy to run a pair as a single conductor. When they get to the new location, you are done with pulling wire.
If you are installing something in the ends of the coach, or in the wooden parts of the interior, it can be a problem to get to a good ground unless you brought it with you the first time.
And, if/when thing get strange having solid DC there makes things much easier to diagnose.
My coach is a 23' '73. The original panel is still where it was installed. The new panel is behind the glove compartment and it supplies: the new stereo, The CB, the cell phone repeater, 2 additional 12V mouseholes and something else that I have forgotten what is. I have plans for more. Always buy as much capacity as you can manage.
Matt <www.southpointechandler.com>
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104306 is a reply to message #104289] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 16:29 |
Dennis S
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Matt,
Thanks for the feedback.
Dennis
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC 23 ft PD
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fuse block for house 12v
Dennis S wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 14:14
With the discussion on the house wiring and mention of fuse blocks -- what is
he appropriate replacement for the old fuse panel?
Is the Blue Sea brand good?
http://goo.gl/sffi
Thanks,
Dennis
Dennis,
I have used Blue Sea fuse panels in a number of power upgrades on boats. I have
ever had quality issues. The prices are quite variable. Shop the web for what
ver model you choose.
Hint: Buy the 12 circuit with ground and you will not regret it. )
Matt
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att & Mary Colie
73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
E Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104309 is a reply to message #104307] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 16:51 |
Dennis S
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Rob,
Thanks for the option.. My existing fuse block is fine -- but I have on hand a PD to replace my original buzz box (which also operates fine) and thought I should consider a complete redo of the house power supply and distribution,
The only additional power load I have planned is a macerator.
Dennis
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC 23 ft with all original wiring and no modifications.
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Allen <profmail@wildblue.net>
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Sent: Tue, Oct 26, 2010 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fuse block for house 12v
Dennis S wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 11:14
With the discussion on the house wiring and mention of fuse blocks -- what is
he appropriate replacement for the old fuse panel?
Is the Blue Sea brand good?
http://goo.gl/sffi
Thanks,
Dennis
am not overly proud of this solution to the fuse block issue, but It did work
ut quite well and was very inexpensive. If you have just one bad one, it will
ork too.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10722&cat=3953
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ob Allen
ormer owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104314 is a reply to message #104312] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 18:10 |
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Use a breaker does the surge better
Gene
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> Dennis S wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 17:51
>> Rob,
>> Thanks for the option.. My existing fuse block is fine -- but I have on hand a PD to replace my original buzz box (which also operates fine) and thought I should consider a complete redo of the house power supply and distribution.
>> The only additional power load I have planned is a macerator.
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>> Dennis
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>> Dennis Sexton
>> 73 GMC 23 ft with all original wiring and no modifications.
>> Germantown, TN
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> Dennis,
> Replacing the Buzz Box is a great idea, but keep it around because it is a great 12V power supply.
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> The only problem with adding the macerator/pump, is that the starting current can be pretty huge. be ready to wire and fuse it for 30~40 amp.
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> Matt
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104339 is a reply to message #104286] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 21:36 |
GeorgeRud
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When I installed my PD, I also replaced the old fuse box with a 12 fuse panel, and installed it in a more convenient location (so I didn't have to get down to see the fuses). It's an easy conversion to do at the same time as the PD install, and gives you additional outlets if you need them in the future. I've already installed some additional 12 volt outlets, and have room for more circuits if I want them. I also got one that has the grounds as well, so it's easy to get a good ground connection for anything you may need.
I bought the panel from Waytek Wire, but they are available from a variety of sources.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104348 is a reply to message #104286] |
Tue, 26 October 2010 22:46 |
Craig Lechowicz
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Dennis,
I've used the 12 position with ground Blue Sea System one that you show. Seems like it was only about $35 when I got it from West Marine a couple of years ago, so they have apparently gotten quite a lot prouder of them. (West Marine is convenient, but not the cheapest date in town lately). Didn't search the web a lot, but Amazon has it for $46 w/ free shipping, so a little better.
<http://www.amazon.com/5026-Blade-Fuse-Block-Cover/dp/B001P6FTHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288150491&sr=8-1>
I just finally got it put in this summer, and I thought it was well built. One little hang up was the stock GMC terminal ends are too wide to fit between the terminal blocks, so you get to put new terminal ends on. I still have to stuff more wires in it when I do my headliner, but here's some facebook pictures to see how nice it can look installed . . .(don't need to be a member to see.)
<http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=197345&id=812886697>
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104376 is a reply to message #104348] |
Wed, 27 October 2010 09:17 |
Dennis S
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Craig,
Thank you..
But I can't access the photos -- asks for facebook login.
Dennis
| Craig Lechowicz wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 22:46 |
Dennis,
I've used the 12 position with ground Blue Sea System one that you show. Seems like it was only about $35 when I got it from West Marine a couple of years ago, so they have apparently gotten quite a lot prouder of them. (West Marine is convenient, but not the cheapest date in town lately). Didn't search the web a lot, but Amazon has it for $46 w/ free shipping, so a little better.
<http://www.amazon.com/5026-Blade-Fuse-Block-Cover/dp/B001P6FTHC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288150491&sr=8-1>
I just finally got it put in this summer, and I thought it was well built. One little hang up was the stock GMC terminal ends are too wide to fit between the terminal blocks, so you get to put new terminal ends on. I still have to stuff more wires in it when I do my headliner, but here's some facebook pictures to see how nice it can look installed . . .(don't need to be a member to see.)
<http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=197345&id=812886697>
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104377 is a reply to message #104339] |
Wed, 27 October 2010 09:19 |
Dennis S
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George,
Thank you -- I like the idea of locating it at a more convenient access height.
Dennis
| GeorgeRud wrote on Tue, 26 October 2010 21:36 |
When I installed my PD, I also replaced the old fuse box with a 12 fuse panel, and installed it in a more convenient location (so I didn't have to get down to see the fuses). It's an easy conversion to do at the same time as the PD install, and gives you additional outlets if you need them in the future. I've already installed some additional 12 volt outlets, and have room for more circuits if I want them. I also got one that has the grounds as well, so it's easy to get a good ground connection for anything you may need.
I bought the panel from Waytek Wire, but they are available from a variety of sources.
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104400 is a reply to message #104373] |
Wed, 27 October 2010 12:37 |
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| mcolie wrote on Wed, 27 October 2010 07:07/ |
Randy,
There is a problem with that fuse block - Only 6 circuits.
The original block has 8...
It also has no ground buss and no provision to store spare fuses.
I like the other better. My opinion only.
Matt
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The original is the one behind the glovebox, right? Those fuses still remain and this block supplements that. If the fuse block is fed by the PD unit which is grounded, why do you need a ground buss?
Spare fuses? Yeah, I'm real familiar with spare fuses! Lucky the camp stores seem to carry a few.
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104401 is a reply to message #104363] |
Wed, 27 October 2010 12:39 |
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I bought a "lot" of this style off of ebay fairly cheap. I think it was 2 14 fuse, 2 10 fuse and about 4 6 fuse units. All for something like $20. As it was a few years ago, I am fairly sure I have used most of them by now.
This style works ok for motorhomes (maybe not for boats) but they could be made a little better.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: Replacement fuse block for house 12v [message #104418 is a reply to message #104286] |
Wed, 27 October 2010 15:18 |
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Are we talking house power or automotive power? For my house system I installed a PD 4590 all in one pannel, has pleanty of room for expansion. And the panel fit in the stock location once I devized a mounting frame for it. Works great, and is a 90amp smartcharger/converter so have pleanty of juice to charge the house battery and feed all electric accessories...
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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